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mikesouth · 10-31-2003, 09:40 AM

AVN say on their site that scanning badges is how Acacia got info from Internext attendees.

What do you guys think?

Evil Chris · 10-31-2003, 09:42 AM

I'm not sure who AVN shares that kind of information with, and I never really thought about it until just now.

fatbaby · 10-31-2003, 09:43 AM

thats bullshit... I've never BEEN to an AVN sponsored event...

Big Fish 47 · 10-31-2003, 10:04 AM

Bullshit! I've never been to any event.

LeeNoga · 10-31-2003, 10:06 AM

We believe Acacia got their list from multiple sources, and the Internext attendees list was one of many surrendered, er stolen :-)))

WiredGuy · 10-31-2003, 11:06 AM

I can tell you I'm not within the Matrix Database nor the Internext database (sponsors always pay for me to attend using their info) and I'm still baffled where my info came from ...

WG

Evil Chris · 10-31-2003, 11:53 AM

I don't understand why they would need a list in the first place.
All they would have to do is visit half a dozen of these webmaster boards on a daily basis to figure it all out.

south-of-you · 10-31-2003, 12:48 PM

Matrix signed a deal for basically nothing because Acacia only wanted there list of webmasters.

AVN turned over their attendee list so that Acacia would get off of there back.

That is just what I heard of course.

Do you guys still go to the shows? You might re-think that business model if you do.

south-of-you · 10-31-2003, 12:53 PM

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Quote:

All they would have to do is visit half a dozen of these webmaster boards on a daily basis to figure it all out.

Of course they read these boards. And so does everyone else. If you look around, you will notice some of the larger players moving away from the boards. A lot of big companies have stopped posting all together. It may be great now to be the person that everyone knows but it won't be in the future.

I would know.

Acacia wouldn't lose trying to get the list from avn. They either turn it over or pay up.

Again, only guessing here. I really don't have a clue you know.

WiredGuy · 10-31-2003, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by south-of-you
Matrix signed a deal for basically nothing because Acacia only wanted there list of webmasters.

AVN turned over their attendee list so that Acacia would get off of there back.

That is just what I heard of course.

Do you guys still go to the shows? You might re-think that business model if you do.

See my post above...
WG

Jimmer · 10-31-2003, 01:28 PM

If they read the boards, why didn't I get one a long time ago?

Mike AI · 10-31-2003, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
We believe Acacia got their list from multiple sources, and the Internext attendees list was one of many surrendered, er stolen :-)))

Bingo!

basschick · 10-31-2003, 01:40 PM

that may be true, but acacia used a nickname of mine on our acacia letter isn't on any board... and we didn't use it with any sponsor, just a couple content providers.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil Chris
I don't understand why they would need a list in the first place.
All they would have to do is visit half a dozen of these webmaster boards on a daily basis to figure it all out.

FightThisPatent · 10-31-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I can tell you I'm not within the Matrix Database nor the Internext database (sponsors always pay for me to attend using their info) and I'm still baffled where my info came from ...

WG

Maybe someone that hired from within the adult industry as a consultant helped point their paralegals/salese people in the right directions.

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-31-2003, 01:45 PM

All things Acacia in this thread: FTP's Acacia FAQ:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=190214

Fight the Patent!

WiredGuy · 10-31-2003, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jimmer
If they read the boards, why didn't I get one a long time ago?

Want one?
WG

Badabing · 10-31-2003, 02:05 PM

I used different info on my Internext registration than what was on my letter. The info on my letter was the same info that I used to register with a certain content provider, as well as several sponsors, some of whom have also settled. Has anyone asked the content providers that settled whether they disclosed affiliate info??

Markit · 10-31-2003, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
We believe Acacia got their list from multiple sources, and the Internext attendees list was one of many surrendered, er stolen :-)))

triumph · 10-31-2003, 04:08 PM

I am sick of this shit, will all the people that gave out the webmaster infos to acacia please just say so, so we can fucking ban you guys from our day ro day activities.

