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Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 04:15 PM

something very interesting I just noticed about my letter....

the address they sent it to. It doesn't add up. I always put my address the same way on everything, yet their letter is referencing something that was changed about the actual physical address back when the community was in development.

very few people here on the island even know about this.

this most definately narrows the search.

Fabuleux · 10-23-2003, 04:17 PM

Interesting....

tical · 10-23-2003, 04:46 PM

the hunt... is on...

Mr.Fiction · 10-23-2003, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
something very interesting I just noticed about my letter....

the address they sent it to. It doesn't add up. I always put my address the same way on everything, yet their letter is referencing something that was changed about the actual physical address back when the community was in development.

very few people here on the island even know about this.

this most definately narrows the search.

Did you buy any content using that old address information?

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 04:49 PM

the things I know for certain:

1. I'm registered with most sponsors and providers, most of which I haven't logged into in well over a year. So going through each one to check my account info is impossible. I don't have the logins anymore.

2. The address they sent my package to is bizarre on two counts. They have legal info about it that virtually no one knows or could know, yet they screwed up on another part of it.

3. I've never purchased video content from anyone.

4. I don't operate any sites, hence the lack of any urls in the letter to me.

where this leaves me? I'm utterly mystified. I have no fricken clue where they could have gotten my name AND this screwed up address from, nor how they came to justify sending me a letter.

Not that I'm worried about it, because they've got nothing on me whatsoever..... but this is pretty damned bizarre. Do they have a bunch of 1st year paralegals down there making these decisions and drafting this shit up or what?

oh well. Life goes on.

Mike AI · 10-23-2003, 04:50 PM

There is more then 1 fink company.

Mr.Fiction · 10-23-2003, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

3. I've never purchased video content from anyone.

What about picture content?

Have you ever bought anything from Matrix?

Other people have accused them today on GFY. I have no idea, but there are several threads where people say that they think it's Matrix.

Also, some people have accused CE:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...=ST&f=1&t=6525

SetTheWorldonFire · 10-23-2003, 04:54 PM

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=189298

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

What about picture content?

Have you ever bought anything from Matrix?

Other people have accused them today on GFY. I have no idea, but there are several threads where people say that they think it's Matrix.

Also, some people have accused CE:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...=ST&f=1&t=6525

sure, I bought photo sets from them a few years ago.

pamphage · 10-23-2003, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

What about picture content?

Have you ever bought anything from Matrix?

Other people have accused them today on GFY. I have no idea, but there are several threads where people say that they think it's Matrix.

Also, some people have accused CE:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...=ST&f=1&t=6525

just my info to help the quest:

a) no letter yet
b) never bought matrix content
c) DO use cecash.

doober · 10-23-2003, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

4. I don't operate any sites, hence the lack of any urls in the letter to me.

actually noones letter had urls stipulated....

and for the record I beleive Mike AI to be correct

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-23-2003, 05:12 PM

These letter that everyone is getting. Are they coming with regular postage or are they certified/registerd mail?

If they are coming with regular postage they dont mean shit, you can chuck em.

SteveLightspeed · 10-23-2003, 05:12 PM

I think it was Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the candlestick!

sorry, just being silly.

Steve Lightspeed

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
These letter that everyone is getting. Are they coming with regular postage or are they certified/registerd mail?

If they are coming with regular postage they dont mean shit, you can chuck em.

nah, just regular. It's junk mail.

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-23-2003, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

nah, just regular. It's junk mail.

So, all these post, everyone is freaken out because of NON registerd mail. LOL

Once they start comin in as registerd mail, then you call your lawyers.

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray

So, all these post, everyone is freaken out because of NON registerd mail. LOL

Once they start comin in as registerd mail, then you call your lawyers.

basically yeah... I'm sure some of the people here have gotten legal mail from Acacia, but the bulk of it is still junk mail fishing for bites.

I'd just like to know where they got my info from is all, being that the info they have is odd.
other than that, I don't have many opinions on the whole thing because I'm not in the loop. I don't have sites.

pamphage · 10-23-2003, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
I think it was Colonel Mustard, in the library, with the candlestick!

sorry, just being silly.

Steve Lightspeed

you need to add miss scarlet to the lightspeed lineup

cluck · 10-23-2003, 05:26 PM

I thought it was determined yesterday that it's oxcash?

Ray@TastyDollars · 10-23-2003, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

junk mail fishing for bites.

Exactly!!

It remindes me of "Domain Registry Of Canada" letters Canadians are/were getting. They to are just "fishing for bites"

Peaches · 10-23-2003, 05:34 PM

I'd talk to a lawyer before I tossed something sent USPS.

I know when I've sued someone or done anything legal (a foreclosure, name change, etc.), putting something in the USPS mail with proper postage was all I was legally required to do. The only time it was ever sent certified or delivered in person was when it stated a required appearance in court.

