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Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 12:41 PM

I need your expertise!

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...=ST&f=1&t=6781

wargames · 11-04-2003, 12:43 PM

how much is gonna cost you ?

Floridiot · 11-04-2003, 12:44 PM

I would think latin based would work better down south florida

xdcdave · 11-04-2003, 12:50 PM

I thought Boneprone was in the Pacific Northwest?

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by xdcdave
I thought Boneprone was in the Pacific Northwest?

yes, b ut he is the on ly GFYer I know who has restaurant expereince

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wargames
how much is gonna cost you ?

around 1/2 a mil

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 01:09 PM

Serge...

I think its a great idea man..
Anything you can do to diverse your business is good. However since you are retired from porn it wouldn't really be a diversement for you per say, more of a project to keep ya busy.

I always recommend to webmasters to diverse their business and not just have all your porn profits re-cycled back into your porn biz model.

Open restaurants, clubs, start some kind of promotion, something just to get some large revenue from another source. For me its been owning part of a restaurant, and trying to help promote mixed martial arts fighters. I used to think gambling was part of my biz diversity but im now starting to think that is more of a cancer than anything. I dont see how the made men in the movies manage that shit without getting burned.

The restaurant and club biz is and can be very lucrative when you know what you are doing.
Knowing you, im sure you would be able to adapt and have a feel for things very quick and do quite well.

Im not familiar with the Russian Culture Market down in Florida, but I assume if you are thinking about it, it must be pretty hot! I have friends here in Portland that own ?Greek? restaurants and clubs, one of which is the more popular clubs in town.

The key is to not just market this to Russians, but to the open public. And of course the Russian Culture being the overall theme, and the core heart of the club Russian people. Ive seen to many ?culture? oriented themed resturants and clubs go down the tubes for isolating them so tightly into this niche. Unless you are the only Russian club in town, and there are a shitload of Russians looking for a club to go to, you have to be really careful. You?re a smart guy, im sure you?ve studied the dynamics already and dont need me.

I don't own a club or own any shares in one, but I do know quite well some club owners here in Portland.
Just like our porn industry there are some who do very well, and some who really struggle. Theme it around a culture, but Id be careful isolating it to one. Ive seen too many Greek style clubs and restaurants fail by doing this, and seen one in particular really rise to the top just by marketing things a bit different to all cultures..

Good luck man. And keep us posted.

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 01:12 PM

I was taking to my bud Joey "the Man" here at gfy who owns a few large TGPs that do very well and he is doing this diversement as well.

Last I heard he was looking at buying a Samari Sam franchise.
That would be a great fucking idea.

The franchise fees would be high, but for a first timer going the route of a franchise would be the way to go. They kinda pave the path for you..

For me, my Cousin (exxxotica's brother) was already in the resturant biz big time, and parterning with him was a no brainer.

We scoped a market, a niche , planted up next to a walmart and the rest has become a 70k a month dream come true.

Bex · 11-04-2003, 01:16 PM

Sounds cool. As BP said, it is always a very good idea to diversify.

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 01:16 PM

Serge. I would reconmned trying to partner up with someone who really knows the biz. I assume you already have someone in mind. There is sooooo much to learn, andhaving a anchor man to show the way is quite important.

Its tough to go into somethin like this on your own.
If not for financial reasons, for management reasons and experience.

For Joey with a Franchise it solves this problem, and for me my cousin filled that void for me.

But I dont know too many Russian club franchises!
So be sure you take someone aboard who really knows what he is doing. SOmeone you trust.

Family is always best.

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 01:25 PM

One of the misconceptions here at GFY many people here have of my resturant is that it is some 5 star fine dining Valet style classy resturant..

IT IS NOT... Its a Mongolian Grill. We share a 3 block area with Walmart and Target!

Its a Mongolian Grill! Markets to Blue Collar hard workin people who like to eat. IT's concept and mission is to make money. And it does. People pay, come in eat, and they are gone. And this happens in bulk. You want people in fast and out fast and a line out the door. That was our mission statement theme.

One mistake many people who want to start a club or resturant do is try to make something too fancy. A resturant of the stars. They hope the biz will make them look important or rise thier status level.. You go into it thinking like that you will fail.

