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Old 11-01-2003, 08:30 PM   #1
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As much as I hated to do this I feel I have no choice. I have been walked over, cheated and lied to by too many webmasters since the summer to just let this slide under the rug. This is paysite #2 that has screwed me, webmaster #13. You just happened to have been the straw that broke the camel's back.

I figured I would just bite my tongue and not burn any bridges. However, as it is now I won't see that money for another 4 or 5 months anyways, so why bother protecting you. Too little too late. You have exactly 1 week to come up with the $500 owed for the work already done. Asking me to give you ideas on how to earn the money is a real slap in the fucking face. It is not up to me to figure out... I don't work for free, and showing you how to make the money to pay me is wasting my fucking time. I have been too fucking patient with this.

From personal problems to excuse after excuse there is no reason that money should not be paid to me. Turning it around saying "chris you knew we didn't have the money from the start" is a real knee jerker bud.

You needed to be reminded twice last night of the real facts. The facts being that I told you I needed min $250 a week to start working with you. You then proceeded to tell me that you were going to see about a loan. 2 days later you informed me you have the money and we agreed to start working together at that point. A week of mishaps delayed payments. I was understanding. People have personal problems that alot of the times interfere with business. But taking 30 minutes out of your day should not have been that hard.

At the end of it I was really starting to question the valididity of your claims. (I have been screwed before so I am cynical) I was thinking "what next, the money was stolen or whatnot?" Then I get "I had to give the money back"

Then you worry and proceed to tell me you don't want me to go on my merry way and leave you guys and want no hard feelings. Hard feelings?.. sweet fuck.. lets see. because of your unproffesionalism I almost got evicted, I had to ask my EX fiance to cover my bills until I can make back the money I lost from putitng my own sites aside to get ripped off by you. I now have a fucking ulcer worrying about this shit. I realize $500 is not really alot of money but on our verbal agreement that I would be covered for 2 months of expenses of $2000. I let my other shit slide (my own mistake right there). Now I am fucked. You had obligations and no excuse could change that. Sell your kidney, sell your body, I don't care. I put exactly 2 weeks of work into this and I expect to see that money by exactly 8:00AM on Saturday the 8th of November.

My whole point is this... If this was a brick and mortar biz and you told your workers and partners that you have money to pay them and proceeded to work with them, they would expect to get paid right? What makes this any different.

Anyways. enough is enough, Pay up fucker. And yes.. this is left on a BAD TERM. I will give you 30 seconds of free services. You really should remove those "bonus" prizes as you have no money to pay webmasters the prizes anyways.

Oh and Don't bother contacting me unless it is for payment address of bank account info to send payments and that contract we signed... is invalid. Always was. Because of HOW I signed it. So don't be yelling at me about any "cause no harm to" clauses.

I serioudly don't give a fuck if this post has dentrimental efects on your business. Your procrastination and unprofesional business ethics have already had dentrimental effects on my own well being. Oh, and don't get any funny ideas of sending your lawyer buddies in my city after me nor your "drug pimping" buddies. You have NO idea what would happen to you if I get some fucker with a baseball bat at my door. Remember how I said I know people in your area? SO don;t get any funny ideas bud



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To the rest of GFY. I appologize for airing dirty landry here, however I would hate to see another hard working and honnest webmaster get tangled in with this duo and if this affects anyone's trust in me and affects any possible future relations with webmasters and employments with webmaster programs I am willing to take that chance. But many many people in this biz know me, and know I have always been 100% upfront and work my ass off to please people.
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:34 PM   #2
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:36 PM   #3
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Hmmm very interesting, I shall hold back what I might have to say for a bit now.
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Could someone get me some cliffnotes so I can get the jist of the conflict?

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Old 11-01-2003, 08:46 PM   #8
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Hmmm...so Naughty Jenn owes you 500 bucks?
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:48 PM   #9
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who the fuck are you?
I would say someone that Naughty Jenn owes you 500 bucks 2.
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:50 PM   #11
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Old 11-01-2003, 08:53 PM   #12
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Could someone get me some cliffnotes so I can get the jist of the conflict?

