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Old 10-31-2003, 09:40 AM   #1
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AVN and Acacia

AVN say on their site that scanning badges is how Acacia got info from Internext attendees.

What do you guys think?
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Old 10-31-2003, 09:42 AM   #2
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I'm not sure who AVN shares that kind of information with, and I never really thought about it until just now.
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Old 10-31-2003, 09:43 AM   #3
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thats bullshit... I've never BEEN to an AVN sponsored event...

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Old 10-31-2003, 10:04 AM   #4
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Bullshit! I've never been to any event.
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Old 10-31-2003, 10:06 AM   #5
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We believe Acacia got their list from multiple sources, and the Internext attendees list was one of many surrendered, er stolen :-)))
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Old 10-31-2003, 11:06 AM   #6
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I can tell you I'm not within the Matrix Database nor the Internext database (sponsors always pay for me to attend using their info) and I'm still baffled where my info came from ...

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Old 10-31-2003, 11:53 AM   #7
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I don't understand why they would need a list in the first place.
All they would have to do is visit half a dozen of these webmaster boards on a daily basis to figure it all out.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:48 PM   #8
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Matrix signed a deal for basically nothing because Acacia only wanted there list of webmasters.

AVN turned over their attendee list so that Acacia would get off of there back.

That is just what I heard of course.

Do you guys still go to the shows? You might re-think that business model if you do.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:53 PM   #9
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All they would have to do is visit half a dozen of these webmaster boards on a daily basis to figure it all out.
Of course they read these boards. And so does everyone else. If you look around, you will notice some of the larger players moving away from the boards. A lot of big companies have stopped posting all together. It may be great now to be the person that everyone knows but it won't be in the future.

I would know.

Acacia wouldn't lose trying to get the list from avn. They either turn it over or pay up.

Again, only guessing here. I really don't have a clue you know.
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:26 PM   #10
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Matrix signed a deal for basically nothing because Acacia only wanted there list of webmasters.

AVN turned over their attendee list so that Acacia would get off of there back.

That is just what I heard of course.

Do you guys still go to the shows? You might re-think that business model if you do.
See my post above...
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:28 PM   #11
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If they read the boards, why didn't I get one a long time ago?
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:40 PM   #12
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We believe Acacia got their list from multiple sources, and the Internext attendees list was one of many surrendered, er stolen :-)))
Bingo!
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:40 PM   #13
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that may be true, but acacia used a nickname of mine on our acacia letter isn't on any board... and we didn't use it with any sponsor, just a couple content providers.

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I don't understand why they would need a list in the first place.
All they would have to do is visit half a dozen of these webmaster boards on a daily basis to figure it all out.
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Old 10-31-2003, 01:44 PM   #14
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I can tell you I'm not within the Matrix Database nor the Internext database (sponsors always pay for me to attend using their info) and I'm still baffled where my info came from ...

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Maybe someone that hired from within the adult industry as a consultant helped point their paralegals/salese people in the right directions.

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All things Acacia in this thread: FTP's Acacia FAQ:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=190214


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Old 10-31-2003, 01:46 PM   #16
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Old 10-31-2003, 02:05 PM   #17
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I used different info on my Internext registration than what was on my letter. The info on my letter was the same info that I used to register with a certain content provider, as well as several sponsors, some of whom have also settled. Has anyone asked the content providers that settled whether they disclosed affiliate info??
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Old 10-31-2003, 04:05 PM   #18
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Old 10-31-2003, 04:08 PM   #19
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I am sick of this shit, will all the people that gave out the webmaster infos to acacia please just say so, so we can fucking ban you guys from our day ro day activities.
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Old 10-31-2003, 06:23 PM   #20
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If the industry trade magazines or event organizers start turning on the industry they serve, that's about as fucked as it gets.
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Old 10-31-2003, 06:39 PM   #21
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Have fun at those parties with those settled companies..

I will be more interested in seeing the FTC results of their investigation of pump and dump part 2..

The stockholders and the times of settlement..

Should be very interesting!!
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Old 10-31-2003, 06:42 PM   #22
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<big><b>IF</b></big> AVN ratted people out - and then BULLSHITTED and said sanning badges and such - GFY within a YEAR will TAKE OVER the convention marketplace.

but I havn't heard of anyone saying AVN did this, so far it looks like they are in the clear and ok.

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=45249
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