Its fine to create something high class, but I see too many people get caught up in that. Making things look to fancy, marketing to the upper tear of the population hoping to become an indvidual within that upper class community. Missing out on the true overall goal and that is to make money and not to impress people.

You cant think like that. You main focus has to be market share. What will get the most people in the door..

Think of ways to get or capture a market share that already exists in bulk.

Wiseman · 11-04-2003, 01:27 PM

BoneProne hit me up on ICQ would you Friend!

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by boneprone
Serge...

Good luck man. And keep us posted.

Bone, thanks! I have a meeting with a woman who runs this type of Club in NJ, after selling one in Brooklyn and I'm sure I'll be asking more questions as this venture comes along...nice to know that one can find help on our boards REGARDLESS if it's related to porn or not...

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Serge. I would reconmned trying to partner up with someone who really knows the biz. I assume you already have someone in mind. There is sooooo much to learn, andhaving a anchor man to show the way is quite important.

.

yeap, another good advice...I have a woman with experience to actually run it...I'd NEVER go into it on my own...

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
One of the misconceptions here at GFY many people here have of my resturant is that it is some 5 star fine dining Valet style classy resturant..

IT IS NOT... Its a Mongolian Grill. We share a 3 block area with Walmart and Target!

Its a Mongolian Grill! Markets to Blue Collar hard workin people who like to eat. IT's concept and mission is to make money. And it does. People pay, come in eat, and they are gone. And this happens in bulk. You want people in fast and out fast and a line out the door. That was our mission statement theme.

One mistake many people who want to start a club or resturant do is try to make something too fancy. A resturant of the stars. They hope the biz will make them look important or rise thier status level.. You go into it thinking like that you will fail.

Its fine to create something high class, but I see too many people get caught up in that. Making things look to fancy, marketing to the upper tear of the population hoping to become an indvidual within that upper class community. Missing out on the true overall goal and that is to make money and not to impress people.

You cant think like that. You main focus has to be market share. What will get the most people in the door..

Think of ways to get or capture a market share that already exists in bulk.

another excelelnt observation which can be summed up with an old:
"Who sells to the masses, eats with the classes"
;-))))

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 02:02 PM

Sounds like youve given this all a lot of tought..

Let us know how it goes.
Its an exciting time.

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Sounds like youve given this all a lot of tought..

Let us know how it goes.
Its an exciting time.

I'll keep everybody informed....I count on webmasters parties during Miami Internextr shows
;-)))

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

I'll keep everybody informed....I count on webmasters parties during Miami Internextr shows
;-)))

I want a VIP pass for that.

You can teach me Russian later!

brand0n · 11-04-2003, 03:19 PM

fuck you serge you russian peace of shit, you are 2 old.. get out while the getting is good

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brand0n
fuck you serge you russian peace of shit, you are 2 old.. get out while the getting is good

get out of what?

testuser · 11-04-2003, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

get out of what?

Dude, you got to pick up your phone!

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by testuser

Dude, you got to pick up your phone!

my phone?

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:31 PM

Oh Shit!
Yes My phone!

Jer · 11-04-2003, 03:35 PM

I like this thread. Very nice.

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
I like this thread. Very nice.

makes you hungry?

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

I want a VIP pass for that.

You can teach me Russian later!

the lessons have begun already
;-)))

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

makes you hungry?

oh yeah...
;-))

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:41 PM

Is that a Jewish book, and A Russian girl?

Serge_Oprano · 11-04-2003, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Is that a Jewish book, and A Russian girl?

no, it's a Russian Magazine and Jewish girl
;-))))

don't you see her moustsches?????
;-))))

Jer · 11-04-2003, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

makes you hungry?

Indeed, and at the same time it feeds my urge for "business culture".

testuser · 11-04-2003, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Oh Shit!
Yes My phone!

LOL, I guess you haven't found your phone yet.

Jer · 11-04-2003, 03:46 PM

Both business are all about recurring.

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by testuser

LOL, I guess you haven't found your phone yet.

LOL..
Looking for it..

Ill find it here in a bit im sure!

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
Both business are all about recurring.

exactly.

GTS Mark · 11-04-2003, 06:38 PM

Hey Bone, hit me up on ICQ when you have a chance, I have been looking into Mongolian Franchises in Canada. Funny you never mentioned you had a mongoli restaurant or I would have moved down there and been a permanent fixture in your restaurant.

