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DirtyDanza 10-29-2003 06:02 PM

10 dollar cash 1/100? yeah right
 
on decent traffic here are my results....

http://desertentertainment.net/10dol.jpg

I thought this was a great idea as well... now it has me scratching my head....

MetaMan 10-29-2003 06:04 PM

they r at 1:1000 for me, but i am dealing with large amounts of bulk traffic that arent filtered until the beginning of november, my gross payout for them was above all other sponsors for the month of october.

roscoe98 10-29-2003 06:06 PM

I know our ratios are doing much better than that.

:drinkup

MetaMan 10-29-2003 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by roscoe98
I know our ratios are doing much better than that.

:drinkup

everyone ratios are the same, paysite lack good design, good content, and new ideas.

Lensman 10-29-2003 06:08 PM

This brings up 2 questions.

1. How and where are you promoting it?

2. What are your normal converts with other sponsors?

3. (OK, I didn't say 3 above) 238 qualified hits is not quite enough to draw a conclusion yet. Here is my other account that normally is 1:1000 with other sponsors:

<IMG src="http://www.10dollarcash.com/stats/graphbyratio.php?data[]=4.74&data[]=4.07&data[]=3.61&data[]=3.61&data[]=3.55&data[]=3.17&data[]=2.52&data[]=2.12&label[]=10 Dollar Big Tits&label[]=10 Dollar Wives&label[]=10 Dollar Blowjobs&label[]=10 Dollar Sluts&label[]=10 Dollar Lesbians&label[]=10 Dollar Cheerleaders&label[]=10 Dollar Ebony&label[]=10 Dollar Public Nudity>

DirtyDanza 10-29-2003 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
This brings up 2 questions.

1. How and where are you promoting it?

2. What are your normal converts with other sponsors?

3. (OK, I didn't say 3 above) 238 qualified hits is not quite enough to draw a conclusion yet. Here is my other account that normally is 1:1000 with other sponsors:

http://www.10dollarcash.com/stats/gr...61&data&#91;]=

I am confused... what is a unique and what is a qualified?

Lensman 10-29-2003 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dirty_DS

I am confused... what is a unique and what is a qualified?

Qualified is when he clicks anything on the first page, that's what most large programs use for their ratios. 10DollarCash.com is different because it shows you all ratios, including raw and unique first page.

doober 10-29-2003 06:14 PM

qualified looks like second page hits....

You dont really expect to judge any sponsor on less then 1K of traffic split up between all those sites do you?

DirtyDanza 10-29-2003 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober
qualified looks like second page hits....

You dont really expect to judge any sponsor on less then 1K of traffic split up between all those sites do you?

not judging.... just saying I was expecting better

BradShaw 10-29-2003 06:36 PM

If you were a surfer, horny, and jerking it. Would you join a $10 site, or a free or $3 trial site? Look at things from a horny surfers perspective and learn a lot. $10 deals are created for CB reasons. Lens and Pbucks wanted them to take off, but they did not.

BTW, we sent mailer today to a $10 site (I bitched my mailer guy out) can post some #'s tomorrow. I imagine conversions of those who clicked on $10 ad will be good, but overall $ will not be where it should be.

gornyhuy 10-29-2003 06:56 PM

I'm confused...
The big graph shows 1:250 best case
The table in Lensman's sig shows 1:40
The note says 1:100 means you need help to do better...

obviously your mileage may vary with ANY program, but I guess it would be very informative to know honestly what the overall average conversions have been on these $10 proggies to know if the experiment is working or not.

Newbie out.

Giorgio_Xo 10-29-2003 07:15 PM

I have been very happy with 10DollarCash, but results have come grinding to a halt the second half of the month.

http://www.atomicjohn.com/images/10cash2.gif

My users have expressed that the banner mix hasn't had the draw. Kiki, Debbie, etc. at BangBrosOnline have the 'face' and a 'name'. The $10 banners have less of a 'hook'.

My results for primary sponsors have held steady except for TripleXCash which has dropped. I wish TripleXCash had a 3 day trial. I only have sold one free 30 minute trial. Everything else has been direct full sales.

Adult.com counts a qualified hit as someone who has pinged the sign-up page and not the front.

webgurl 10-29-2003 07:25 PM

very nice , that convinced me ... i am signing up now ! u have referal code ?

