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mailman · 10-30-2003, 09:18 AM

I got TWO letters today...

One to my new addy and one to my other addy AND the only people to have BOTH accts is matrix.

My old addy i frogot the acct name etc so i never used it thats why i created a new acct see where if it was a sponsor even if i never use them i ALWAY update my info where i could get a odd ball sign up or something i want my $$ where as matrix aint never gonna pay me so who gives a shit is i make a second acct right!

i dont know if it makes too much sence to you all but just like lil2rich and Jayman this is 150% SOLID PROOF that we know where the database came from!

Trax · 10-30-2003, 09:21 AM

i never questioned their database being used
fuckers

thanks for the info...
another undenieable case....

KRL · 10-30-2003, 09:22 AM

brand0n · 10-30-2003, 09:22 AM

never good

AWC · 10-30-2003, 09:23 AM

why open junk mail? Obviously they are fishing... respond and they got yah!

johnbosh · 10-30-2003, 09:24 AM

hahahahahhahahaha

mailman · 10-30-2003, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AWC
why open junk mail? Obviously they are fishing... respond and they got yah!

why open it? casue i got 2 letters. i really could care less im in canada!

But i opned both to see wtf was up and like i said go figure only place i have 2 addys is matrix!

MichaelP · 10-30-2003, 09:32 AM

Hi,
I also received TWO letters today both for the same Company

one to : 3xwebdesign

the other one to : 3X Web Design

and I have a very strange street name (for anglos) : St Jean Baptiste

But i received both to a different street names :
St Jean Baptiste and St J Baptiste

The funny thing tehy already sent me one few weeks ago for 3 different domains. And they are the only domains that are in my Matrix account...

Norm, I don't accuse you, but do I have the right to be suspicious... ???

The second funny thing, I don't have ANY video on 3xwebdesign.com. It is my design services site... Maybe they will tell me that I link to sites (my customers) who have videos...

Good luck to all

mailman · 10-30-2003, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by qwebecexpo

The second funny thing, I don't have ANY video on 3xwebdesign.com. It is my design services site... Maybe they will tell me that I link to sites (my customers) who have videos...

again no research just a bad mailing list really... lol

JFPdude · 10-30-2003, 09:34 AM

Have you guys called norman about this?

He has made a few public statements asking people to call when they have proof it came from his database. And he has good reason for this as he is trying to get to the bottom of the whole mess.

mailman · 10-30-2003, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
Have you guys called norman about this?

He has made a few public statements asking people to call when they have proof it came from his database. And he has good reason for this as he is trying to get to the bottom of the whole mess.

no but i will call him....

Digipimp · 10-30-2003, 09:35 AM

As I posted last night I got my letter to and without going through the whole story is was sent to my old address of a year ago. One year ago I was just getting back into biz right before then and I was using primarily 2 sponsors and 1 avs system and I registered at a couple content places and that's about it. Well I narrowed it down, all the sponsors and everything have my updated address and the 2 or 3 that didn't well only one of them has signed with ACACIA and that was Matrix. So that settles it for me as well as all the other stories that everyone else has.

Digipimp · 10-30-2003, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude
Have you guys called norman about this?

He has made a few public statements asking people to call when they have proof it came from his database. And he has good reason for this as he is trying to get to the bottom of the whole mess.

Trying to get to the bottom of this I like that.

I mean come on they are hitting new registers to their site as well as the oldest. It's obvious to anyone with half a clue what's happening. I don't believe that they are the only ones selling people out either, but they are and I don't think there's much doubt about that anymore.

JFPdude · 10-30-2003, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp

Trying to get to the bottom of this I like that. I mean come on they are hitting new registers to their site as well as the oldest. It's obvious to anyone with half a clue what's happening. I don't believe that they are the only ones selling people out either, but they are and I don't think there's much doubt about that anymore.

Think about this logically.

You own a business that makes 100% of all your money from webmasters.

Without these webmasters you whole business makes 0.

Would you as the company owner turn over your lists and ruin your business? I wouldn't.

However I have people that work for me. And I have tightened up my security so the only people anymore that has access to customer lists is myself and my wife.

Why did I do this? Because my employees may get the idea that my customer lists may be worth something.

