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DirtyDanza · 10-29-2003, 06:02 PM

on decent traffic here are my results....

I thought this was a great idea as well... now it has me scratching my head....

MetaMan · 10-29-2003, 06:04 PM

they r at 1:1000 for me, but i am dealing with large amounts of bulk traffic that arent filtered until the beginning of november, my gross payout for them was above all other sponsors for the month of october.

roscoe98 · 10-29-2003, 06:06 PM

I know our ratios are doing much better than that.

MetaMan · 10-29-2003, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by roscoe98
I know our ratios are doing much better than that.

everyone ratios are the same, paysite lack good design, good content, and new ideas.

Lensman · 10-29-2003, 06:08 PM

This brings up 2 questions.

1. How and where are you promoting it?

2. What are your normal converts with other sponsors?

3. (OK, I didn't say 3 above) 238 qualified hits is not quite enough to draw a conclusion yet. Here is my other account that normally is 1:1000 with other sponsors:

<IMG src="http://www.10dollarcash.com/stats/graphbyratio.php?data[]=4.74&data[]=4.07&data[]=3.61&data[]=3.61&data[]=3.55&data[]=3.17&data[]=2.52&data[]=2.12&label[]=10 Dollar Big Tits&label[]=10 Dollar Wives&label[]=10 Dollar Blowjobs&label[]=10 Dollar Sluts&label[]=10 Dollar Lesbians&label[]=10 Dollar Cheerleaders&label[]=10 Dollar Ebony&label[]=10 Dollar Public Nudity>

DirtyDanza · 10-29-2003, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
This brings up 2 questions.

1. How and where are you promoting it?

2. What are your normal converts with other sponsors?

3. (OK, I didn't say 3 above) 238 qualified hits is not quite enough to draw a conclusion yet. Here is my other account that normally is 1:1000 with other sponsors:

I am confused... what is a unique and what is a qualified?

Lensman · 10-29-2003, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS

I am confused... what is a unique and what is a qualified?

Qualified is when he clicks anything on the first page, that's what most large programs use for their ratios. 10DollarCash.com is different because it shows you all ratios, including raw and unique first page.

doober · 10-29-2003, 06:14 PM

qualified looks like second page hits....

You dont really expect to judge any sponsor on less then 1K of traffic split up between all those sites do you?

DirtyDanza · 10-29-2003, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober
qualified looks like second page hits....

You dont really expect to judge any sponsor on less then 1K of traffic split up between all those sites do you?

not judging.... just saying I was expecting better

BradShaw · 10-29-2003, 06:36 PM

If you were a surfer, horny, and jerking it. Would you join a $10 site, or a free or $3 trial site? Look at things from a horny surfers perspective and learn a lot. $10 deals are created for CB reasons. Lens and Pbucks wanted them to take off, but they did not.

BTW, we sent mailer today to a $10 site (I bitched my mailer guy out) can post some #'s tomorrow. I imagine conversions of those who clicked on $10 ad will be good, but overall $ will not be where it should be.

gornyhuy · 10-29-2003, 06:56 PM

I'm confused...
The big graph shows 1:250 best case
The table in Lensman's sig shows 1:40
The note says 1:100 means you need help to do better...

obviously your mileage may vary with ANY program, but I guess it would be very informative to know honestly what the overall average conversions have been on these $10 proggies to know if the experiment is working or not.

Newbie out.

Giorgio_Xo · 10-29-2003, 07:15 PM

I have been very happy with 10DollarCash, but results have come grinding to a halt the second half of the month.

My users have expressed that the banner mix hasn't had the draw. Kiki, Debbie, etc. at BangBrosOnline have the 'face' and a 'name'. The $10 banners have less of a 'hook'.

My results for primary sponsors have held steady except for TripleXCash which has dropped. I wish TripleXCash had a 3 day trial. I only have sold one free 30 minute trial. Everything else has been direct full sales.

Adult.com counts a qualified hit as someone who has pinged the sign-up page and not the front.

webgurl · 10-29-2003, 07:25 PM

very nice , that convinced me ... i am signing up now ! u have referal code ?