Platinum Dave 10-29-2003 07:27 PM

I think its time to try

Discount pass Bucks.com

This model converts

$10 sites

buddyjuf 10-29-2003 07:28 PM

dear lensman, why do you count qualified hits and not unique hits? dont most sponsors track unique hits? if you would do that with your program the conversions would be 1:500+

I do not use 10$ cash, might give it a shot, but this is just a question that is in the back of my head

GTS Mark 10-29-2003 07:56 PM

How can you even complain, you have sent almost no traffic to the sites. 1000 hits to a tour is nothing....

I send at LEAST 6-10,000 Uniques to the tour before I even look at dumping a sponsor. That is a much more fair assessment.

Don't dump on Lens and his program without sending him a fair amount of hits.

DH

DirtyDanza 10-29-2003 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
How can you even complain, you have sent almost no traffic to the sites. 1000 hits to a tour is nothing....

I send at LEAST 6-10,000 Uniques to the tour before I even look at dumping a sponsor. That is a much more fair assessment.

Don't dump on Lens and his program without sending him a fair amount of hits.

DH

not dumping on lens... at all.... just thought it would do better... and if you say drop 6-10k on a sponcer then try me with that... you'll do better than I did with 10dollarcash.... althought I will not give up on it.....

MetaMan 10-29-2003 08:28 PM

do i really need to post my updated stats :1orglaugh

Oracle Porn 10-29-2003 08:42 PM

http://www.oracleporn.com/10.jpg

MetaMan 10-29-2003 08:47 PM

http://66.28.242.241/~thumbs/10dollar.jpg

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

dirtysouth 10-29-2003 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan
http://66.28.242.241/~thumbs/10dollar.jpg

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

Damn that's alot of traffic. :glugglug

maxjohan 10-29-2003 08:59 PM

thanks for reminding me!!, just checked my stats and saw a new sign up!!

btw, any chance that I can take a look around in the members area??

:tongue:

lil2rich4u2 10-29-2003 09:09 PM

Totals: 1,095 959 233 0 N/A $0.00

im not complaining, i know its too early for that.

this is just some SE traffic, and some 404 i have been filtering to www.whoic.com

i wont give up yet, still working on tweaking my pages

:thumbsup

Digipimp 10-29-2003 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan
http://66.28.242.241/~thumbs/10dollar.jpg

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

I agree bro, they need much better content and if they had it then I would try my little AVS thing for making sales but the content they have right now which leads me to believe the inside of one of the sites might not be all that either, but then again it's PPS not rev share type so who cares I guess. But still I need better content.

freeadultcontent 10-29-2003 09:21 PM

http://www.free-adult-content.com/gfy/adult.jpg

My uniques to qualified suck, conversions are not bad though for the type of traffic. No complaints here.

Those stats do not represent the check signups over the last few days either. Been pushing them from late evening on 10-21 till now.

Mr Pheer 10-29-2003 09:53 PM

I'll sell 9dollarporn.com and the others that go with it pretty cheap :)

skillfull 10-29-2003 10:59 PM

i need to send them much traffic before saying anything good or bad about them

Lensman 10-29-2003 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MetaMan
http://66.28.242.241/~thumbs/10dollar.jpg

i stopped using them at the end of october i need better content to push them with, yes 1:1000 is what i am looking for, i sent them my bulk tgp traffic, turned out over 1k now they get the better stuff.

Looks like the program converts better than the other programs you were using. We can help increase the c onversion rate by matching the ads to your traffic more, but you are doing things well already.

footsex 10-30-2003 12:29 AM

http://www.bootfetishtgp.com/images/10cash


So far, so good! Gonna have to send some more traffic.

Brad-Wishing 10-30-2003 12:34 AM

Looking good!

We have some guys with very sweet SE traffic doing 1:22 :D

mailman 10-30-2003 12:37 AM

hummm looks intresting enough....


think i will try it out...

Cash 10-30-2003 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by webgurl
very nice , that convinced me ... i am signing up now ! u have referal code ?
10dollarcash & Adult Platinum and
Discount Pass Bucks - $25/$10 membership for the surfer
Enjoy :)

johnbosh 10-30-2003 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
Looking good!

We have some guys with very sweet SE traffic doing 1:22 :D

that's sweett

Ice 10-30-2003 02:40 AM

Converting great for me. The staff at adult.com is more then helpful to make your numbers better. Thanks Loryn for the help...I owe you a drink in vegas :thumbsup

Lensman 10-30-2003 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by footsex
http://www.bootfetishtgp.com/images/10cash


So far, so good! Gonna have to send some more traffic.

