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Old 10-16-2003, 10:36 PM   #1
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Malaysia's prime minister has urged Muslims to unite against Jews

Now I don't normally stick my head into racist stuff cause I'm canadian and I don't buy into any of that crap, but when I saw this on the news tonight and looked into it and read this, I almost puked.

What the fuck is WRONG with these people?


http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/as...hir/index.html
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The core problem is Muslims detest the western style cultures of Jews and America.

There are 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world now and I don't see a solution on the horizon anytime soon since we detest their ways also.
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The core problem is Muslims detest the western style cultures of Jews and America.

There are 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world now and I don't see a solution on the horizon anytime soon since we detest their ways also.
We don't detest their ways...that's laughable.

I could care less what the average muslim is doing. However the little shits that seem to be causing most of the problems throughout this world is a different matter.
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There are 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world now and I don't see a solution on the horizon anytime soon since we detest their ways also.
Yes I dont' see any solution even past the horizon
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We don't detest their ways...that's laughable.

I could care less what the average muslim is doing. However the little shits that seem to be causing most of the problems throughout this world is a different matter.
thsi sums up the problem PERFECTLY.


we don't give a crap what they are doing - but they care about what we're doing.
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thsi sums up the problem PERFECTLY.


we don't give a crap what they are doing - but they care about what we're doing.
Correct, they are the ones running around driving themselves crazy and we just sit back and watch. Malaysians espesially are a very racist country, I used to go to Malaysia every year with my sport, (along with many other asian countries) and was always confronted with racism towords me from the locals. They just plain don't like us westerners at all.
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Now I don't normally stick my head into racist stuff cause I'm canadian
What does being Canadian have to do with being racist?
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Now I don't normally stick my head into racist stuff cause I'm canadian and I don't buy into any of that crap, but when I saw this on the news tonight and looked into it and read this, I almost puked.

What the fuck is WRONG with these people?


http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/as...hir/index.html
Mahathir is the most blatantly racist leader in all of South East Asia.
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Correct, they are the ones running around driving themselves crazy and we just sit back and watch. Malaysians espesially are a very racist country, I used to go to Malaysia every year with my sport, (along with many other asian countries) and was always confronted with racism towords me from the locals. They just plain don't like us westerners at all.
They acted like they fucking loved me when I was spending my money over there for 4 months. Funny shit...if a malay girl gets caught dating a westerner they have this secret police, sort of, that will haul them off to some jail. Mmmm, brings back memories of some of the finest pussy I ever had
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I look at it like this, it's 2003 already, if the majority of any population's people aren't shitting in toilets by now instead of on the ground then just go ahead and drop a fukkin bomb on 'em cause they are holdin us back as a species.
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They acted like they fucking loved me when I was spending my money over there for 4 months. Funny shit...if a malay girl gets caught dating a westerner they have this secret police, sort of, that will haul them off to some jail. Mmmm, brings back memories of some of the finest pussy I ever had
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What does being Canadian have to do with being racist?
It is literally against the law to be a racist in Canada. They have laws to prevent "hate speech".
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What does being Canadian have to do with being racist?
canadians are known world wide for being tolerant. sure there are racist bigots here, but as a national pride thing most canadians arn't all that racist.





(cept against americans when their dollar drops)
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The core problem is Muslims detest the western style cultures of Jews and America.

You mongoloids completely ignore the theological underpinnings of this whole issue.

This is a holy war, not because they hate the Gap and NSync.

This is about God. period.
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You mongoloids completely ignore the theological underpinnings of this whole issue.

This is a holy war, not because they hate the Gap and NSync.

This is about God. period.
the war is about me?
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You mongoloids completely ignore the theological underpinnings of this whole issue.

This is a holy war, not because they hate the Gap and NSync.

This is about God. period.
How many friends do you have that follow Islam?

I have a couple and I'll tell what they tell me and every other person who believes in that garbage says.

Its way more than just a religious issue.
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what did he say Jews are very powerful..? undeniable

Jews are enemies of Islam.. see history..

that theological interpretations of the Koran and suicide attacks are wrong? can't argue with that.

doesn't seem to me he's saying anything worse or more provocative than the general leading the hunt for Saddam

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Mahathir suggested new tactics for Muslims to vent their anger and frustration.

"Is there no other way than to ask our young people to blow themselves up and kill people and invite the massacre of more of our own people?" he asked.

"It cannot be that there is no other way. ... We must not antagonize everyone. We must win their hearts and minds."



Yes he calls for Islamic nations to unite, but I think he was also saying a little more than to just kill every jew in sight.
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Your God is a nothing God
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Your God is a nothing God
Is a mealy mouthed God
Is a weak arsed God
My God is a really tough God
Is a straight line God
Is a good ole boy
Your God drinks peach nectar
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DAAS

Bring it! Thor...god of thunder feel his wrath
Wooohoooo DAAS. Brings back fond memories.
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I probably shouldn't make posts in political threads...but fuck it.