Platinum Dave · 10-29-2003, 07:27 PM

I think its time to try

Discount pass Bucks.com

This model converts

$10 sites

10-29-2003, 07:28 PM

dear lensman, why do you count qualified hits and not unique hits? dont most sponsors track unique hits? if you would do that with your program the conversions would be 1:500+

I do not use 10$ cash, might give it a shot, but this is just a question that is in the back of my head

GTS Mark · 10-29-2003, 07:56 PM

How can you even complain, you have sent almost no traffic to the sites. 1000 hits to a tour is nothing....

I send at LEAST 6-10,000 Uniques to the tour before I even look at dumping a sponsor. That is a much more fair assessment.

Don't dump on Lens and his program without sending him a fair amount of hits.

DH

DirtyDanza · 10-29-2003, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
How can you even complain, you have sent almost no traffic to the sites. 1000 hits to a tour is nothing....

I send at LEAST 6-10,000 Uniques to the tour before I even look at dumping a sponsor. That is a much more fair assessment.

Don't dump on Lens and his program without sending him a fair amount of hits.

DH

not dumping on lens... at all.... just thought it would do better... and if you say drop 6-10k on a sponcer then try me with that... you'll do better than I did with 10dollarcash.... althought I will not give up on it.....

MetaMan · 10-29-2003, 08:28 PM

do i really need to post my updated stats

Oracle Porn · 10-29-2003, 08:42 PM

MetaMan · 10-29-2003, 08:47 PM

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

dirtysouth · 10-29-2003, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

Damn that's alot of traffic.

maxjohan · 10-29-2003, 08:59 PM

thanks for reminding me!!, just checked my stats and saw a new sign up!!

btw, any chance that I can take a look around in the members area??

lil2rich4u2 · 10-29-2003, 09:09 PM

Totals: 1,095 959 233 0 N/A $0.00

im not complaining, i know its too early for that.

this is just some SE traffic, and some 404 i have been filtering to www.whoic.com

i wont give up yet, still working on tweaking my pages

Digipimp · 10-29-2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

I agree bro, they need much better content and if they had it then I would try my little AVS thing for making sales but the content they have right now which leads me to believe the inside of one of the sites might not be all that either, but then again it's PPS not rev share type so who cares I guess. But still I need better content.

freeadultcontent · 10-29-2003, 09:21 PM

My uniques to qualified suck, conversions are not bad though for the type of traffic. No complaints here.

Those stats do not represent the check signups over the last few days either. Been pushing them from late evening on 10-21 till now.

Mr Pheer · 10-29-2003, 09:53 PM

I'll sell 9dollarporn.com and the others that go with it pretty cheap

skillfull · 10-29-2003, 10:59 PM

i need to send them much traffic before saying anything good or bad about them

Lensman · 10-29-2003, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

Looks like the program converts better than the other programs you were using. We can help increase the c onversion rate by matching the ads to your traffic more, but you are doing things well already.

footsex · 10-30-2003, 12:29 AM

So far, so good! Gonna have to send some more traffic.

Brad-Wishing · 10-30-2003, 12:34 AM

Looking good!

We have some guys with very sweet SE traffic doing 1:22 :D

mailman · 10-30-2003, 12:37 AM

hummm looks intresting enough....

think i will try it out...

Cash · 10-30-2003, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by webgurl
very nice , that convinced me ... i am signing up now ! u have referal code ?

10dollarcash & Adult Platinum and
Discount Pass Bucks - $25/$10 membership for the surfer
Enjoy

johnbosh · 10-30-2003, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
Looking good!

We have some guys with very sweet SE traffic doing 1:22 :D

that's sweett

Ice · 10-30-2003, 02:40 AM

Converting great for me. The staff at adult.com is more then helpful to make your numbers better. Thanks Loryn for the help...I owe you a drink in vegas

Lensman · 10-30-2003, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by footsex

So far, so good! Gonna have to send some more traffic.

Looks good so far, send more traffic!

And we need to fix the [Date Range Here]

rabbit · 10-30-2003, 08:18 AM

i have to say i was also disappointed with 10$ cash. for all the hype, i was expecting killer conversions, but got none.

the surfer is charged more upfront- and we get paid less. it would make more sense to promote if the program would allow a 3 day trial for say 1$ and we would get 25$.

carbon

WiredGuy · 10-30-2003, 08:21 AM

Always send traffic to what does best for you. For some, the 10dollar programs are working best, for others free trials, free emails and even paid trials. Try them all and keep what works best.