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I'll sum it up.

Dude did a job for client. Client didn't pay. Dude is pissed.

Pass the popcorn please
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well since ya have to post i guess i will reply back since you cant communicate over icq or msn... Yes we agreed upon the 250 a week and yes i did want to keep on good terms since i dont belive in burning any bridges. But things fell through on my end for funds.. yes i take full responsibility.. and i also said right up front since the funds fell through if was open to any ideas because i know your in need of $.... now u seemed very understanding and i do appreciate it.. and sure jump on the boards i wont denie saying anything but to come out flat and think we are threatening you, but then on the same hand saying the contract isnt legit on your end because of how you signed it.. yet you still demand the $... very very odd.. anyways as i said to you, as soon as we have any funds to send your way you will be taken care of. anyways i have said from day 1 that i want this to be a friendship and a biz relationship.. guess that was my bad for trying to help ya out and i am sorry i put u in the position you are. but by any means this was not done on purpose

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It would cost you more than $500 to have me read that whole post.
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I'll sum it up.

Dude did a job for client. Client didn't pay. Dude is pissed.

Pass the popcorn please

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...the contract isnt legit on your end because of how you signed it..
1) WTF is that
2) You're having troubles coming up with 500 bones? I thought you were successful

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1) WTF is that
2) You're having troubles coming up with 500 bones? I thought you were successful

....Pass the popcorn....
noo im replying to what he said...
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Hmm i like both of these people


both are great people


I have yet to hear any webmasters complain that jenn isnt paying ....... only one designer .......


hmmm


i dunno
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Jenn ..quit giving away the booty cam on GFY and get your Booty on a pay per view cam network..work a few days and you will have the $$ to pay him. You gotta do what ya gotta do.
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both are great people


I have yet to hear any webmasters complain that jenn isnt paying ....... only one designer .......


hmmm


i dunno
i have full intent to pay... and always have and never doubted that.. unfortunitly the funds i was being given to pay him fell through and told him right away when that happend.. i have full intent to pay him, even after this post i still dont belive on burning bridges... sad it came to this point but i can also see his point
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I dont know if you know this, but your sites are down and so is your signature... It doesnt seem like it's your night tonight.


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yeah dealing with that aswell.. been in contact with my host and was told it was being worked on.. and no its not my night.. i was just about to head over to a friends house when i saw this message so imma stick around for a bit
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lol i just noticed that too, jenn you need some real hosting to make sales to pay off that 5 hunt

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1) WTF is that
2) You're having troubles coming up with 500 bones? I thought you were successful

....Pass the popcorn....
i guess shes not as successful as she said she was in earlier post

it's a shame what website whores will do to get webmasters to
push their shit.. lies all lies i tell you
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noo im replying to what he said...

Rather than bickering, you might check out your site. It is down on the east coast.
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Rather than bickering, you might check out your site. It is down on the east coast.
welcome to 5 minutes ago, if there is anything I can do in order to make your stay more comfortable, please let me know.
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#1 I did not say I was threatened by any means, And no. I was NOT threatened. was just covering bases. I know how things work. Dude gets what's comming to him, dude has friends in "low" places, dude that does the outting gets a visit. That's how life is. I guess I should have worded it better. I appologize for any confusion

#2 Jenn has always been honnest and upfront and willing to do whatever it takes to make affiliates and members happy. She is #1 in my book. It's AJ that was my beef. Jenn was not the one I was dealing with for the $$$. So don't hold Jenn responsible, cause I don't hold her specifically responsible
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Oh, and don't get any funny ideas of sending your lawyer buddies in my city after me nor your "drug pimping" buddies. You have NO idea what would happen to you if I get some fucker with a baseball bat at my door. Remember how I said I know people in your area? SO don;t get any funny ideas bud



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but on the real - jenn, what's up with 5bills girls??! give this chump his cash before he gets east la on you ass naah mean naah sayin'?
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welcome to 5 minutes ago, if there is anything I can do in order to make your stay more comfortable, please let me know.

