I got my Acacia letter today - GoFuckYourself.com

AdultWebGraphics · 10-27-2003, 08:57 AM

What sucks is I have only signed up to 3 programs in 4 years and out of the 3 only 1 of them has the address that it was sent to and that was Matrix content.

brand0n · 10-27-2003, 08:58 AM

never good

Reak · 10-27-2003, 08:58 AM

you at USA or EU ?

Juicy D. Links · 10-27-2003, 08:58 AM

Dont worry about it man, till you get a certified letter or served

AdultWebGraphics · 10-27-2003, 08:58 AM

AdultWebGraphics · 10-27-2003, 08:59 AM

I wonder if they even look at who they are sending them to. I am a designer, I dont stream shit off my site haha

Reak · 10-27-2003, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
USA

Guilty

Juicy D. Links · 10-27-2003, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by Reak

Guilty

Rochard · 10-27-2003, 09:01 AM

Welcome to the club.

It doesn't seem to matter if you have streaming videos on your site or not, they'll still send it to you. It seems what they are doing is nailing everyone in the industry hoping you won't be able to fight a lawsuit and thinking you'll give in without a fight.

Juicy D. Links · 10-27-2003, 09:03 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard
Welcome to the club.

It doesn't seem to matter if you have streaming videos on your site or not, they'll still send it to you. It seems what they are doing is nailing everyone in the industry hoping you won't be able to fight a lawsuit and thinking you'll give in without a fight.

Exactly

I wish I had like a few million lieing around and I would use it for a staff of cock sucking lawyers whose job was to file lawsuit after lawsuit after Acacia.

lakeview · 10-27-2003, 09:05 AM

do your letters even give any domains that you're supposedly violating their patents on, or a dollar amount you owe or anything?

or are the letters just really general and they expect you to call them?

I saw amp's and his was just general since he doesn't even have any sites.

AdultWebGraphics · 10-27-2003, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Reak

Guilty

damn, i knew it

AdultWebGraphics · 10-27-2003, 09:08 AM

It's just a general letter.

mr rick · 10-27-2003, 09:40 AM

no letter yet, but my address on file matrix is wrong. I used mailbox express (never my home address) until I recently moved and haven't used my new address except for ccbill and a few sponsors. my old mailbox express box just shreds or returns anything coming there.

Best to rent a mail box for dealing in this industry.

Stud Money · 10-27-2003, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
It's just a general letter.

No, you mean, Its just a letter legally it isnt worth the paper it is written on, pretty much like the patent itself

Oh we still havent recieved any letters from these asshats

AdultWebGraphics · 10-27-2003, 09:53 AM

it was sent to my PO box, I never ever use my home addy for stuff like that.

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-27-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Dont worry about it man, till you get a certified letter or served

VERY TRUE!

KRL · 10-27-2003, 09:57 AM

Las Vegas (Reuters) - Acacia letters blamed for massive bonfire in front of the Venetian Hotel during Adult Webmasters Convention.

Juicy D. Links · 10-27-2003, 10:06 AM

@ KRL

Mike AI · 10-27-2003, 10:14 AM

Juicy, you got a letter from Acacia and were pissed, you were pissed with many of the people who settled, yet you have TCG in your sig.

Last I checked TCG was one of the early companies who settled with Acacia?

What is the deal? Can the guido be bought for a few bucks?

I have noticed a lot of Sig Whores with TCG in their sigs making posts AGAINST Acacia, and those who settled, or "sold out".

I found it pretty ironic.....

What is your take on this?

SleazyDream · 10-27-2003, 10:16 AM

didn't sex.com try and sue everyone (before garry had it back) for use of the word 'sex' in their url a while back?

same stupid kind of idea.............

Serge_Oprano · 10-27-2003, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI

I found it pretty ironic.....

What is your take on this?

My take on this is that you are WRO(NG,
this is GFY and this is NOT Ironic...
this is MORONIC!
;-)))

SleazyDream · 10-27-2003, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
Juicy, you got a letter from Acacia and were pissed, you were pissed with many of the people who settled, yet you have TCG in your sig.

Last I checked TCG was one of the early companies who settled with Acacia?

What is the deal? Can the guido be bought for a few bucks?

I have noticed a lot of Sig Whores with TCG in their sigs making posts AGAINST Acacia, and those who settled, or "sold out".

I found it pretty ironic.....

What is your take on this?

OWNED

Juicy D. Links · 10-27-2003, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
Juicy, you got a letter from Acacia and were pissed, you were pissed with many of the people who settled, yet you have TCG in your sig.

Last I checked TCG was one of the early companies who settled with Acacia?

What is the deal? Can the guido be bought for a few bucks?

I have noticed a lot of Sig Whores with TCG in their sigs making posts AGAINST Acacia, and those who settled, or "sold out".

I found it pretty ironic.....

What is your take on this?

Yeah i was pissed, but tbh till i get served I am not going to let it bother me.

If they want to settle thats there choice, only thing that bothered me is affliate info being sent to Acacia.

