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Old 08-21-2002, 01:47 PM   #1
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HollywoodTGP slapped with Lawsuit

"Hollywood Chamber of Commerce and Global Icons Entertainment Licensing" - just slapped me with papers for using "Hollywood Stylized Text and Logos on my site."

It was ONLY the use of the ****H O L L Y W O O D**** style letters on my site.

Going to scan the letters shortly.
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Old 08-21-2002, 01:50 PM   #2
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Sorry to hear that Fletch XXX. Fuck me, that SUCKS big time

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Cease n desist yes.
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Was this a gif or did you actually type out Hollywood like that?
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I am uploading now...

I was reading an attactched letter as well saying they had previously emailed me and snail mailed me, but I had ignored them (so they say) I have not gotten an email or letter from them until now.

That letter says I ignored them sorry jumped the gun regarding *lawsuit*
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<img src=http://69khz.com/images/page1.jpg>

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I Love where they threaten me with damages for past use.
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Old 08-21-2002, 02:19 PM   #11
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thats stupid. i cant even being to count the number of things that use that "hollywood" styled text & shit ... movies, signs, stores, fonts, cds, dvds, on & on & on ....
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Seems like they are expecting a settlement for past usage.. I'm no expert with law. But I don't understand how they would even have a case, and If the company asked me for a settlement for past usage, i'd tell them to GFY.
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you should feel important, my ego is still blown up when i had Tommy Hilfigure slappin a suit on me for some domains i have... err had.... When I told them about the Panamanian corporation that owns all those sites (hehe!) they had panamanian attorneys send the same suit to the corporate HQ in panama.... they were advised to give up the doms ... sucked...
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I love the fact that "Superbooger Alliance" is laid out.. only in fucking Hollywood..
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either they are idiots who don't realize that they have no case or they got johnny cochran...
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I wonder if you just used pics of the hollywood sign? hehe

Lets take a hike.

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This only goes in the pile.

Nintendo was the last...
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Check your history...

The HCC let the sign fall into disrepair and a private
citizen's group fixed it back up and continue to
constantly raise the money to maintain it's condition.

If you are a resident of Hollywood (quick get a PO box)
then you'd have claim to be allowed to use what has
become public property.

Be a fun arguement court.
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The letter is postmarked from Indianapolis.

Funny.

If Global Icons is located at 3679 Motor Ave in Los Angeles Ca and the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce is mailing me, why is this letter coming from Indiana?
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Hmmm. are you referring to hollywood calif. or hollywood fla. or where ever else there is a hollywood, on your site? is there a hollywood pa., or a hollywood ohio or others? what makes these people think you are referring to an actual location in calif.? could it be a "hollywood, state of mind" as in a "new york, state of mind"? just some thoughts. please don't sue me billy joel
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Check your history...

The HCC let the sign fall into disrepair and a private
citizen's group fixed it back up and continue to
constantly raise the money to maintain it's condition.

If you are a resident of Hollywood (quick get a PO box)
then you'd have claim to be allowed to use what has
become public property.

Be a fun arguement court.
Yep, Fletch and myself (im his gf) both reside in Hollywood.

I'm looking into the legalities right now.
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Hmmm. are you referring to hollywood calif. or hollywood fla. or where ever else there is a hollywood, on your site? is there a hollywood pa., or a hollywood ohio or others? what makes these people think you are referring to an actual location in calif.? could it be a "hollywood, state of mind" as in a "new york, state of mind"? just some thoughts. please don't sue me billy joel
Its more about the copyright or trademark of the <i> STYLE</i> in which <font color="gold"><b><i>HOLLYWOOD</b></i></font> was written.

I fully understand their rights and respect them.

Thats why I took it down.

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See if they did the same thing to Hollywood Video cause I doubt they have an agreement. They are just targeting you dude cause you are a porn webmaster.

That and they don't own fonts. You have a clearly stylized logo that is definitely not going to be confused with thier trademark.
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See if they did the same thing to Hollywood Video cause I doubt they have an agreement. They are just targeting you dude cause you are a porn webmaster.

That and they don't own fonts. You have a clearly stylized logo that is definitely not going to be confused with thier trademark.
I know bro.

I know.

Bottom line is they can say who can use it and who cannot.

They basically want me to pay to use it as well. Which is prolly what <i>HOLLYWOOD VIDEO</i> does.

