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Old 10-31-2003, 12:12 AM   #1
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Microsoft could fight Acacia?

http://zdnet.com.com/2102-1104_2-5050986.html

If I buy windows and use windows media server with .wmv files. Does that mean I can get Microsoft to fight Acacia?
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:15 AM   #2
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Sure seems logical to me, but I'm not an attorney. What about Real Player, MP3 and the rest?

MS could solve all this by buying Acacia - chump change to ole Bill.

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Old 10-31-2003, 12:17 AM   #3
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I don't think M$ even knows Acacia exists yet.... and if they do, I'm sure they're not overly worried, yet.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:18 AM   #4
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In Federal Court that is called a counter claim. The only major issue with that route is that you are counter suing Microsoft for defensive help from Acacia means that you are recognizing that Acacia's patent is valid and that Microsoft's software cause you to violate the patent.

We aren't at that stage. Acacia is against the ropes. There is no real reason to admit Acacia's patent is valid. It isn't.

I would highly recommend suing Acacia in small claims court for unfair business practises. This will cause Acacia to waste need resources and usually only cost $22 to file.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:19 AM   #5
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Think about it this way...

Acacia had a decision to make after they started to receive funds from the mainstream mom + pop businesses.

This decision was as follows.

1) Go after the likes of AOL / Microsoft.
2) Go after the (what they saw as) 'Seedy' Adult Industry.

Choice one could have potentially given them a LOT of major grief if they went for the throats of AOL / Microsoft as, they would have most likely been taken to court and lost a LOT of money.

Choice two, which they chose, they were hoping that because we work in the adult industry we would fold and not pull together as we have done, ultimately, it would have been a wiser business move on their part to go for AOL / Microsoft.

AOL / Microsoft in all likelyhood would have negotiated a settlement deal, it would have taken a while but they would have settled.

They chose adult.

If they had even done any 'prior' research on the adult industry they would have seen how we stick together when something threatens our livelyhoods. It happened a few years ago by all accounts when some company thought they had a valid patent on e-commerce transactions, needless to say, that company is no longer around
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:28 AM   #6
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I would highly recommend suing Acacia in small claims court for unfair business practises. This will cause Acacia to waste need resources and usually only cost $22 to file.


My thoughts exactly.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:30 AM   #7
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In Federal Court that is called a counter claim. The only major issue with that route is that you are counter suing Microsoft for defensive help from Acacia means that you are recognizing that Acacia's patent is valid and that Microsoft's software cause you to violate the patent.

We aren't at that stage. Acacia is against the ropes. There is no real reason to admit Acacia's patent is valid. It isn't.

I would highly recommend suing Acacia in small claims court for unfair business practises. This will cause Acacia to waste need resources and usually only cost $22 to file.
Like the way you think. Do it. No balls here on this one. Plus I'd have to really hit the books or hire an attorney to fight it even in small claims.
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:34 AM   #8
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well, I'm forced into talking to an attorney anyway on the subject. Wonder if I could get attorney fees out of 'em if I won that small claims battle???
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:52 AM   #9
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I don't think M$ even knows Acacia exists yet.... and if they do, I'm sure they're not overly worried, yet.
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Microsoft knows Acacia exists and who do you think Microsoft is going to support in the Homegrown case.. Acacia?

We will win.

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Old 10-31-2003, 12:53 AM   #10
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In Federal Court that is called a counter claim. The only major issue with that route is that you are counter suing Microsoft for defensive help from Acacia means that you are recognizing that Acacia's patent is valid and that Microsoft's software cause you to violate the patent.

We aren't at that stage. Acacia is against the ropes. There is no real reason to admit Acacia's patent is valid. It isn't.

I would highly recommend suing Acacia in small claims court for unfair business practises. This will cause Acacia to waste need resources and usually only cost $22 to file.

Great Idea!
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Think about it this way...

Acacia had a decision to make after they started to receive funds from the mainstream mom + pop businesses.

This decision was as follows.

1) Go after the likes of AOL / Microsoft.
2) Go after the (what they saw as) 'Seedy' Adult Industry.

Choice one could have potentially given them a LOT of major grief if they went for the throats of AOL / Microsoft as, they would have most likely been taken to court and lost a LOT of money.

Choice two, which they chose, they were hoping that because we work in the adult industry we would fold and not pull together as we have done, ultimately, it would have been a wiser business move on their part to go for AOL / Microsoft.

AOL / Microsoft in all likelyhood would have negotiated a settlement deal, it would have taken a while but they would have settled.

They chose adult.

If they had even done any 'prior' research on the adult industry they would have seen how we stick together when something threatens our livelyhoods. It happened a few years ago by all accounts when some company thought they had a valid patent on e-commerce transactions, needless to say, that company is no longer around
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:55 AM   #12
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I don't think M$ even knows Acacia exists yet.... and if they do, I'm sure they're not overly worried, yet.
Acacia has been around for a couple of years, I am sure Microsoft knows about them... they will just wait it out until Acacia asks them to pay for the licence... it may be a while
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Old 10-31-2003, 12:57 AM   #13
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http://zdnet.com.com/2102-1104_2-5050986.html

If I buy windows and use windows media server with .wmv files. Does that mean I can get Microsoft to fight Acacia?
But it is up to Acacia who they want to sue with patent infringement. So I doubt they want to sue Microsoft!

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Microsoft knows Acacia exists and who do you think Microsoft is going to support in the Homegrown case.. Acacia?

We will win.

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