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Old 10-29-2003, 09:30 AM   #101
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100 letters to webmasters from Matrix's database.
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Old 10-29-2003, 09:30 AM   #102
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Old 10-29-2003, 09:36 AM   #103
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Old 10-29-2003, 10:00 AM   #104
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Old 10-29-2003, 10:35 AM   #105
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This same thing happened to me.

I got two Acacia letters, one was made out to my name, which was valid. Then two days later I get another one made out to my name and some weird company, TBG Inc. or something. So obviously at this point I'm thinking someone is giving out my info and I must have used a bullshit company name to signup somewhere.

I came on GFY that day and heard that people though Matrix was giving out info, so I went and logged into Matrix Content and saw that same company name, TBG Inc. (I've never used this company name anywhere else, it's not even my company name).

Fuck Matrix, I'll never buy shit from them again.
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Old 10-29-2003, 11:56 AM   #106
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This same thing happened to me.

I got two Acacia letters, one was made out to my name, which was valid. Then two days later I get another one made out to my name and some weird company, TBG Inc. or something. So obviously at this point I'm thinking someone is giving out my info and I must have used a bullshit company name to signup somewhere.

I came on GFY that day and heard that people though Matrix was giving out info, so I went and logged into Matrix Content and saw that same company name, TBG Inc. (I've never used this company name anywhere else, it's not even my company name).

Fuck Matrix, I'll never buy shit from them again.
watch out, you will now be accused of changing your acct info after being cought violating copyrights!!!

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Old 10-29-2003, 12:04 PM   #107
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Alright i was not going to post anything at all about this. As some of you know i used to work at Matrix for some time .. and this is not like them to do anything like this.. Although it sucks that you are all getting letters and shit... but the reality is this ... Acacia is after all of us wherever they got the information is irrelevant they are going to find you whether it is you home address, your P.O. Box, or your grandma's garage they are after everyone.

You should quit trying to figure it all out and try to help the guys that are fighting it any way that you can.

I got one and all i did is called them and said "I do not own a website at all" they said sorry we made a mistake and will take you off this list..

Quit yelling and screaming this and that and do something about Acacia. Hell there are a lot of things that you can do to help fight the patent. But be reminded as Spike has said. Until the patent is disproved you are still liable to pay them. Sux yeah. But it is the law until it is disproved.
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Old 10-29-2003, 12:10 PM   #108
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Just out of curiousity, and while I am not doubting your proof, how'd the mailman get it to the right address?
I used to manage direct mail operations for several casinos, where part of my job was "standardizing" adresses and presorting the mail so that we can pay the cheapest bulk rates for the postage. Standardizing means converting words like "Street" into "St", appending the four digit zip code extension, and sometimes even doing the carrier routing.

In Richie's case, either the street doesn't exist in that zip code or that address is not in the range of addresses on that street. That's why the mailing software didn't put in a 9 digit zipcode for that address. The mailer has the choice of choosing a close match for the street name & sending it with the other bulk, or they could send the mail out as addressed at the full first class rate.

There is no guarantee that the mail will be delivered to the correct address, but a lot of times it will get figured out correctly.
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Old 10-29-2003, 12:20 PM   #109
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Quit yelling and screaming this and that and do something about Acacia. Hell there are a lot of things that you can do to help fight the patent. But be reminded as Spike has said. Until the patent is disproved you are still liable to pay them. Sux yeah. But it is the law until it is disproved.
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Old 10-29-2003, 12:23 PM   #110
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my info is no secret, lol

nothing to hide.
nothing to hide lil..yeah right

I think you have something to hide

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Old 10-29-2003, 02:55 PM   #111
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nothing to hide lil..yeah right

I think you have something to hide

say wha?
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Old 10-29-2003, 04:32 PM   #112
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I have 100% proof of Matrix turning over their database to the nazis at Acacia!!!


Norman, you are a low life mother fucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hear Baghdad is nice this time of year.
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Old 10-29-2003, 04:34 PM   #113
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I recieved either my 3rd or 4th letter from Acacia the otherday all sent to the address Matrix Content has of mine. Matrix is the ONLY one that has that address still. I know cuz I keep that particular address VERY secretive for personal reasons. Funny how Matrix is listed on that letter as one of the cooperating companies too!

Matrix (Rat bastards) have recieved their last business from me & I've been buyin' from them since their begining too.

And, of course, all Acacia letters have been filed to the round file.
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Old 10-29-2003, 05:58 PM   #114
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Another bump for Lil2Rich & Matrix. If I get a letter too, say goodbye to business Matrix.
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Old 10-29-2003, 06:04 PM   #115
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Old 10-29-2003, 07:03 PM   #116
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... as an actg shareholder I have to say, thank you very much matrix ... good fucking job !!!

btw: did you buy in yourself before handing over the database ??
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Old 10-29-2003, 07:12 PM   #117
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Alright i was not going to post anything at all about this. As some of you know i used to work at Matrix for some time .. and this is not like them to do anything like this.. Although it sucks that you are all getting letters and shit... but the reality is this ... Acacia is after all of us wherever they got the information is irrelevant they are going to find you whether it is you home address, your P.O. Box, or your grandma's garage they are after everyone.