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my fansites been down for two days *sniff**sniff*
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Jenn has always been honnest and upfront and willing to do whatever it takes to make affiliates and members happy. She is #1 in my book. It's AJ that was my beef. Jenn was not the one I was dealing with for the $$$. So don't hold Jenn responsible, cause I don't hold her specifically responsible
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and that contract we signed... is invalid. Always was. Because of HOW I signed it. So don't be yelling at me about any "cause no harm to" clauses.
Used the ol' disappearing ink trick? Jenn, maybe you should try that when you send him a check.
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I might have a solution ;-)

How about paying the designer like 50 dollars a week or something til you pay it off? Or whatever you could work out?

Just thinking outloud ...I try not to do that alot!
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Used the ol' disappearing ink trick? Jenn, maybe you should try that when you send him a check.

nah hes a great person and never had anything bad to say bout him.. he does amazing work and i do owe him the money... not sure what he ment by the contract thing but either way i know i owe him 500
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I might have a solution ;-)

How about paying the designer like 50 dollars a week or something til you pay it off? Or whatever you could work out?

Just thinking outloud ...I try not to do that alot!
i am going to be sending him whatever $ i have to fix this debt with him so he can go on his way
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welcome to 5 minutes ago, if there is anything I can do in order to make your stay more comfortable, please let me know.
Timing is everything. Sorry that I take commerical breaks from GFY.


So fill me in what does Jenn's boyfriend/husband do for a living that they cannot come up with $500 dollars?
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Jenn, I thought you were a camgirl as well as running your site? $500 is nothing to a camgirl, no?
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why are you stroking the poor bastard?
Guy did the work & monies were agreed upon, you cant hire people to do work for you if you

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b) "are wating" for cash from "somewhere" else
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Timing is everything. Sorry that I take commerical breaks from GFY.


So fill me in what does Jenn's boyfriend/husband do for a living that they cannot come up with $500 dollars?
Ive heard he was the onwer of a night club all way down to he was the bouncer of the night club..

i dun care what he does he is one lucky guy to have jenn :P
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#2 Jenn has always been honnest and upfront and willing to do whatever it takes to make affiliates and members happy. She is #1 in my book. It's AJ that was my beef. Jenn was not the one I was dealing with for the $$$. So don't hold Jenn responsible, cause I don't hold her specifically responsible
Exactly Jenn herself has always been sweet honest and upfront in my dealings with her as well. She knows what she needs to do and I think she'll do it.
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Jenn, I thought you were a camgirl as well as running your site? $500 is nothing to a camgirl, no?
havent done any cam stuff really since my site has been rolling... mostly just cam stuff in my members area...
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i am going to be sending him whatever $ i have to fix this debt with him so he can go on his way
Cool beaners! Hope you guys work it out! I know if it was me I would rather get a little at a time then none at all ;-) giggles Speaking of which my brother still owes me 20 bucks
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havent done any cam stuff really since my site has been rolling... mostly just cam stuff in my members area...
Well, if your site is "rolling", you have no problem paying out $500, $5,000 or even $10,000 for services rendered.. I'd suggest getting back on cam until your site is "rolling". $500 really isn't all that much.
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:31 PM   #48
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Originally posted by JupZChris


Ive heard he was the onwer of a night club all way down to he was the bouncer of the night club..

i dun care what he does he is one lucky guy to have jenn :P
he runs 4 clubs.. head bouncer at all of them and owned by the same guy... aj doesnt own them just is the head guy there
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:32 PM   #49
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Originally posted by Bambi911xx


Cool beaners! Hope you guys work it out! I know if it was me I would rather get a little at a time then none at all ;-) giggles Speaking of which my brother still owes me 20 bucks
Bambi can you ICQ me 173847572
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Old 11-01-2003, 09:32 PM   #50
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Originally posted by Pipecrew
I dont know if you know this, but your sites are down and so is your signature... It doesnt seem like it's your night tonight.


http://www.naughtyjenn.com/
SkankyJenn probably didn't pay her hosting bill either.
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