Again - consult your attorney if you received this letter.

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Peaches
I'd talk to a lawyer before I tossed something sent USPS.

I know when I've sued someone or done anything legal (a foreclosure, name change, etc.), putting something in the USPS mail with proper postage was all I was legally required to do. The only time it was ever sent certified or delivered in person was when it stated a required appearance in court.

Again - consult your attorney if you received this letter.

good advice... and definately the smart thing to do for anyone that operates. In my case, even Forest Gump could no brain his way through my deal. No sites = no infringement. No matter how they try to twist it, linking to other sites or what have you. Whether the crap is legal or not.

doober · 10-23-2003, 05:49 PM

stop lying AMP, we all know you got a bazillion websites with video just ooozing out of them

MakeMeGrrrrowl · 10-23-2003, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober

actually noones letter had urls stipulated....

and for the record I beleive Mike AI to be correct

my URL's were not listed however I did call and find out what they are, AND although I have more sites than the five they had listed...each one they had listed was listed on a license agreement with matrix on 10/14

I did also find out that Matrix's license did not mention affiliates or clients, which doesn't mean that they gave information, but I do know my information was obtained from matrix's database somehow.

onlymovies · 10-23-2003, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Also, some people have accused CE:
http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/index...=ST&f=1&t=6525

Wow....good thread and very interesting.
Pretty convincing.

Fletch XXX · 10-23-2003, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MakeMeGrrrrowl

my URL's were not listed however I did call and find out what they are, AND although I have more sites than the five they had listed...each one they had listed was listed on a license agreement with matrix on 10/14

I did also find out that Matrix's license did not mention affiliates or clients, which doesn't mean that they gave information, but I do know my information was obtained from matrix's database somehow.

deja vu

GeXus · 10-23-2003, 06:12 PM

Hm.. The letter I got has a 9 digit zip code.. my zip code that I use 20855 and then 2427, I NEVER use the last 4 digits for anything.. not quite sure why it would be there...

Mr.Fiction · 10-23-2003, 06:14 PM

Matrix Content?
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=189346

doober · 10-23-2003, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by onlymovies

Wow....good thread and very interesting.
Pretty convincing.

its for sure theres more than one company selling everyone out here. Only the ones affected & researching it are finding out who the rats really are.
On that note they are probably getting leads from a few different avenues (including internal methods) and are just mass snail mail spamming to cast a large net and see what happens with callbacks and whatnot

SomeCreep · 10-23-2003, 06:15 PM

I think the butler did it

Serge_Oprano · 10-23-2003, 06:18 PM

you are ALL idiots!

I suck Lensman's cock and...
no package for me either!

Thank you Uncle Lensman for letting me suck your organ!

the best shield mouth can buy!@

RockDaddy · 10-23-2003, 06:18 PM

Quote:

just my info to help the quest:

a) no letter yet
b) never bought matrix content
c) DO use cecash.

ditto

goBigtime · 10-23-2003, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

very few people here on the island even know about this.

this most definately narrows the search.

ADDRESS CORRECTION REQUESTED.

They probably sent it to your old address (from a few years ago) and got the updated address from the post office. Everyone knows the post office never makes mistakes and always keeps things up to date. Especially when it comes to change of address forms/requests.

Anyway thats my

on the address glitch.

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime

ADDRESS CORRECTION REQUESTED.

They probably sent it to your old address (from a few years ago) and got the updated address from the post office. Everyone knows the post office never makes mistakes and always keeps things up to date. Especially when it comes to change of address forms/requests.

Anyway thats my on the address glitch.

not at all.... the mistakes they made (there are two of them) are very specific and pointed. And they contradict each other. It's not just a case of a wrong address or anything that simple.

Showlow · 10-23-2003, 06:28 PM

I got this shit mail today as well... I have note used this corporate name for years and I don't think I ever, or very rarely used it when signing up for affiliates... This corporate name is however the name my licenses are registered under with Matrix.... Obviously I can't say for certain, but I havn't done any adult work/signed up for sponsors/bought any content for two years... and I have only been at this address for 2.5 years. And Matrix has both this new address of mine + the corporate name....

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2003, 06:30 PM

Here's the deal....

the street addy they used is the original LEGAL street addy when the community was being developed some 20+ years ago. During that development, it was changed inside the community. LEGALLY it's still the original name.... if you were to look it up on the city's maps it would show the name they sent it to.

Now, I've never used that original name anywhere for any reason. It's not on my bank papers nor my mortgage papers nor anywhere else. How did they get it?

Here's the contradictory part....

Assuming they had my name and did some sort of legal lookup verification for the street addy, (the only place I can think of where they could've gotten it) the city they sent it to is NOT legal. We have no post office here. So if they did a lookup to get the original street addy, how could they possibly put the unofficial city on it at the same time?