You should quit trying to figure it all out and try to help the guys that are fighting it any way that you can.

I got one and all i did is called them and said "I do not own a website at all" they said sorry we made a mistake and will take you off this list..

Quit yelling and screaming this and that and do something about Acacia. Hell there are a lot of things that you can do to help fight the patent. But be reminded as Spike has said. Until the patent is disproved you are still liable to pay them. Sux yeah. But it is the law until it is disproved.
You are defending your friends, not commenting on what is happening here.

It does matter who handed over the list. Would you do business with a company who sold your credit card to some kids in Eastern Europe?

Matrix should be suing Acacia. Based on what Norm has said so far, anything less is bullshit.

The release of this list, however it happened, is going to cost many people thousands of dollars and if you don't see a problem with that, it's because you care more about Matrix than you do about all of the people who are being hurt by this.

If this is Matrix's list, then they have cost people a lot of money - there is no excuse for that. They need to sue Acacia.
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Old 10-29-2003, 07:26 PM   #118
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I have bought alot of content from Matrix over the years. I have been keeping an open mind as to who did what.

But the proof is now over mounting that Matrix sold us webmasters out to Acacia.

Yes alot of companies have settled, including my company, but never ever ever would we even dream of giving up our webmaster information. Our bread and butter, our hard working loyal webmasters who got us where we are.

Shame is not the word, this is Disgusting.

Matrix speak up man why was I one of the first companies to get the package. Did you single out my company.

Fuckers!

Chaos buddy, you were Matrix to me. Good time for leaving that company.
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Accusations flying around without proof generally come back to bite you in the ass, though. If indeed Matrix pursues legal action, they can ONLY do so if Norm is telling the truth.. and the people who are in here accusing and yelling at them are going to look very stupid with egg on their faces.. Best to have all the facts BEFORE passing judgement, is it not?
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Alright i was not going to post anything at all about this. As some of you know i used to work at Matrix for some time .. and this is not like them to do anything like this.. Although it sucks that you are all getting letters and shit... but the reality is this ... Acacia is after all of us wherever they got the information is irrelevant they are going to find you whether it is you home address, your P.O. Box, or your grandma's garage they are after everyone.

You should quit trying to figure it all out and try to help the guys that are fighting it any way that you can.

I got one and all i did is called them and said "I do not own a website at all" they said sorry we made a mistake and will take you off this list..

Quit yelling and screaming this and that and do something about Acacia. Hell there are a lot of things that you can do to help fight the patent. But be reminded as Spike has said. Until the patent is disproved you are still liable to pay them. Sux yeah. But it is the law until it is disproved.
Fuck you.
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If indeed Matrix pursues legal action, they can ONLY do so if Norm is telling the truth..
... why do you think they can not take legal action even if norman is not telling the truth ??
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I have bought alot of content from Matrix over the years. I have been keeping an open mind as to who did what.

But the proof is now over mounting that Matrix sold us webmasters out to Acacia.

Yes alot of companies have settled, including my company, but never ever ever would we even dream of giving up our webmaster information. Our bread and butter, our hard working loyal webmasters who got us where we are.

Shame is not the word, this is Disgusting.

Matrix speak up man why was I one of the first companies to get the package. Did you single out my company.

Fuckers!

Chaos buddy, you were Matrix to me. Good time for leaving that company.
Same here Dave, I got the very first package as well way back when - I settled to PROTECT my webmasters not turn them in... I owe everything to my affiliates - my database never even came up in the convo! WTF
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Accusations flying around without proof generally come back to bite you in the ass, though. If indeed Matrix pursues legal action, they can ONLY do so if Norm is telling the truth.. and the people who are in here accusing and yelling at them are going to look very stupid with egg on their faces.. Best to have all the facts BEFORE passing judgement, is it not?
what judgement?
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say wha?
I don't want to drag you down the mud but..I can, remember that.

so don't lie on gfy, it make me think about it, maybe you should post me on the who I respect list you posted a while ago..I wasn't happy about not finding my name there.

I got screenshots if you didn't know that yet.

Ok, enough said, you are my friend, so I gonna stop playing mafia now.

But no more lies lil, because I starting to doubt about what archive I need to put you in.


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Accusations flying around without proof generally come back to bite you in the ass, though. If indeed Matrix pursues legal action, they can ONLY do so if Norm is telling the truth.. and the people who are in here accusing and yelling at them are going to look very stupid with egg on their faces.. Best to have all the facts BEFORE passing judgement, is it not?
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Old 10-29-2003, 08:57 PM   #128
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I don't want to drag you down the mud but..I can, remember that.

so don't lie on gfy, it make me think about it, maybe you should post me on the who I respect list you posted a while ago..I wasn't happy about not finding my name there.

I got screenshots if you didn't know that yet.

Ok, enough said, you are my friend, so I gonna stop playing mafia now.

But no more lies lil, because I starting to doubt about what archive I need to put you in.

wtf?

second post of yours in a row, i have no CLUE what you talking about lol

I am not lying when i say i have NOTHING to hide ... i am sparkling clean.

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