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Old 10-21-2003, 12:54 PM   #101
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Nope not drunk, he was prolly on the phone...
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Old 10-21-2003, 12:55 PM   #104
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Old 10-21-2003, 12:58 PM   #105
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i side with jupiter on this one. If he would have came up with a decent excuse Im sure they would have let him out of the contract. Business is business is pretty weak. People think they are michael corleone or tony montana or something.
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Old 10-21-2003, 12:58 PM   #106
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Old 10-21-2003, 12:59 PM   #107
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Ever me tthe BP4L crew? j/k guys!
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Old 10-21-2003, 12:59 PM   #108
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This board is made up of a bunch of idiots. Everyone jumps to Juicy's side because he posts funny pictures. You have to give an ounce of credit to Lensman because he has a broken contract and no explanation. I'm not saying that I'm on anyone's side but who gives a fuck about losing a board monkey? What are we here for?

Juicy, I don't have anything to say about you but I'll be asking for money up front if you want to buy traffic from me because you are setting a bad example here.
That's the point, you are asking someone to ignore a signed deal. A nice guy would do it, but only if they come clean. For god sakes, he might say that another host told him it was Cogent BW or some other load of crap.
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Yup... And the 10 people that are right near Ray that heard the phone call.

All that was asked of you want a reason. Saying Business is Business is not valid... If it were so then we could just say right back to you "Hey bro Business is Business" and make you pay out your contract. Think about what you are doing here bro. You have been using GFY as a tool to better yourself and your Business for quite some time. All that was ask for was a simple explaination... Shit happens to everyone and we understand that. But you can't expect us to just say fuck it and tear up every contract that we get that someone wants out of just cause they say they want out. Business is Business and it doesn't work that way.
I offered Ray compensation did I not??? I guess i didnt correct?

Rick no problems I have done plenty of business on this board and my money is good.
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:02 PM   #110
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Contracts suck...unless its to hook someone in for monthly payments and your on the receiving end...



why didnt you just pay as you go for your server juicy and eliminate the "contract" stuff?
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:03 PM   #112
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I offered Ray compensation did I not??? I guess i didnt correct?

Rick no problems I have done plenty of business on this board and my money is good.
Yeah right. Ray would turn away money to tear up the contract, he'd rather get nothing to tear it up?
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That's the point, you are asking someone to ignore a signed deal. A nice guy would do it, but only if they come clean. For god sakes, he might say that another host told him it was Cogent BW or some other load of crap.
Lensman is too correct on this one. Fuck I wouldn't have let anyone outta a signed contract, no matter what.
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This board is made up of a bunch of idiots. Everyone jumps to Juicy's side because he posts funny pictures. You have to give an ounce of credit to Lensman because he has a broken contract and no explanation. I'm not saying that I'm on anyone's side but who gives a fuck about losing a board monkey? What are we here for?

Juicy, I don't have anything to say about you but I'll be asking for money up front if you want to buy traffic from me because you are setting a bad example here.
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I don't bring this shit to the boards as we have serious business to do with serious webmasters, however, in light of your posts, I will add my two cents.

You signed a contract.

Wanted out with no explanation.

You called me and threatened physical violence against myself and my staff if we didn't "let you out of the contract". You never offered a dime to get out... choosing that a threat of violence was the "more effective" route.

With that said, and as I told you on the phone, consider your contract canceled. You owe us NO money. You are, however, placed on our internal blacklist. You won't be doing business with us again.

Have a nice day. bye bye
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:04 PM   #117
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Yeah right. Ray would turn away money to tear up the contract, he'd rather get nothing to tear it up?
Lensman believe it or not , I know you would side with your employess but I did offer money and yes Ray did not take it.

As god is my witness , and on my grandmothers grave, Believ me or not money was offered.
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:05 PM   #118
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Ohhh!

But why ban someone? Isn't the forum suppose to be neutral and everybody can say things freely, even he is your enemy?

Isn't that what this country is all about, and why I ran away from communist?

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One last thing..

I will let your little threat of violence slide. Do it again, and find out how that is handled in a "legal" manner.

You may have a baseball bat, but I have the best litigating attorneys a $250,000 retainer can buy.
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I will let your little threat of violence slide. Do it again, and find out how that is handled in a "legal" manner.

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Old 10-21-2003, 01:14 PM   #121
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Why do people feel compelled to air their dirty laundry in public? None of this seems to have any business being on a public message board.
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ban his ass. this board helps webmasters make money.

you lost cash from him. make him lose cash from you...

edit: i didnt mean to quote you...just reply
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One last thing..

I will let your little threat of violence slide. Do it again, and find out how that is handled in a "legal" manner.

You may have a baseball bat, but I have the best litigating attorneys a $250,000 retainer can buy.
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Wow, look at the views on this thread.

Anyways hopefully this gets resolved without fistfights or lawyers.



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Old 10-21-2003, 01:21 PM   #128
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Im sit 12ft from Ray - I didnt hear anything offered....
I didnt even know who that was on the phone at 1st! When I found out, I could not believe it!

I still LoVe me some Juicyyyyy though!
Well unless he had me on speaker , Only two people know what was actaully said ME and RAY so you guys can specualte what was said but only me and RAY know what actually happened
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:21 PM   #129
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So he broke the contract. Have you lost anything because of it? If you bought a new server or spent alot setting his shit up I'd say it'd be fair to charge him at least that cost and some extra. I don't really see what banning anyone on message boards has anything to do with it.

Of course legally adult.com has the upper hand, I personally would only charge him for the damages but you guys can really do whatever you want.
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This board is made up of a bunch of idiots. Everyone jumps to Juicy's side because he posts funny pictures. You have to give an ounce of credit to Lensman because he has a broken contract and no explanation. I'm not saying that I'm on anyone's side but who gives a fuck about losing a board monkey? What are we here for?

