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MartinBanks 10-28-2003 08:09 AM

like der

LeeNoga 10-28-2003 08:16 AM

Welp since nobody asked me.

I think this whole concept of a stolen list is total bullshit.

Matrix is small, have no bankroll for major legal messes, and if they were offered a deal, it is my opinion they took it.

They had to make a decision between going belly up and driven out of business because of Acacia or do what they had to do to get thru this and earn a living.

I mean, shit...think about it, if it were you, you would have done the same thing.

Who ya bullshitting here.

Kevin2 10-28-2003 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Welp since nobody asked me.

I think this whole concept of a stolen list is total bullshit.

Matrix is small, have no bankroll for major legal messes, and if they were offered a deal, it is my opinion they took it.

They had to make a decision between going belly up and driven out of business because of Acacia or do what they had to do to get thru this and earn a living.

I mean, shit...think about it, if it were you, you would have done the same thing.

Who ya bullshitting here.

LeeNoga I disagree with you. Not everyone in the biz would do that and I would rather shutdown my content site before I did a deal like this with Acacia.

basschick 10-28-2003 01:25 PM

but lee, we don't know that's what happened. maybe the database of registered webmasters really WAS stolen, and if that's the case, they might even find help with a legal fund right here by letting us know.

if acacia is using a stolen list, they should be stopped, as should anyone using stolen material. also it makes people think less of matrix to think they gave away our info and then lied, so if they didn't, this is an opportunity to quiet all doubters. if matrix is not telling us the truth, we deserve to know who gave away our personal information. that simple.

BradShaw 10-28-2003 01:28 PM

IMHO appears that Martix rolled over, and is trying to out a band aid on the situation. Guys behind Matrix have real $, and if Acacia is using said list, they could do something about it. Of course, unless they gave it to them.

BVF 10-28-2003 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kevin2


LeeNoga I disagree with you. Not everyone in the biz would do that and I would rather shutdown my content site before I did a deal like this with Acacia.

And then what would you do? Flip Burgers?

You think that a widely known content provider like Matrix would rather shut down COMPLETELY rather than turn over the list and lose a lot of customers but STILL be in business?

Ron Bennett 10-28-2003 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction
Get your lawyers on this now.

Send them a cease and desist right now. Tell them they are not allowed to contact any more of your customers or they will be sued.

You say the list is stolen, let Acacia know that they are using a stolen customer list and tell them to stop using a stolen list, now or they will be liable for any damage they do to your business from this time forward. They should also know that there may be criminal charges if they continue to use a list they know is stolen.

*Assuming* a portion of the list of names (probably compiled from multiple sources) came from Matrix Content, I will bet it was NOT stolen, but more likely GIVEN to Acacia by Matrix Content as part of their settlement with them.

Don't expect Matrix Content to admit nor deny this; they may even lie, since Matrix Content likely signed a NDA as part of their settlement...it may very well take court action to get the truth.

With that said, the real battle now is not with Matrix Content, but rather with Acacia...in the meantime, one does best in my view to AVOID all companies/sponsors that settled with Acacia and sold out the adult community.

Ron

Kevin2 10-28-2003 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF


And then what would you do? Flip Burgers?

You think that a widely known content provider like Matrix would rather shut down COMPLETELY rather than turn over the list and lose a lot of customers but STILL be in business?

BVF I have more revenue streams that just content. I will loose a few bucks bit so fucking what. Money I can always earn again but if you sell out on your customers your fucked. Would you sell out your fellow webmasters?

JDog 10-28-2003 03:07 PM

This is a great idea! Hopefully they don't contact me!

jDoG

greentea 10-28-2003 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Welp since nobody asked me.

I think this whole concept of a stolen list is total bullshit.

Matrix is small, have no bankroll for major legal messes, and if they were offered a deal, it is my opinion they took it.

They had to make a decision between going belly up and driven out of business because of Acacia or do what they had to do to get thru this and earn a living.

I mean, shit...think about it, if it were you, you would have done the same thing.

Who ya bullshitting here.



Yep exactly lee!

Matrix got caught, thats the botton line.. Others will follow im sure..

nuclei 10-28-2003 04:22 PM

The list was not stolen long ago.

brand0n 10-28-2003 04:26 PM

wtf, why hasent someone from the matrix camp responded to this?

gin 10-28-2003 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Welp since nobody asked me.

I think this whole concept of a stolen list is total bullshit.

Matrix is small, have no bankroll for major legal messes, and if they were offered a deal, it is my opinion they took it.

They had to make a decision between going belly up and driven out of business because of Acacia or do what they had to do to get thru this and earn a living.

I mean, shit...think about it, if it were you, you would have done the same thing.

Who ya bullshitting here.

100% wrong, they could of done a super content sale, they got so many nice pictures, tuns of movies, do a nice deal for 50,000 pics 5k 100,000 pics 10k and they would of had enough to pay them 2% or fight it in court, but instead they fucked themselves and no one will want to buy shit from them again


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