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I hope they dont find my Ron Jeremy Hustler Hollywood Chicklet Star, they gonna have to fight Larry Flynt for that one.
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I honestly did NOT know I was infringing. please don't make out like I was. Judging from thie letter I am not allowed to use "stars" on my site either.
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heehee. change your site name to HOLLYWOODLAND TGP. maybe even have a little image of a starlet jumping off the thirteenth letter...
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I honestly did NOT know I was infringing. please don't make out like I was. Judging from thie letter I am not allowed to use "stars" on my site either.
I think your problem lies more in the font you used in that you are making it resemble the hollywood sign.

I'm sure if you just used another font you'd be okay...however I'm not a lawyer I only play one when fucking hookers.
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I think your problem lies more in the font you used in that you are making it resemble the hollywood sign.

I'm sure if you just used another font you'd be okay...however I'm not a lawyer I only play one when fucking hookers.
True.

I am not debating them,, again, I took it down before I even read the letter.

;)

I think they were more concerned about "Official"
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I seriously doubt they have a case. Especially if the sign is really maintained by a public group, now. What are they going to claim? Confusing similarity to the real sign? Surfers might think they're really in Hollywood? It doesn't even look that much like the Hollywood sign. I think they're just blowing smoke up your ass.

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i never liked this font....now is responsibe for a lawsuit...what's next
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Oh just so you guys arent confused.

In the letter they mention I use the "Infringing" logo twice.

Under the logo I had a webcam window where I place pics from around Hollywood...

http://hollywoodtgp.com/cam.html

That is the ONLY 2 things that had the HOLLYWOOD style text.

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i never liked this font....now is responsibe for a lawsuit...what's next
Its 2 different fonts.
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Its 2 different fonts.
May be 2 different fonts but it's designed to make the letters resemble the hollywood sign.

I honestly couldn't care less and those unoriginal mother fuckers in hollywood can go fuck themselves.
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i'm sure it is a bad day to get one of those letters and not to make light of it...but it's addressed to the


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One way to get around the C & D bullshit is to say, and more importantly demonstrate, that your site is a PARODY of everything Hollywood stands for. In essence, you are satirizing the mark and hence not trying to gain from any mistaken identification.

This is a valid exemption, called FAIR USE, to US copyright laws.
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i'm sure it is a bad day to get one of those letters and not to make light of it...but it's addressed to the


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Taste the green....
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When we registered that name, it never occured to us there would be any trademark issues as HOLLYWOOD is where we live.

I mean, what next? Is the state of Texas gonna bring down TexasTGP?? Infringing on the trademark?

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Or could Canada get pissed?

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You probably would win on the grounds of "fair use," but this is one of those things that probably just isn't worth defending. Change the font and they'll go away. If they don't, take the site down and they'll go away.

Meanwhile, you won't be wasting lots of time and money...
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take a picture of the hollywood sign and use that. you see pictures of it everywhere

i would tell them to fuck off, but thats because i have nothing to lose


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take a picture of the hollywood sign and use that. you see pictures of it everywhere

i would tell them to fuck off, but thats because i have nothing to lose


i hate california
I have thought of taking a picture of the sign, but that would technically be a *picture of their trademarked icon* right? Which *I* would own ? to the Picture itself.

hmmmm.
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Old 08-21-2002, 06:12 PM   #47
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It's also could be you have..

The Official

I don't fucking know...but maybe do not use those words.
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Old 08-21-2002, 06:15 PM   #48
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thats stupid. i cant even being to count the number of things that use that "hollywood" styled text & shit ... movies, signs, stores, fonts, cds, dvds, on & on & on ....
Maybe the owners of the Hollywood trademark are collecting fees from all those entities. On the other hand, "Hollywood" is in such common use in so many ways ("He went Hollywood on us," "It's the Hollywood of France," etc.), it'll be hard to defend.
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Old 08-21-2002, 07:43 PM   #49
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Ummm
so I guess they don't have a Hollywood Video in Hollywood, huh?

http://www.hollywoodvideo.com/
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Old 08-21-2002, 07:55 PM   #50
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Mrs. RedShoe works in Childrens animation. She says that in some of the animations the characters went to "Los Angeles" for an episode. Those hollywood people want $25,000 every time that sign is in an animation.

$25,000 and that's just for animation. Needless to say they just didn't animate it into the background. I can only imagine how much it costs for use in movies
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