Mr.Fiction · 10-31-2003, 06:23 PM

If the industry trade magazines or event organizers start turning on the industry they serve, that's about as fucked as it gets.

makefuckingmoney · 10-31-2003, 06:39 PM

Have fun at those parties with those settled companies..

I will be more interested in seeing the FTC results of their investigation of pump and dump part 2..

The stockholders and the times of settlement..

Should be very interesting!!

SleazyDream · 10-31-2003, 06:42 PM

<big><b>IF</b></big> AVN ratted people out - and then BULLSHITTED and said sanning badges and such - GFY within a YEAR will TAKE OVER the convention marketplace.

but I havn't heard of anyone saying AVN did this, so far it looks like they are in the clear and ok.

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=45249

10-31-2003, 09:40 AM	#1
mikesouth Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: My High Horse Posts: 6,334	AVN and Acacia AVN say on their site that scanning badges is how Acacia got info from Internext attendees. What do you guys think? __________________ Mike South It's No wonder I took up drugs and alcohol, it's the only way I could dumb myself down enough to cope with the morons in this biz.

10-31-2003, 09:42 AM	#2
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,235	I'm not sure who AVN shares that kind of information with, and I never really thought about it until just now. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

10-31-2003, 09:43 AM	#3
fatbaby Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 486	thats bullshit... I've never BEEN to an AVN sponsored event... __________________

10-31-2003, 10:04 AM	#4
Big Fish 47 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,035	Bullshit! I've never been to any event. __________________

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WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,485	I can tell you I'm not within the Matrix Database nor the Internext database (sponsors always pay for me to attend using their info) and I'm still baffled where my info came from ... WG __________________ I play with Google.

10-31-2003, 10:06 AM	#5
LeeNoga Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Egg & Sperm Mutation Posts: 3,043	We believe Acacia got their list from multiple sources, and the Internext attendees list was one of many surrendered, er stolen :-)))

10-31-2003, 11:53 AM	#7
Evil Chris OG Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 3rd from the Sun Posts: 13,235	I don't understand why they would need a list in the first place. All they would have to do is visit half a dozen of these webmaster boards on a daily basis to figure it all out. __________________ It PAYZE to post on GFY chris at payze.com \| Skype chriswrp

10-31-2003, 12:48 PM	#8
south-of-you Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Buenos Aires Posts: 8	Matrix signed a deal for basically nothing because Acacia only wanted there list of webmasters. AVN turned over their attendee list so that Acacia would get off of there back. That is just what I heard of course. Do you guys still go to the shows? You might re-think that business model if you do.

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10-31-2003, 02:05 PM	#17
Badabing Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9	I used different info on my Internext registration than what was on my letter. The info on my letter was the same info that I used to register with a certain content provider, as well as several sponsors, some of whom have also settled. Has anyone asked the content providers that settled whether they disclosed affiliate info??

10-31-2003, 04:08 PM	#19
triumph Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,433	I am sick of this shit, will all the people that gave out the webmaster infos to acacia please just say so, so we can fucking ban you guys from our day ro day activities.

10-31-2003, 06:23 PM	#20
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	If the industry trade magazines or event organizers start turning on the industry they serve, that's about as fucked as it gets.

10-31-2003, 06:39 PM	#21
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	Have fun at those parties with those settled companies.. I will be more interested in seeing the FTC results of their investigation of pump and dump part 2.. The stockholders and the times of settlement.. Should be very interesting!!

10-31-2003, 06:42 PM	#22
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	<big><b>IF</b></big> AVN ratted people out - and then BULLSHITTED and said sanning badges and such - GFY within a YEAR will TAKE OVER the convention marketplace. but I havn't heard of anyone saying AVN did this, so far it looks like they are in the clear and ok. http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=45249 __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog. Last edited by SleazyDream; 10-31-2003 at 06:47 PM..