WG

NickB. · 10-30-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Looks good so far, send more traffic!
And we need to fix the [Date Range Here]

Lensman can you have someone from your marketing department contact me? thanks

reynold · 10-30-2003, 08:26 AM

should have many more hits before you draw a conclusion

skillfull · 10-30-2003, 08:39 AM

10-30-2003, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull

too soon to tell

skillfull · 10-30-2003, 08:53 AM

yep, exactly what i told before in the thread

Lensman · 10-30-2003, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull
yep, exactly what i told before in the thread

Shoot me an email with how you're promoting it.

skillfull · 11-05-2003, 10:02 AM

i will try send a shitload of traffic and see what happening

CNN · 11-05-2003, 10:17 AM

hmm.. i think a real ratio is signups:unique

it's a great idea for paysite owners to show ration like this: signups:qual.

but i think this is a not right!

i'm using this program too and and have 1:114, not bad but not real

goodluck

milambur · 11-05-2003, 10:46 AM

Hmm... Lensman, my ratio really sucks, am at 1:12, can I get some help please!

Rich J. · 11-05-2003, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf
dear lensman, why do you count qualified hits and not unique hits? dont most sponsors track unique hits?

Actually, most per-signup sponsors count 2nd page uniques which is the same as our qualified. This has been said numerous times but people dont seem to be getting it so let me explain.

Normal sponsor:
1: Surfer clicks banner from your site.
2: Surfer hits sponsor site and are counted as 1 raw.
3: Surfer clicks on "next" or "join" they are now counted as a unique provided this is their first visit during that count period. If they hit the back button or close the window without clicking anything they are never counted as a unique.
4: They are presented with an exit and are counted once more as a raw but not as a unique unless they click through to the 2nd page of the sponsors site from the exit.

10 Dollar Cash:
1: Surfer clicks banner from your site.
2: Surfer hits 10 Dollar site and are counted as 1 raw and 1 unique provided this is their first visit during that count period. If they hit the back button or close the window without clicking anything you are still credited 1 raw and 1 unique.
3: Surfer clicks on "next" or "join" they are now counted as a QUALIFIED. If they hit the back button or close the window without clicking anything they are counted as a unique.
4: They are presented with an exit and are counted once more as a raw as well as another unique for each 10 Dollar site they click from our 1st tier exit window.

With our model it is theoretically possible for you to send us 1 surfer and have them show up as 10 or more uniques. Perhaps we are shooting ourselves in the foot by counting traffic this but we thought it would be nice to give WM's a true look at what goes on with their traffic once they send them to one of our sites.

Quote:

[i]I do not use 10$ cash, might give it a shot, but this is just a question that is in the back of my head

I hope that answers your question. If you havent tried the program out yet maybe now is a good time to give it a shot. Try not to worry so much about conversions and focus on ACTUAL REVENUE. I think you'll be pleasently suprised. Feel free to contact me if you have any more questions about the program. See sig. for contact info.

Rich J. · 11-05-2003, 12:51 PM

Good... looks like everyone's got it.

Kimmykim · 11-05-2003, 01:02 PM

Quite frankly the only one of those that might be worth judging from the initial stats is the Wives one. The rest hasn't gotten enough traffic to tell anything at the moment.

And for all of you talking about 3 bucks versus 10 bucks to a surfer, my personal opinion is that these 10 dollar programs are going to become way more important than you would ever guess.

Just a hunch.

10-29-2003, 06:02 PM	#1
DirtyDanza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: BP4L.... Las Vegas, Posts: 8,375	10 dollar cash 1/100? yeah right on decent traffic here are my results.... I thought this was a great idea as well... now it has me scratching my head.... __________________ Danza Bucks is back!!!

10-29-2003, 06:06 PM	#3
roscoe98 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 689	I know our ratios are doing much better than that. __________________ $500.00 a MONTH BONUS CASH! HOSTED GALLERIES! EXCLUSIVE CONTENT! 80% PAYOUT DAYS!

