Industry Response to Steve Easton/APIC - GoFuckYourself.com

reasonableness · 10-18-2003, 03:02 PM

Hello.

Many people have said that they support what Steve Easton does under APIC and many people have said that he is rude.

I have heard it said that Steve Easton and APIC are breaking the law in a number of ways.

I am looking for more information on ways that Steve Easton and APIC may have broken the law or done things that are illegal under civil law.

Just so you know where I am coming from, I think Copyright Infringement is bad, and people who infringe should be made to be accountable for their actions.

However, making accusations against people who hold licenses, and making accusations against people who have not infringed is over the line.

That's the problem with vigilantes.

So, I ask you, if you are of like mind, and would like to see Copyrights enforced in a reasonable way, instead of the vigilante bullying style that I have read many people perceive Steve Eason to follow, please post information here.

Conversely, if you'd like, you can ICQ me at 336189731 .

What I'm looking for here is information about bad things Steve Easton has done, mistakes he has made (he claims he never made any), lawsuits against Steve Easton or APIC, or emails that make incorrect claims.

Thank you,

Reasonableness

BRISK · 10-18-2003, 03:05 PM

Search GFY. There are some classic threads about this.

reasonableness · 10-18-2003, 03:06 PM

Oh, just to follow up.

If you stole pictures, and are angry that you were caught, or are angry at the way you were treated, I'm not interested in your opinion or viewpoint.

I'm interested in those who have been wronged through no bad action on their own part.

I believe that Steve Easton is right more than he is wrong, and he yells loudly and foolishly at bad people who are infringing. However, he also yells at the wrong people and make bad claims such that the potential and real harm from his actions may outweigh any benefit.

Thanks for your thoughts.

BradShaw · 10-18-2003, 03:07 PM

Steves heart is in the right place, but is mind is somewhere else.......... We used to support APIC, but his way with words make me look like a nun...........

reasonableness · 10-18-2003, 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Search GFY. There are some classic threads about this.

Hi Brisk.

Thanks for the suggestion, i've done that and read many of the threads real time over the last 2 years.

What I'm looking for now is to elicit responses from people who want to get involved in mitigating the effects of this bad behavior.

I'm also looking for people that are interested in working together in some sort of an industry coalition or group of some sort to reign in this bad behavior.

I don't recall seeing any tangible action taken by people, short of threats and complaints.

Thanks.

BRISK · 10-18-2003, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reasonableness

Hi Brisk.

Thanks for the suggestion, i've done that and read many of the threads real time over the last 2 years.

What I'm looking for now is to elicit responses from people who want to get involved in mitigating the effects of this bad behavior.

I'm also looking for people that are interested in working together in some sort of an industry coalition or group of some sort to reign in this bad behavior.

I don't recall seeing any tangible action taken by people, short of threats and complaints.

Thanks.

What behaviour is there to "reign in" anymore? Didn't Steve Easton shut down APIC?

reasonableness · 10-18-2003, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK

What behaviour is there to "reign in" anymore? Didn't Steve Easton shut down APIC?

See note from Kevin2 at the bottom of the second page of the thread at this URL:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagen umber=2

Who else has evidence that Steve Easton and his APIC Posse are back?

Oracle Porn · 10-18-2003, 04:00 PM

Steve Easton is the guy who pissed in the gfy boat?

reasonableness · 10-18-2003, 04:05 PM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn
Steve Easton is the guy who pissed in the gfy boat?

There are apparently 2 Steve Eastons in the adult internet industry.

One of them is apparently a crazy acting canadian porn model and/or photgrapher.

The other is apparently a person living in the US who people say acts as a vigilante and is unintelligent and who bullies people until they give in to his demands.

So, they are two different people. Some people say there is a Good Steve Easton and a Bad Steve Easton.

iamwedid · 10-18-2003, 04:10 PM

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he takes your money and then runs you over with his car!

Yeah there are two. You can fin dhte good Steve Easton over at PJ's.

doober · 10-18-2003, 05:07 PM

wheres diablo?

Webby · 10-18-2003, 06:12 PM

Who the fuck cares who Steve Easton or APIC is - I sure don't, but sure gonna stuff his spam emails down his throat and take him for the last 10cents in his pocket if I ever hear from him again.