Juicy, I don't have anything to say about you but I'll be asking for money up front if you want to buy traffic from me because you are setting a bad example here.
Rick you benefit from the same goo old boy back slapping. Anytime JMM points out that your whole business is built on stealing other peoples contents, you make a joke, insult him, and the mob at GFY laughs....

The GFY Mob can go both ways....
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Whatever happened. You won't get banned. This business was behind this board and I am sure people have done worse than this. Whatever the facts are.
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:24 PM   #132
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Second this has nothing to do with beef with me and Lens or adult.com or even Jupiter Hosting.

This was just an issue with RAYS conversation and how he handled this. And RAY if I am lying about this may GOD strike me down right now and make me a cripple for the rest of my life so go on and keep on feeding more BS around the office. You know EXACTLY what i said to you and I know exactly what you said to me.
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So he broke the contract. Have you lost anything because of it? If you bought a new server or spent alot setting his shit up I'd say it'd be fair to charge him at least that cost and some extra. I don't really see what banning anyone on message boards has anything to do with it.

Of course legally adult.com has the upper hand, I personally would only charge him for the damages but you guys can really do whatever you want.
Server wasnt even built yet , would take aweek to setup it was just something that got blown out of proportion becasue I lose my temper when people talk and threaten me like i am there bitch
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Second this has nothing to do with beef with me and Lens or adult.com or even Jupiter Hosting.

This was just an issue with RAYS conversation and how he handled this. And RAY if I am lying about this may GOD strike me down right now and make me a cripple for the rest of my life so go on and keep on feeding more BS around the office. You know EXACTLY what i said to you and I know exactly what you said to me.
Bummer that conv. wasn't taped.
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Bummer that conv. wasn't taped.
Exactly. This story told us how important it is to get a recorder phone.

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I have to agree with Lens and Rick on some of the things they pointed out. Lens gives us this board to promote both our persona and our product. We all have different methods of getting them over. Juicy happens to use comedy as his.

People siding with Juicy for the simple reason he is Juicy is just wrong, he is a good friend and that's that.

But, judging by what has been said here Saying "Biz is Biz" and that's that is wrong. If Juicy did offer to pay a % back to Jupiter and call it a day that's cool.

A contract is a contract though and once it is signed both parties involved are expected to follow that contract.

I just find it crazy that a lot more people side with Juicy then Lens considering Juicy is a loved persona on here, and that Lens built the system that Juicy has put his persona over with.

It's a lose lose situation.
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:29 PM   #139
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whos hittin who with a bat? jesus, calm down, we have the best job in the world and u guys are wanting to hit eatch other with bats?
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I think a threat to take you to collections is a bit different than a threat to kick someones ass at the next show you see them at. One is a legal threat based on a signed contract, the other is illegal.

Juicy.. put a end to the confusion and tell us what was the threat Ray made to you.... legal collection?
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Jupiter Hosting (Poppy & Ray in particular) sorted something out for me when I was down and out. Contract or no contract they both did whatever they could to help me.

So Kudos to Jupiter here, From my dealings, Ray has ALWAYS been a stand up guy (When he was XFR), and has earned my business forevermore.

I understand different people have different situations, but I want to show my support to a crew that has treated me like a king.



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Who says Juicy is getting banned. Nothing he has done is a banable offence. So lets cut the don't ban juicy crap.
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I offered Ray compensation did I not??? I guess i didnt correct?

Rick no problems I have done plenty of business on this board and my money is good.
I doubt very seriously that you will listen....

Shut up....

It is not your style from what I read. You are an amusing personality...

Shut up and eat this one and just back off and stop thinking you are going to Rock Star out of this.... you will not...

Some influential people use this board as means to keep the fingers on the pulse....you have emerged as a recognized personality and that is commendable. Do not blow that in a frustrated rage.

You signed a contract Juicy that is it...even if Lens was wrong (which he is not) you signed the contract. If you get let off the hook you should kiss Lensmans Hairy beanbag over it.

You seem like a good guy who knows how to get the spot light do not fuck it up over something silly.

Now shut the fuck up and just ride the storm out...I do not know you personally but thought it would be cool to meet up and introduce myself and my team...

Learn from this one do not make it the hill to die on...because you will die on it.

People make mistakes bro....diplomacy is always the best route
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:36 PM   #146
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thats because you probably treated them in a professional manner, for some reason after seeing all the useless posts that juicy makes on a daily basis i find it hard to believe he acted in a professional manner. if someone called me up thretening to kick my ass when i didnt do anything wrong i wouldnt be as easy on them as they were on juicy.
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:38 PM   #147
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This is my last post on this matter and on GFY. Ray has given me a bad taste in my mouth and the company he represents.

Ray you know exactly what was said, and so on. I will leave it at that. I offered you some compensation but i guess you are too much of a big shot and had to use the line "You know who owns this company right?" to scare me in to rethinking. Yes Ray i do know Lens owns your company and this issue was between us and I was trying to do right. Well guys its been a pleasure but I am very dissapointed that people would jump to conclusions.

Lastly if you selling hosting, traffic, or dildos you do not threaten customers like you did me. I will leave it that. Myself and Ray know what happened evryone else can jump to conclusions based on what they heard. So long and farewell and good luck to everyone.

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Who said anything about banning? You did. If I hear anymore of this nonsense, we will need to silence it.
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I'm wondering what it was that made him want to tear up the contract?
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Old 10-21-2003, 01:42 PM   #150
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Who said anything about banning? You did. If I hear anymore of this nonsense, we will need to silence it.
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