If you read the entire article, even right-wing CNN empathizes with Mahathir a little by the bottom of the page. He is not encouraging or even endorsing violence; he is condemning it. He is faced with bringing a rational message to 1.3 billion people who have been taught by irrational interpretations of a religious book. Sound familiar?

If Mahathir was to support the Western world and Israel, he would succeed in nothing but "betraying" Muslims and breeding terrorism against him in his own country. Understand, thousands of years of extreme teaching and beliefs do not end with a political leader signing his name on a fucking piece of paper. If you take a person with limited education, and try to strip and remove from them the only thing they know, they will react accordingly. Islam stands for so much more than terrorism...it is the foundation of the Muslim society...why don't we get pissed off when the G8 meets and decides which countries pose as economic obstacles?

If you listen to Mahathir in context, his comments are not extreme. He is simply saying that it is important for all Muslims to stand behind each other, not neccessarily because Islam is the way to God, but because Islam stitches together the fabrics of 50 countries and 1.3 billion people. His comments are not a condemnation of Jews (I am Jewish, BTW) for becoming world leaders...he is outraged that his own religion, his own people, are disrespected on a global scale because of extreme actions based on extreme teachings by extreme religious leaders.

Mahathir is saying something to every young Muslim person in the world:

Look, the foundation of our beliefs are sound. However, nobody is ever going to stand for terrorism so stop the fucking terrorism, educate yourself and make a difference in a manner that can be respected by all. It takes a lot of balls to say what he said, not because it pisses off Western leaders, but because it contradicts religious leaders who have manipulated minds for thousands of years.

Now, let's see Dubya stand up and tell the brainwashed epople who elected him that their Book has been misinterpreted...that gay people have the right to live their lives, that our purpose on earth isn't to colonize non-believers, that a green leaf is not the foundation of all that is wrong with the world.


what the fuck do i know...i am a 22 year old NEWFIE quarter jew half breed irishman with enough scottish in me to kill any sense of humor i might have had


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If you read the entire article, even right-wing CNN empathizes with Mahathir a little by the bottom of the page. He is not encouraging or even endorsing violence; he is condemning it. He is faced with bringing a rational message to 1.3 billion people who have been taught by irrational interpretations of a religious book. Sound familiar?

If Mahathir was to support the Western world and Israel, he would succeed in nothing but "betraying" Muslims and breeding terrorism against him in his own country. Understand, thousands of years of extreme teaching and beliefs do not end with a political leader signing his name on a fucking piece of paper. If you take a person with limited education, and try to strip and remove from them the only thing they know, they will react accordingly. Islam stands for so much more than terrorism...it is the foundation of the Muslim society...why don't we get pissed off when the G8 meets and decides which countries pose as economic obstacles?

If you listen to Mahathir in context, his comments are not extreme. He is simply saying that it is important for all Muslims to stand behind each other, not neccessarily because Islam is the way to God, but because Islam stitches together the fabrics of 50 countries and 1.3 billion people. His comments are not a condemnation of Jews (I am Jewish, BTW) for becoming world leaders...he is outraged that his own religion, his own people, are disrespected on a global scale because of extreme actions based on extreme teachings by extreme religious leaders.

Mahathir is saying something to every young Muslim person in the world:

Look, the foundation of our beliefs are sound. However, nobody is ever going to stand for terrorism so stop the fucking terrorism, educate yourself and make a difference in a manner that can be respected by all. It takes a lot of balls to say what he said, not because it pisses off Western leaders, but because it contradicts religious leaders who have manipulated minds for thousands of years.

Now, let's see Dubya stand up and tell the brainwashed epople who elected him that their Book has been misinterpreted...that gay people have the right to live their lives, that our purpose on earth isn't to colonize non-believers, that a green leaf is not the foundation of all that is wrong with the world.


what the fuck do i know...i am a 22 year old NEWFIE quarter jew half breed irishman with enough scottish in me to kill any sense of humor i might have had


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you're right kid, you shouldn't post.

Here's what the prime minister said:
1."We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships for our defense. But because we are discouraged from learning of science and mathematics as giving us no merit for the afterlife, today we have no capacity to produce our own weapons for our defense. We have to buy our weapons from our detractors and enemies."

Now please, explain why malaysia and or other PEACEFUL muslim countries need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships?
Also, please explain who he means by "our detractors and enemies"

2. "Today we, the whole Muslim ummah (community) is treated with contempt and dishonor. Our religion is denigrated. Our holy places desecrated. Our countries are occupied. Our people starved and killed."

hmmm, in Bosnia when christians were fighting muslims, the US didn't say "Our religion is denigrated. Our holy places desecrated. Our countries are occupied. Our people starved and killed"
we said, the christians are wrong and we're going to put a stop to it.
The muslim scum of this world do not know right from wrong. They only know muslim from un-muslim.

