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Old 11-05-2003, 12:50 PM   #1
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Cheating/Shaving --- PROOF

I find it amusing when someone gets canned from a sponsor for cheating the sponsor refuses to let him know what he did to cheat. They say it will help the cheater find better ways to cheat. I find that to be complete bullshit IMHO.

But when an affiliate accuses a sponsor of shaving, those same people will demand for proof. Even when you show it, they deny the fact. Well fuck that, you're just helping sponsors find a better way to shave, right?

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Old 11-05-2003, 12:51 PM   #2
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that is why sponsors love spammers behind closed doors
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Old 11-05-2003, 01:34 PM   #3
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I find it amusing when someone gets canned from a sponsor for cheating the sponsor refuses to let him know what he did to cheat. They say it will help the cheater find better ways to cheat. I find that to be complete bullshit IMHO.
Normal traffic to a website statistically behaves certain ways. The easiest way to detect cheaters is to look for abnormal patterns in their traffic.

For example if you offer sample movies on the outside of your site, on average "X" percentage of visitors will view the movies. A normal cheater will have a hitbot faking hits to the click counting script but probably won't go to the trouble to fake the video loads. So if you know that say 28% of your visitors on average view your sample movies, but only 1% of the visitors from the potential cheater viewed the samples there's a good chance there's something fishy. That alone may not be enough to convince the sponse the guy is a cheater but it is a start. A good sponsor won't have just one test, they'll have dozens. If they start telling the cheaters, well we caught you because your hitbot wasn't loading our sample videos, that cheater will be back in the program with new name and a smarter hit bot.

Basically it comes down to the golden rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.
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Old 11-05-2003, 01:37 PM   #4
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I find it amusing when someone gets canned from a sponsor for cheating the sponsor refuses to let him know what he did to cheat. They say it will help the cheater find better ways to cheat. I find that to be complete bullshit IMHO.

But when an affiliate accuses a sponsor of shaving, those same people will demand for proof. Even when you show it, they deny the fact. Well fuck that, you're just helping sponsors find a better way to shave, right?

yup. pretty shitty situation.
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Old 11-05-2003, 01:39 PM   #5
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my dog's breath smells like cheap processed chicken drumsticks
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Old 11-05-2003, 05:42 PM   #6
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this is the post that will start the deciline of this thread
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