10-29-2003, 06:08 PM	#5
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	This brings up 2 questions. 1. How and where are you promoting it? 2. What are your normal converts with other sponsors? 3. (OK, I didn't say 3 above) 238 qualified hits is not quite enough to draw a conclusion yet. Here is my other account that normally is 1:1000 with other sponsors: <IMG src="http://www.10dollarcash.com/stats/graphbyratio.php?data[]=4.74&data[]=4.07&data[]=3.61&data[]=3.61&data[]=3.55&data[]=3.17&data[]=2.52&data[]=2.12&label[]=10 Dollar Big Tits&label[]=10 Dollar Wives&label[]=10 Dollar Blowjobs&label[]=10 Dollar Sluts&label[]=10 Dollar Lesbians&label[]=10 Dollar Cheerleaders&label[]=10 Dollar Ebony&label[]=10 Dollar Public Nudity> Last edited by Lensman; 10-29-2003 at 06:13 PM..

10-29-2003, 06:36 PM	#10
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	If you were a surfer, horny, and jerking it. Would you join a $10 site, or a free or $3 trial site? Look at things from a horny surfers perspective and learn a lot. $10 deals are created for CB reasons. Lens and Pbucks wanted them to take off, but they did not. BTW, we sent mailer today to a $10 site (I bitched my mailer guy out) can post some #'s tomorrow. I imagine conversions of those who clicked on $10 ad will be good, but overall $ will not be where it should be. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-29-2003, 06:56 PM	#11
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	I'm confused... The big graph shows 1:250 best case The table in Lensman's sig shows 1:40 The note says 1:100 means you need help to do better... obviously your mileage may vary with ANY program, but I guess it would be very informative to know honestly what the overall average conversions have been on these $10 proggies to know if the experiment is working or not. Newbie out. __________________ icq:159548293

10-29-2003, 06:04 PM	#2
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	they r at 1:1000 for me, but i am dealing with large amounts of bulk traffic that arent filtered until the beginning of november, my gross payout for them was above all other sponsors for the month of october.

10-29-2003, 06:14 PM	#8
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	qualified looks like second page hits.... You dont really expect to judge any sponsor on less then 1K of traffic split up between all those sites do you?

10-29-2003, 07:15 PM	#12
Giorgio_Xo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,263	I have been very happy with 10DollarCash, but results have come grinding to a halt the second half of the month. My users have expressed that the banner mix hasn't had the draw. Kiki, Debbie, etc. at BangBrosOnline have the 'face' and a 'name'. The $10 banners have less of a 'hook'. My results for primary sponsors have held steady except for TripleXCash which has dropped. I wish TripleXCash had a 3 day trial. I only have sold one free 30 minute trial. Everything else has been direct full sales. Adult.com counts a qualified hit as someone who has pinged the sign-up page and not the front. __________________ Make Levees, Not War

10-29-2003, 07:25 PM	#13
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	very nice , that convinced me ... i am signing up now ! u have referal code ?

10-29-2003, 07:27 PM	#14
Platinum Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,441	I think its time to try Discount pass Bucks.com This model converts $10 sites __________________ Check out Adult Rental - Only Pay Per Signup VOD!

10-29-2003, 07:28 PM	#15
buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	dear lensman, why do you count qualified hits and not unique hits? dont most sponsors track unique hits? if you would do that with your program the conversions would be 1:500+ I do not use 10$ cash, might give it a shot, but this is just a question that is in the back of my head

10-29-2003, 07:56 PM	#16
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	How can you even complain, you have sent almost no traffic to the sites. 1000 hits to a tour is nothing.... I send at LEAST 6-10,000 Uniques to the tour before I even look at dumping a sponsor. That is a much more fair assessment. Don't dump on Lens and his program without sending him a fair amount of hits. DH

10-29-2003, 08:28 PM	#18
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	do i really need to post my updated stats

10-29-2003, 08:42 PM	#19
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	__________________

10-29-2003, 08:47 PM	#20
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

10-29-2003, 08:59 PM	#22
maxjohan Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 7,219	thanks for reminding me!!, just checked my stats and saw a new sign up!! btw, any chance that I can take a look around in the members area?? __________________ I went from 100 to 313,000 satoshis in 2 days! Lots of daily freerolls... Last edited by maxjohan; 10-29-2003 at 09:02 PM..