I mean tbh honest its more than a few bucks at least my deal with them. Now if TCG sent my info to Acacia and said here go get the guido then that a differnet story.

See i was posting alot even way before the sig buyout started.
Now i still post the same amount and possibly less. Hypocritcal ,,, I guess I cant deny it , and you brought up a good point

Mike AI · 10-27-2003, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by juicylinks

Yeah i was pissed, but tbh till i get served I am not going to let it bother me.

If they want to settle thats there choice, only thing that bothered me is affliate info being sent to Acacia.

I mean tbh honest its more than a few bucks at least my deal with them. Now if TCG sent my info to Acacia and said here go get the guido then that a differnet story.

See i was posting alot even way before the sig buyout started.
Now i still post the same amount and possibly less. Hypocritcal ,,, I guess I cant deny it , and you brought up a good point

Well at least you are honest, and did not try to play it off or call names. It has been interesting to see how some companies who settled with Acacia seemed to be getting hit hard on the boards (Hulster), while others seem to be getting a free pass ( TCG).

I was just trying to figure out why this was happening. Was it because TCG is paying posters for their Sig's thus people do not want to piss them off? OR could there be some type of agenda by others to slander certain companies?

I do not know the anwers, I was just playing devil's advocate.

Juicy D. Links · 10-27-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI

Well at least you are honest, and did not try to play it off or call names. It has been interesting to see how some companies who settled with Acacia seemed to be getting hit hard on the boards (Hulster), while others seem to be getting a free pass ( TCG).

I was just trying to figure out why this was happening. Was it because TCG is paying posters for their Sig's thus people do not want to piss them off? OR could there be some type of agenda by others to slander certain companies?

I do not know the anwers, I was just playing devil's advocate.

Mike,

You know how GFY is drama starts , people jump on the badnwagon and shit and 5 minutes later a companies name is blasted.

When i got my letter, it was addressed in a certain way, and based on my own findings I know how they got it. Now if the db was stolen, hacked and so on who really knows.

Second for example , TCG if they were the com that gave them my info , then you can bet i wouldnt be flying there sig.

If a company wants to settle its their choice, their business,
Now if they are gonna rat out 1000's of webmasters to get a better deal and save their but thats completely different situaltion

Flow · 10-27-2003, 10:42 AM

Three points here....

1) Not sure why anybody would come to a public forum and make an announcement that they recieved their acacia letter. Why the hell would they want to go through the hassle of getting these letters certified when the people they are going after publicly confess they have recieved these letters. Screw the second and third notice - go right for court.

2) Even if the patent is eventualy invalidated, we are talking several years for that process to happen. Chances are pretty good that Acacia will make a pretty penny off of their claim before then. The patent may actually expire (I think it does in like 7 years) before it is invalidated. It is not going to happen over night despite the amount of prior art that is or is not found. More and more companies will continue to sign agreements with Acacia which will make their bank roll grow.

3) On a positive note, Flash Cash said recently they have like 20k webmasters promoting their sites so I have to believe there is more than 50-70k adult webmasters out there around the world. How many years is it going to take to take all of these "affliate" webmasters to court and win judgements against them? We are talking some serious time. First they have to decided which ones will net them the most money in the long run. and go after them first and I would bet they will go after the huge sponsor systems and AVS in court before they even think about going after those that promote them.

My point = none, just pointing out some stuff I have been thinking about lately.

Flow

Adultnet · 10-27-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
I wonder if they even look at who they are sending them to. I am a designer, I dont stream shit off my site haha

fun

Webattorney · 10-27-2003, 11:06 AM

Just published an article on the Acacia issues:

http://www.adultindustryupdate.com/a...%20ARTICLE.pdf

Choker · 10-27-2003, 11:35 AM

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1) Not sure why anybody would come to a public forum and make an announcement that they recieved their acacia letter. Why the hell would they want to go through the hassle of getting these letters certified when the people they are going after publicly confess they have recieved these letters. Screw the second and third notice - go right for court.

The letter is not a notice of lawsuit. I would think a notice of lawsuit has to be serverd, not just mailed. But who knows. As the letter reads that I got it is not a court document, so the scenario you oultine above is not applicable at all.

Choker · 10-27-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by Webattorney
Just published an article on the Acacia issues:

http://www.adultindustryupdate.com/a...%20ARTICLE.pdf

I'm waiting on calls from my family law attorney and am trying to get a call in to you as soon as possible. BTW why in PDF? Does anyone have this in text file?

Webattorney · 10-27-2003, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Choker

I'm waiting on calls from my family law attorney and am trying to get a call in to you as soon as possible. BTW why in PDF? Does anyone have this in text file?

Give me an email addy and I'll send it to you in what ever form you want. Adobe is to protect the articles from being altered. Yes, that happens. Talk to you soon.

$hurik · 10-27-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by AdultWebGraphics
What sucks is I have only signed up to 3 programs in 4 years and out of the 3 only 1 of them has the address that it was sent to and that was Matrix content.

Same here.

Got my letter today : ) I think Matrixcontent sells personal info to 3rd party.