Now.... back when I got the house, it's possible that I MAY have used that original street addy in one or maybe two places. But literally, one or two max.

I just can't think of where that could be.

GFED · 10-23-2003, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
I just can't think of where that could be.

Try this...

http://matrixcontent.com/lost.php

BigFish · 10-23-2003, 06:37 PM

how about this: Any one here ever bought content from Matrix in the past and did NOT receive the letter?

InsaneGreen · 10-23-2003, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Showlow
I got this shit mail today as well... I have note used this corporate name for years and I don't think I ever, or very rarely used it when signing up for affiliates... This corporate name is however the name my licenses are registered under with Matrix.... Obviously I can't say for certain, but I havn't done any adult work/signed up for sponsors/bought any content for two years... and I have only been at this address for 2.5 years. And Matrix has both this new address of mine + the corporate name....

Showlow
I am probably spamming

Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Posts: 1

it took you 14 months to make your first post?

post whore

Showlow · 10-23-2003, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen

Showlow
I am probably spamming

Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Posts: 1

it took you 14 months to make your first post?
post whore

haha, I like to think my posts through before I click the submit button ;-)

Peaches · 10-23-2003, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeXus
Hm.. The letter I got has a 9 digit zip code.. my zip code that I use 20855 and then 2427, I NEVER use the last 4 digits for anything.. not quite sure why it would be there...

Many mail programs add the +4 to the zip code based on a USPS datatbase according to your address. It's less expensive for mass mailers to mail to a +4 zip than just your regular zip.

10-23-2003, 04:15 PM	#1
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Tracking down the Acacia fink something very interesting I just noticed about my letter.... the address they sent it to. It doesn't add up. I always put my address the same way on everything, yet their letter is referencing something that was changed about the actual physical address back when the community was in development. very few people here on the island even know about this. this most definately narrows the search. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

10-23-2003, 04:17 PM	#2
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10-23-2003, 04:49 PM	#5
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	the things I know for certain: 1. I'm registered with most sponsors and providers, most of which I haven't logged into in well over a year. So going through each one to check my account info is impossible. I don't have the logins anymore. 2. The address they sent my package to is bizarre on two counts. They have legal info about it that virtually no one knows or could know, yet they screwed up on another part of it. 3. I've never purchased video content from anyone. 4. I don't operate any sites, hence the lack of any urls in the letter to me. where this leaves me? I'm utterly mystified. I have no fricken clue where they could have gotten my name AND this screwed up address from, nor how they came to justify sending me a letter. Not that I'm worried about it, because they've got nothing on me whatsoever..... but this is pretty damned bizarre. Do they have a bunch of 1st year paralegals down there making these decisions and drafting this shit up or what? oh well. Life goes on. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

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10-23-2003, 05:34 PM	#20
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	I'd talk to a lawyer before I tossed something sent USPS. I know when I've sued someone or done anything legal (a foreclosure, name change, etc.), putting something in the USPS mail with proper postage was all I was legally required to do. The only time it was ever sent certified or delivered in person was when it stated a required appearance in court. Again - consult your attorney if you received this letter.

10-23-2003, 05:49 PM	#22
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10-23-2003, 06:12 PM	#26
GeXus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Yo Mommas Pussy Posts: 3,320	Hm.. The letter I got has a 9 digit zip code.. my zip code that I use 20855 and then 2427, I NEVER use the last 4 digits for anything.. not quite sure why it would be there... __________________

10-23-2003, 06:14 PM	#27
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10-23-2003, 06:28 PM	#34
Showlow Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 8	I got this shit mail today as well... I have note used this corporate name for years and I don't think I ever, or very rarely used it when signing up for affiliates... This corporate name is however the name my licenses are registered under with Matrix.... Obviously I can't say for certain, but I havn't done any adult work/signed up for sponsors/bought any content for two years... and I have only been at this address for 2.5 years. And Matrix has both this new address of mine + the corporate name....

10-23-2003, 06:30 PM	#35
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Here's the deal.... the street addy they used is the original LEGAL street addy when the community was being developed some 20+ years ago. During that development, it was changed inside the community. LEGALLY it's still the original name.... if you were to look it up on the city's maps it would show the name they sent it to. Now, I've never used that original name anywhere for any reason. It's not on my bank papers nor my mortgage papers nor anywhere else. How did they get it? Here's the contradictory part.... Assuming they had my name and did some sort of legal lookup verification for the street addy, (the only place I can think of where they could've gotten it) the city they sent it to is NOT legal. We have no post office here. So if they did a lookup to get the original street addy, how could they possibly put the unofficial city on it at the same time? Now.... back when I got the house, it's possible that I MAY have used that original street addy in one or maybe two places. But literally, one or two max. I just can't think of where that could be. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

10-23-2003, 06:37 PM	#37
BigFish Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 1,159	how about this: Any one here ever bought content from Matrix in the past and did NOT receive the letter?