10-29-2003, 09:09 PM	#23
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Totals: 1,095 959 233 0 N/A $0.00 im not complaining, i know its too early for that. this is just some SE traffic, and some 404 i have been filtering to www.whoic.com i wont give up yet, still working on tweaking my pages __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

10-29-2003, 09:21 PM	#25
freeadultcontent Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: "evitcepsrep ruoy egnahc" Posts: 9,976	My uniques to qualified suck, conversions are not bad though for the type of traffic. No complaints here. Those stats do not represent the check signups over the last few days either. Been pushing them from late evening on 10-21 till now. __________________ Exclusive Ethnic & Microniche Sites

10-29-2003, 09:53 PM	#26
Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,083	I'll sell 9dollarporn.com and the others that go with it pretty cheap

10-29-2003, 10:59 PM	#27
skillfull Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Quebec Calisse Posts: 4,716	i need to send them much traffic before saying anything good or bad about them __________________ mind at underdark dot cc SEO Analyst Thunder-Ball.net - Member

10-30-2003, 12:29 AM	#29
footsex Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY Posts: 803	So far, so good! Gonna have to send some more traffic.

10-30-2003, 12:34 AM	#30
Brad-Wishing Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,415	Looking good! We have some guys with very sweet SE traffic doing 1:22 :D __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

10-30-2003, 12:37 AM	#31
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	hummm looks intresting enough.... think i will try it out...

10-30-2003, 02:40 AM	#34
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	Converting great for me. The staff at adult.com is more then helpful to make your numbers better. Thanks Loryn for the help...I owe you a drink in vegas __________________ icq 1904905

10-30-2003, 08:18 AM	#36
rabbit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,124	i have to say i was also disappointed with 10$ cash. for all the hype, i was expecting killer conversions, but got none. the surfer is charged more upfront- and we get paid less. it would make more sense to promote if the program would allow a 3 day trial for say 1$ and we would get 25$. carbon __________________ Got a paysite? Get it reviewed by RabbitsReviews and TheBestPorn

10-30-2003, 08:21 AM	#37
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,509	Always send traffic to what does best for you. For some, the 10dollar programs are working best, for others free trials, free emails and even paid trials. Try them all and keep what works best. WG __________________ I play with Google.

10-30-2003, 08:26 AM	#39
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	should have many more hits before you draw a conclusion

10-30-2003, 08:39 AM	#40
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10-30-2003, 08:53 AM	#42
skillfull Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Quebec Calisse Posts: 4,716	yep, exactly what i told before in the thread __________________ mind at underdark dot cc SEO Analyst Thunder-Ball.net - Member

11-05-2003, 10:02 AM	#44
skillfull Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Quebec Calisse Posts: 4,716	i will try send a shitload of traffic and see what happening __________________ mind at underdark dot cc SEO Analyst Thunder-Ball.net - Member

11-05-2003, 10:17 AM	#45
CNN Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: ...on.....little......planet..... GFY Co-Administrator Posts: 352	hmm.. i think a real ratio is signups:unique it's a great idea for paysite owners to show ration like this: signups:qual. but i think this is a not right! i'm using this program too and and have 1:114, not bad but not real goodluck __________________ Abama mama

11-05-2003, 10:46 AM	#46
milambur Mainstream since 2010 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,327	Hmm... Lensman, my ratio really sucks, am at 1:12, can I get some help please! __________________ Alea iacta est

11-05-2003, 12:51 PM	#48
Rich J. Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: California Posts: 589	Good... looks like everyone's got it. __________________ Adult Web Marketing Specialist with 10 years of Industry Experience - CONTACT ME

11-05-2003, 01:02 PM	#49
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Quite frankly the only one of those that might be worth judging from the initial stats is the Wives one. The rest hasn't gotten enough traffic to tell anything at the moment. And for all of you talking about 3 bucks versus 10 bucks to a surfer, my personal opinion is that these 10 dollar programs are going to become way more important than you would ever guess. Just a hunch.