Looks good so far, send more traffic!

And we need to fix the [Date Range Here]

rabbit 10-30-2003 08:18 AM

i have to say i was also disappointed with 10$ cash. for all the hype, i was expecting killer conversions, but got none.

the surfer is charged more upfront- and we get paid less. it would make more sense to promote if the program would allow a 3 day trial for say 1$ and we would get 25$.

carbon

WiredGuy 10-30-2003 08:21 AM

Always send traffic to what does best for you. For some, the 10dollar programs are working best, for others free trials, free emails and even paid trials. Try them all and keep what works best.

WG

NickB. 10-30-2003 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman
Looks good so far, send more traffic!
And we need to fix the [Date Range Here]

Lensman can you have someone from your marketing department contact me? thanks :thumbsup

reynold 10-30-2003 08:26 AM

should have many more hits before you draw a conclusion

skillfull 10-30-2003 08:39 AM

http://www.pornoquebec.com/images/gfycontest/10.JPG

buddyjuf 10-30-2003 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull
http://www.pornoquebec.com/images/gfycontest/10.JPG

too soon to tell

skillfull 10-30-2003 08:53 AM

yep, exactly what i told before in the thread

Lensman 10-30-2003 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skillfull
yep, exactly what i told before in the thread
Shoot me an email with how you're promoting it.

skillfull 11-05-2003 10:02 AM

i will try send a shitload of traffic and see what happening

CNN 11-05-2003 10:17 AM

hmm.. i think a real ratio is signups:unique

it's a great idea for paysite owners to show ration like this: signups:qual.

but i think this is a not right!

i'm using this program too and and have 1:114, not bad but not real

goodluck

milambur 11-05-2003 10:46 AM

Hmm... Lensman, my ratio really sucks, am at 1:12, can I get some help please! :helpme















:1orglaugh

Rich J. 11-05-2003 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bdjuf
dear lensman, why do you count qualified hits and not unique hits? dont most sponsors track unique hits?
Actually, most per-signup sponsors count 2nd page uniques which is the same as our qualified. This has been said numerous times but people dont seem to be getting it so let me explain.

Normal sponsor:
1: Surfer clicks banner from your site.
2: Surfer hits sponsor site and are counted as 1 raw.
3: Surfer clicks on "next" or "join" they are now counted as a unique provided this is their first visit during that count period. If they hit the back button or close the window without clicking anything they are never counted as a unique.
4: They are presented with an exit and are counted once more as a raw but not as a unique unless they click through to the 2nd page of the sponsors site from the exit.

10 Dollar Cash:
1: Surfer clicks banner from your site.
2: Surfer hits 10 Dollar site and are counted as 1 raw and 1 unique provided this is their first visit during that count period. If they hit the back button or close the window without clicking anything you are still credited 1 raw and 1 unique.
3: Surfer clicks on "next" or "join" they are now counted as a QUALIFIED. If they hit the back button or close the window without clicking anything they are counted as a unique.
4: They are presented with an exit and are counted once more as a raw as well as another unique for each 10 Dollar site they click from our 1st tier exit window.

With our model it is theoretically possible for you to send us 1 surfer and have them show up as 10 or more uniques. Perhaps we are shooting ourselves in the foot by counting traffic this but we thought it would be nice to give WM's a true look at what goes on with their traffic once they send them to one of our sites.


Quote:

[i]I do not use 10$ cash, might give it a shot, but this is just a question that is in the back of my head
I hope that answers your question. If you havent tried the program out yet maybe now is a good time to give it a shot. Try not to worry so much about conversions and focus on ACTUAL REVENUE. I think you'll be pleasently suprised. Feel free to contact me if you have any more questions about the program. See sig. for contact info.

Rich J. 11-05-2003 12:51 PM

Good... looks like everyone's got it. :glugglug

Kimmykim 11-05-2003 01:02 PM

Quite frankly the only one of those that might be worth judging from the initial stats is the Wives one. The rest hasn't gotten enough traffic to tell anything at the moment.

And for all of you talking about 3 bucks versus 10 bucks to a surfer, my personal opinion is that these 10 dollar programs are going to become way more important than you would ever guess.

Just a hunch.


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