The guy is an irresponsible asshole - this is a pity because what he "purports" to do is valid.

He needs to stick with taking some pics and leave the "smarter stuff" to the more competent.

Stud Money · 10-18-2003, 06:14 PM

From what i can gather Steve Easton had some good idealogies however his machiavellian approach to putting these ideas into practise left somewhat a lot to be desired

reasonableness · 10-18-2003, 06:37 PM

Thank you to the people who have so far sent me information and who have sent me copies of the emails that Steve EAston sent them involving threats and incorrect accusations.

Please message me if you have any other information.

Webby - I'd especially like for you to ICQ me at 336189731.

I'm also interested in hearing about the large number of content owners and or photographers who used to support/pay/encourage Steve Easton and no longer do so. I have received 2 responses, I understood one to say that they decided the guy was a "big jerk" and the other person, as I understand, stopped being associated with him due to fears for liability.

So, please ICQ me or post your information here.

Thanks!

10-18-2003, 03:02 PM	#1
reasonableness Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 22	Industry Response to Steve Easton/APIC Hello. Many people have said that they support what Steve Easton does under APIC and many people have said that he is rude. I have heard it said that Steve Easton and APIC are breaking the law in a number of ways. I am looking for more information on ways that Steve Easton and APIC may have broken the law or done things that are illegal under civil law. Just so you know where I am coming from, I think Copyright Infringement is bad, and people who infringe should be made to be accountable for their actions. However, making accusations against people who hold licenses, and making accusations against people who have not infringed is over the line. That's the problem with vigilantes. So, I ask you, if you are of like mind, and would like to see Copyrights enforced in a reasonable way, instead of the vigilante bullying style that I have read many people perceive Steve Eason to follow, please post information here. Conversely, if you'd like, you can ICQ me at 336189731 . What I'm looking for here is information about bad things Steve Easton has done, mistakes he has made (he claims he never made any), lawsuits against Steve Easton or APIC, or emails that make incorrect claims. Thank you, Reasonableness

10-18-2003, 03:05 PM	#2
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Search GFY. There are some classic threads about this. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

10-18-2003, 03:07 PM	#4
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Steves heart is in the right place, but is mind is somewhere else.......... We used to support APIC, but his way with words make me look like a nun........... __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-18-2003, 04:00 PM	#8
Oracle Porn Affiliate Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Icq: 94-399-723 Posts: 24,433	Steve Easton is the guy who pissed in the gfy boat? __________________

10-18-2003, 03:06 PM	#3
reasonableness Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 22	Oh, just to follow up. If you stole pictures, and are angry that you were caught, or are angry at the way you were treated, I'm not interested in your opinion or viewpoint. I'm interested in those who have been wronged through no bad action on their own part. I believe that Steve Easton is right more than he is wrong, and he yells loudly and foolishly at bad people who are infringing. However, he also yells at the wrong people and make bad claims such that the potential and real harm from his actions may outweigh any benefit. Thanks for your thoughts.

10-18-2003, 05:07 PM	#11
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	wheres diablo?

10-18-2003, 06:12 PM	#12
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Who the fuck cares who Steve Easton or APIC is - I sure don't, but sure gonna stuff his spam emails down his throat and take him for the last 10cents in his pocket if I ever hear from him again. The guy is an irresponsible asshole - this is a pity because what he "purports" to do is valid. He needs to stick with taking some pics and leave the "smarter stuff" to the more competent.

10-18-2003, 06:14 PM	#13
Stud Money So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between my monitor and my chair Posts: 3,214	From what i can gather Steve Easton had some good idealogies however his machiavellian approach to putting these ideas into practise left somewhat a lot to be desired

10-18-2003, 06:37 PM	#14
reasonableness Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 22	Thank you to the people who have so far sent me information and who have sent me copies of the emails that Steve EAston sent them involving threats and incorrect accusations. Please message me if you have any other information. Webby - I'd especially like for you to ICQ me at 336189731. I'm also interested in hearing about the large number of content owners and or photographers who used to support/pay/encourage Steve Easton and no longer do so. I have received 2 responses, I understood one to say that they decided the guy was a "big jerk" and the other person, as I understand, stopped being associated with him due to fears for liability. So, please ICQ me or post your information here. Thanks!