DH

boneprone · 11-04-2003, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
Hey Bone, hit me up on ICQ when you have a chance, I have been looking into Mongolian Franchises in Canada. Funny you never mentioned you had a mongoli restaurant or I would have moved down there and been a permanent fixture in your restaurant.

DH

Yeah man, my cousin who you know exxxotica has all but dropped out of the adult realm and jumped into our resturant and focused on fighting and training for our fight promotion.

Anytime you come by Eugene let me know, we can clean house and get some grub!

testuser · 11-04-2003, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone

LOL..
Looking for it..

Ill find it here in a bit im sure!

lol, oh well. Give me a shout whenever, I got your shit done pretty much.

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boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Serge... I think its a great idea man.. Anything you can do to diverse your business is good. However since you are retired from porn it wouldn't really be a diversement for you per say, more of a project to keep ya busy. I always recommend to webmasters to diverse their business and not just have all your porn profits re-cycled back into your porn biz model. Open restaurants, clubs, start some kind of promotion, something just to get some large revenue from another source. For me its been owning part of a restaurant, and trying to help promote mixed martial arts fighters. I used to think gambling was part of my biz diversity but im now starting to think that is more of a cancer than anything. I dont see how the made men in the movies manage that shit without getting burned. The restaurant and club biz is and can be very lucrative when you know what you are doing. Knowing you, im sure you would be able to adapt and have a feel for things very quick and do quite well. Im not familiar with the Russian Culture Market down in Florida, but I assume if you are thinking about it, it must be pretty hot! I have friends here in Portland that own ?Greek? restaurants and clubs, one of which is the more popular clubs in town. The key is to not just market this to Russians, but to the open public. And of course the Russian Culture being the overall theme, and the core heart of the club Russian people. Ive seen to many ?culture? oriented themed resturants and clubs go down the tubes for isolating them so tightly into this niche. Unless you are the only Russian club in town, and there are a shitload of Russians looking for a club to go to, you have to be really careful. You?re a smart guy, im sure you?ve studied the dynamics already and dont need me. I don't own a club or own any shares in one, but I do know quite well some club owners here in Portland. Just like our porn industry there are some who do very well, and some who really struggle. Theme it around a culture, but Id be careful isolating it to one. Ive seen too many Greek style clubs and restaurants fail by doing this, and seen one in particular really rise to the top just by marketing things a bit different to all cultures.. Good luck man. And keep us posted. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

11-04-2003, 01:12 PM	#8
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	I was taking to my bud Joey "the Man" here at gfy who owns a few large TGPs that do very well and he is doing this diversement as well. Last I heard he was looking at buying a Samari Sam franchise. That would be a great fucking idea. The franchise fees would be high, but for a first timer going the route of a franchise would be the way to go. They kinda pave the path for you.. For me, my Cousin (exxxotica's brother) was already in the resturant biz big time, and parterning with him was a no brainer. We scoped a market, a niche , planted up next to a walmart and the rest has become a 70k a month dream come true. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	One of the misconceptions here at GFY many people here have of my resturant is that it is some 5 star fine dining Valet style classy resturant.. IT IS NOT... Its a Mongolian Grill. We share a 3 block area with Walmart and Target! Its a Mongolian Grill! Markets to Blue Collar hard workin people who like to eat. IT's concept and mission is to make money. And it does. People pay, come in eat, and they are gone. And this happens in bulk. You want people in fast and out fast and a line out the door. That was our mission statement theme. One mistake many people who want to start a club or resturant do is try to make something too fancy. A resturant of the stars. They hope the biz will make them look important or rise thier status level.. You go into it thinking like that you will fail. Its fine to create something high class, but I see too many people get caught up in that. Making things look to fancy, marketing to the upper tear of the population hoping to become an indvidual within that upper class community. Missing out on the true overall goal and that is to make money and not to impress people. You cant think like that. You main focus has to be market share. What will get the most people in the door.. Think of ways to get or capture a market share that already exists in bulk. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Sounds like youve given this all a lot of tought.. Let us know how it goes. Its an exciting time. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	Both business are all about recurring.

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GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Hey Bone, hit me up on ICQ when you have a chance, I have been looking into Mongolian Franchises in Canada. Funny you never mentioned you had a mongoli restaurant or I would have moved down there and been a permanent fixture in your restaurant. DH