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Old 11-07-2003, 07:35 AM   #51
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Old 11-07-2003, 10:14 AM   #52
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Those who are about to defend us, we salute you!
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Old 11-07-2003, 12:35 PM   #53
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I had been trying to forget about Acacia but they just sent me another goddamn letter. I wish these people would just go away. I will dump every last one of the very FEW videos I do use on my sites before I pay them a nickle.
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Old 11-07-2003, 12:42 PM   #54
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luck has nothing to do with it.

Let the almighty Satan guide us through this.

Let us read the Litany to Satan from Baudelaire:

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O grandest of the Angels, and most wise,
O fallen God, fate-driven from the skies,
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.
O first of exiles who endurest wrong,
Yet growest, in thy hatred, still more strong,
Satan, at last take pity on our pain!

O subterranean King, omniscient,
Healer of man's immortal discontent,
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

To lepers and to outcasts thou dost show
That Passion is the Paradise below.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thou by thy mistress Death hast given to man
Hope, the imperishable courtesan.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thou givest to the Guilty their calm mien
Which damns the crowd around the guillotine.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thou knowest the corners of the jealous Earth
Where God has hidden jewels of great worth.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thou dost discover by mysterious signs
Where sleep the buried people of the mines.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thou stretchest forth a saving hand to keep
Such men as roam upon the roofs in sleep.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thy power can make the halting Drunkard's feet
Avoid the peril of the surging street.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thou, to console our helplessness, didst plot
The cunning use of powder and of shot.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Thy awful name is written as with pitch
On the unrelenting foreheads of the rich.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

In strange and hidden places thou dost move
Where women cry for torture in their love.
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

Father of those whom God's tempestuous ire
Has flung from Paradise with sword and fire,
Satan, at last take pity on our pain.

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Old 11-07-2003, 12:46 PM   #55
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I had been trying to forget about Acacia but they just sent me another goddamn letter. I wish these people would just go away. I will dump every last one of the very FEW videos I do use on my sites before I pay them a nickle.
Unfortunately you are working under the assumption that all you need to do is remove the video and that will be the end of it. That is an incorrect assumption. The fact is that even if you remove the video from your site they will still make you pay for the time that you had the video on the site. According to the patent laws you have been infringing since the first day you put those videos on your site whether you knew about the patent or not. Accordingly you will be required to pay and if you've received more than one letter I'd say you are not going to be able to bury your head in the sand and hope this goes away.
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Old 11-07-2003, 01:37 PM   #56
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Thanks to everyone for the support!

I must clarify that the IMPA is not actually going to court with Acacia and it is not be being sued or anything else. The Defense Group of companies that are actually being sued right now by Acacia are the ones actually going to court and fighting the case directlly. The IMPA can only help with research and community awareness.

As for today, I don't think much is going to happen that will be very earth shattering. The most important part of today is that it means that this this is finally getting on track to get before a judge. And that is good news in and of itself.

For a rousing speech though...

I would have to go with the "what wel do today will go down for an eternity/strength and honor speech from "Gladiator"..,
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Old 11-07-2003, 01:39 PM   #57
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anyone got anything?
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:03 PM   #58
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Unfortunately you are working under the assumption that all you need to do is remove the video and that will be the end of it. That is an incorrect assumption. The fact is that even if you remove the video from your site they will still make you pay for the time that you had the video on the site. According to the patent laws you have been infringing since the first day you put those videos on your site whether you knew about the patent or not. Accordingly you will be required to pay and if you've received more than one letter I'd say you are not going to be able to bury your head in the sand and hope this goes away.
I'm curious, though. How do they know when someone puts the videos up? If you take them down, how can they even prove that they were ever there to begin with? They might be able to sobpoena your host to hand over server logs, but what if your host just doesn't have them?

And let's say someone put videos up, and they receive an Acacia packet a week later so they removed them. Would they be liable for the entire year or just the week that they were up?

Very little Acacia does makes sense.
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:13 PM   #59
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oo bad we cant have someone sit in on the hearing and put a video online LOL ....
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:20 PM   #60
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:24 PM   #61
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I'm curious, though. How do they know when someone puts the videos up? If you take them down, how can they even prove that they were ever there to begin with? They might be able to sobpoena your host to hand over server logs, but what if your host just doesn't have them?

And let's say someone put videos up, and they receive an Acacia packet a week later so they removed them. Would they be liable for the entire year or just the week that they were up?

Very little Acacia does makes sense.
exactly in some areas, how do they prove what you made from video and charge you accordingly. Non sense
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Old 11-07-2003, 03:41 PM   #62
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I'm curious, though. How do they know when someone puts the videos up? If you take them down, how can they even prove that they were ever there to begin with? They might be able to sobpoena your host to hand over server logs, but what if your host just doesn't have them?

And let's say someone put videos up, and they receive an Acacia packet a week later so they removed them. Would they be liable for the entire year or just the week that they were up?

Very little Acacia does makes sense.
I'd rather not answer the first question here in case they don't know how yet but there is a way that anyone can see what your site looked like throughout it's history.

Also, I'm assuming that the idea here would be to take the videos down at such time that Acacia notified you that you were infringing. Of course, by the time they've sent you notice they've also surely made a screen shot of your site as it was the day they looked at it. Even if you've only gotten their 'fishing' form letter you have no way of knowing whether they've actually seen and recorded your site yet or not.

If it was Matrix who's database was accessed then in most cases we listed at least one website on the form that we filled out. Even if it was CE or someone else, in most cases they ask you to list at least one website that you own so it's likely that even in the case of those who have only gotten the form letter so far that Acacia knows at least one of your websites.

Of course if you registered your website domains using your actual information they can look up one and find them all. Might be a good idea to go modify your whois info.
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Old 11-07-2003, 04:32 PM   #63
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xbiz article on the defendants meeting with Acacia and the judge.


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Old 11-07-2003, 04:35 PM   #64
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im beggining to think after watching that xbiz interview with flynt and reading things like this....


"And while there is certainly no shortage of support for those companies that have chosen to go to bat for the sake of the entire industry, there is also no certainty that they will win after industry heavyweights Flynt Publications, Vivid Entertainment, and Wicked Interactive determined after a lengthy review period with patent attorneys that Acacia's patents were valid and strong enough to license and not resist. "


that they arent very intelligent people.
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xbiz article on the defendants meeting with Acacia and the judge.


http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=816

The meeting on Friday where the defendant's attorneys, the new judge and Acacia went better than how the article portrayed it.

Spike gave me the details on Friday evening, and the news is VERY, VERY good.

There is supposed to be some writeups on Monday, so I have been sworn to secrecy not to reveal any info.

So many people were asking me, so I figured i better post something here now...in anticipation of tomorrow.

I am ready to post my comments and commentary as soon as the official news is released.

Everyone seems to take the weekend off...for me, the internet never closes, so i have been waiting for what is a week in internet time for Monday to roll around to be able to share the news.


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Old 11-09-2003, 11:52 AM   #66
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didn't impa hire a publicist? i sure haven't seen anything worthy in the news, either pro homegrown or impa or con acacia. what's up with that? i've seen the magic a good publicist can do...
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Old 11-09-2003, 12:06 PM   #67
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Acacia does not even bother to research who they are sending letters to, a few weeks back I recieved a letter that was sent c/o one of my corps that was dissolved back in like febuary of this year. So it just goes to show they are out to try to ass rape everyone.
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