You don't see lists being sold here? You don't think acacia reads these boards and you think they can't buy lists ?

Be real they have already claimed to many people that they have hundreds of college students getting this information in all ways possible.

Yes Matrix settled ... but they aren't the only ones that did. However it seems that they are the only ones people are using in this witchhunt.

Norman has been in this business for a long time and up till now his reputation was unharmed. Everybody admits he has the best content and has always been a fair guy. So why is everybody thinking he sold out all of a sudden. Yes he settled but it is not in Normans character to sell out.

This witchhunt needs to slow down and people need to use common sense. With all these accusations and in fighting going on acacia is winning it's propaganda battle against us.

WiredGuy · 10-30-2003, 10:00 AM

KRL said it best

WG

Digipimp · 10-30-2003, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFPdude

This witchhunt needs to slow down and people need to use common sense. With all these accusations and in fighting going on acacia is winning it's propaganda battle against us.

Actually I think they are winning their battle because companies like Matrix are willing to settle for sweetheart cheaper royalties and avoid legal fees and play both sides of the fence by giving a little bit of money to the IMPA and saying how they support the fight. It's a bunch of shit and everyone knows it. They sell out, other companies sell out, 9 out 10 people in this biz will sellout, just be real about it. Like I said before I would have more respect for them to say hey we signed because it was cheaper and we got a better deal if you don't like it then fuck you. I might consider doing biz with them and so would many others because at least they were real. but instead they and the other companies bullshit and play both sides of the fence saving tons and tons of money in royalties and legal fees and strengthening ACACIA's case while throwing $1000 to IMPA and asking for an assload of pub that they support the fight. Be real, instead they're a bunch of cocksmokers.

kenny · 10-30-2003, 10:14 AM

Isnt there suppose to be laws that prevent companies from giving out databases with that kind of info?

10-30-2003, 09:18 AM	#1
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	to add fule to the matrix and acacia fire.. I got TWO letters today... One to my new addy and one to my other addy AND the only people to have BOTH accts is matrix. My old addy i frogot the acct name etc so i never used it thats why i created a new acct see where if it was a sponsor even if i never use them i ALWAY update my info where i could get a odd ball sign up or something i want my $$ where as matrix aint never gonna pay me so who gives a shit is i make a second acct right! i dont know if it makes too much sence to you all but just like lil2rich and Jayman this is 150% SOLID PROOF that we know where the database came from!

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10-30-2003, 09:35 AM	#12
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	As I posted last night I got my letter to and without going through the whole story is was sent to my old address of a year ago. One year ago I was just getting back into biz right before then and I was using primarily 2 sponsors and 1 avs system and I registered at a couple content places and that's about it. Well I narrowed it down, all the sponsors and everything have my updated address and the 2 or 3 that didn't well only one of them has signed with ACACIA and that was Matrix. So that settles it for me as well as all the other stories that everyone else has. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

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10-30-2003, 09:21 AM	#2
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	i never questioned their database being used fuckers thanks for the info... another undenieable case....

10-30-2003, 09:23 AM	#5
AWC Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bumfuck Posts: 1,223	why open junk mail? Obviously they are fishing... respond and they got yah!

10-30-2003, 09:24 AM	#6
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10-30-2003, 09:32 AM	#8
MichaelP Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: QWEBEC Corporate Office Posts: 7,124	Hi, I also received TWO letters today both for the same Company one to : 3xwebdesign the other one to : 3X Web Design and I have a very strange street name (for anglos) : St Jean Baptiste But i received both to a different street names : St Jean Baptiste and St J Baptiste The funny thing tehy already sent me one few weeks ago for 3 different domains. And they are the only domains that are in my Matrix account... Norm, I don't accuse you, but do I have the right to be suspicious... ??? The second funny thing, I don't have ANY video on 3xwebdesign.com. It is my design services site... Maybe they will tell me that I link to sites (my customers) who have videos... Good luck to all

10-30-2003, 09:34 AM	#10
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	Have you guys called norman about this? He has made a few public statements asking people to call when they have proof it came from his database. And he has good reason for this as he is trying to get to the bottom of the whole mess.

10-30-2003, 10:14 AM	#17
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Isnt there suppose to be laws that prevent companies from giving out databases with that kind of info? __________________ 7