Choker · 10-27-2003, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by Webattorney

Give me an email addy and I'll send it to you in what ever form you want. Adobe is to protect the articles from being altered. Yes, that happens. Talk to you soon.

Thanks, it's choker at chokinchicken dot com

SetTheWorldonFire · 10-27-2003, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

Las Vegas (Reuters) - Acacia letters blamed for massive bonfire in front of the Venetian Hotel during Adult Webmasters Convention.

yes... yeees... ooooh yeeeeeeeeeeees... Fiiiiiiirrrrrrre!

WiredGuy · 10-27-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Dont worry about it man, till you get a certified letter or served

10-27-2003, 08:57 AM	#1
AdultWebGraphics Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 980	I got my Acacia letter today What sucks is I have only signed up to 3 programs in 4 years and out of the 3 only 1 of them has the address that it was sent to and that was Matrix content.

10-27-2003, 08:58 AM	#2
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	never good __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

10-27-2003, 09:01 AM	#9
Rochard Jägermeister Test Pilot Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: NORCAL Posts: 74,071	Welcome to the club. It doesn't seem to matter if you have streaming videos on your site or not, they'll still send it to you. It seems what they are doing is nailing everyone in the industry hoping you won't be able to fight a lawsuit and thinking you'll give in without a fight. __________________ “The choice is no longer between right or left. The choice is between normal and crazy.” - Sarah Huckabee Sanders YNOT MAIL \| THE BEST ADULT MAILING SOLUTION

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10-27-2003, 10:14 AM	#20
Mike AI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 3,624	Juicy, you got a letter from Acacia and were pissed, you were pissed with many of the people who settled, yet you have TCG in your sig. Last I checked TCG was one of the early companies who settled with Acacia? What is the deal? Can the guido be bought for a few bucks? I have noticed a lot of Sig Whores with TCG in their sigs making posts AGAINST Acacia, and those who settled, or "sold out". I found it pretty ironic..... What is your take on this? __________________ Make big money on your Domains! Why wait 40 days to get paid with the other guys? Parked.com pays the most for your traffic, and cuts checks twice a month!

10-27-2003, 08:58 AM	#3
Reak So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 420Calendar.com Posts: 17,920	you at USA or EU ?

10-27-2003, 08:58 AM	#4
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Dont worry about it man, till you get a certified letter or served

10-27-2003, 08:59 AM	#6
AdultWebGraphics Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 980	I wonder if they even look at who they are sending them to. I am a designer, I dont stream shit off my site haha

10-27-2003, 09:05 AM	#11
lakeview Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 247	do your letters even give any domains that you're supposedly violating their patents on, or a dollar amount you owe or anything? or are the letters just really general and they expect you to call them? I saw amp's and his was just general since he doesn't even have any sites.

10-27-2003, 09:08 AM	#13
AdultWebGraphics Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 980	It's just a general letter.

10-27-2003, 09:40 AM	#14
mr rick Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 104	no letter yet, but my address on file matrix is wrong. I used mailbox express (never my home address) until I recently moved and haven't used my new address except for ccbill and a few sponsors. my old mailbox express box just shreds or returns anything coming there. Best to rent a mail box for dealing in this industry.

10-27-2003, 09:53 AM	#16
AdultWebGraphics Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 980	it was sent to my PO box, I never ever use my home addy for stuff like that.

10-27-2003, 10:06 AM	#19
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	@ KRL

10-27-2003, 10:16 AM	#21
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	didn't sex.com try and sue everyone (before garry had it back) for use of the word 'sex' in their url a while back? same stupid kind of idea............. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

10-27-2003, 10:42 AM	#27
Flow Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 518	Three points here.... 1) Not sure why anybody would come to a public forum and make an announcement that they recieved their acacia letter. Why the hell would they want to go through the hassle of getting these letters certified when the people they are going after publicly confess they have recieved these letters. Screw the second and third notice - go right for court. 2) Even if the patent is eventualy invalidated, we are talking several years for that process to happen. Chances are pretty good that Acacia will make a pretty penny off of their claim before then. The patent may actually expire (I think it does in like 7 years) before it is invalidated. It is not going to happen over night despite the amount of prior art that is or is not found. More and more companies will continue to sign agreements with Acacia which will make their bank roll grow. 3) On a positive note, Flash Cash said recently they have like 20k webmasters promoting their sites so I have to believe there is more than 50-70k adult webmasters out there around the world. How many years is it going to take to take all of these "affliate" webmasters to court and win judgements against them? We are talking some serious time. First they have to decided which ones will net them the most money in the long run. and go after them first and I would bet they will go after the huge sponsor systems and AVS in court before they even think about going after those that promote them. My point = none, just pointing out some stuff I have been thinking about lately. Flow

10-27-2003, 11:06 AM	#29
Webattorney Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 30	Just published an article on the Acacia issues: http://www.adultindustryupdate.com/a...%20ARTICLE.pdf __________________ Lawrence G. Walters, Esq. www.FirstAmendment.com Walters Law Group