3. "But is it true that we should do and can do nothing for ourselves? Is it true that 1.3 billion people can exert no power to save themselves from the humiliation and oppression inflicted on them by a much smaller enemy? Is there no other way than to ask our young people to blow themselves up and kill people and invite the massacre of more of our own people?"

ahhhh, can someone explain how 1.3 billion muslims are all being humiliated and oppressed at once and who is doing it?

4."We are actually very strong. 1.3 billion people cannot be simply wiped out. The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them."
Think how much easier it would be for muslims to wipe out the jews if those damned Americans weren't on their side.
get it yet sparky? they want to kill jews because they are jews. you go ahead and keep making excuses for savage murderers.

5. "We are up against a people who think. They survived 2000 years of pogroms not by hitting back but by thinking. They invented Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong,
Translation: God damn it! if the jews hadn't invented Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy we muslims could be out there persecuting them


you go on defending these savages right up until the day they kill you.
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if it was up to me jews and muslims would wipe each other off the map.

Then white people can finnaly take back the world from the jews. Then the only legitimate enemy left is the asians.
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BTW, nice article on your CEO.
his sig doesn't say CEO....
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oh my god - this is an eyeopener.
it totally shocks me how people here are trying to DEFEND this BIGOT and it isn't a joke................
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Not him, his boss ( Fayer it think). Article in the local paper here.
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Old 10-17-2003, 08:54 AM   #34
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I knew I should have kept my mouth shut but I can't stop now...


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you're right kid, you shouldn't post.

Here's what the prime minister said:
1."We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships for our defense. But because we are discouraged from learning of science and mathematics as giving us no merit for the afterlife, today we have no capacity to produce our own weapons for our defense. We have to buy our weapons from our detractors and enemies."

Now please, explain why malaysia and or other PEACEFUL muslim countries need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships?
Also, please explain who he means by "our detractors and enemies"


There are 1.3 billion people who see the Western world as a direct threat to their very existence. Whether that is a legitimate belief or not is for another thread...I don't want to go there. The fact is, they believe that they are being persecuted. Right now, their only defence against that persecution is suicide bombing and the occasional homemade rocket launcher which has as much of a chance at hitting it's target as Pedro in the 8th inning. (I wanted the BoSox to win...it was Grady's fault) Mahathir is saying that if they want to defend themselves, if that is really what they want to focus on as a people, then they are going about it the absolute wrong way. They are paying for instruments of war to defend their religion that prevents the manufacturing of instruments of war...they are living an oxymoron and it is a dead end road. Those countries need weapons because in this world in 2003, there are still military threats against sovereign nations and it would be ludicrous and plain stupid to not have defense mechanisms. If Bush IS after oil and money, and again, I am not taking a stand one way or the other in here, then the only way to protect the natural resources of the Middle East and ensure economic stability in the future is to defend your land with your blood.

Detractors are those who take away anything from anyone...in this case land, resources, way of life, etc... Enemies are those who detract by military force. It is as simple as that. Those enemies do not have to be American forces, they can be corrupt Saudi Arabian families keeping their own people in oppression through brainwashing by the Koran. British kings were enemies of their people also...it is a natural stage in global development for masses to revolt against their leaders.

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2. "Today we, the whole Muslim ummah (community) is treated with contempt and dishonor. Our religion is denigrated. Our holy places desecrated. Our countries are occupied. Our people starved and killed."

hmmm, in Bosnia when christians were fighting muslims, the US didn't say "Our religion is denigrated. Our holy places desecrated. Our countries are occupied. Our people starved and killed"
we said, the christians are wrong and we're going to put a stop to it.
The muslim scum of this world do not know right from wrong. They only know muslim from un-muslim.
He is trying to motivate a people who have no fucking education. The ONLY thing they know is religion...he isn't calling for a retaliation...simply a firm NO.

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3. "But is it true that we should do and can do nothing for ourselves? Is it true that 1.3 billion people can exert no power to save themselves from the humiliation and oppression inflicted on them by a much smaller enemy? Is there no other way than to ask our young people to blow themselves up and kill people and invite the massacre of more of our own people?"

ahhhh, can someone explain how 1.3 billion muslims are all being humiliated and oppressed at once and who is doing it?
The question is not whether or not they are being oppressed...the fact is, they feel oppressed. I can't believe you would highlight this quote...if you read what he is saying, it is blatantly a call to peace, not violence. Malaysia has never called for any racial prejudice...they have simply stood for equality...and being a Muslim country...it is logical progression for the fucking leader to stand for Muslims around the world.

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4."We are actually very strong. 1.3 billion people cannot be simply wiped out. The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million, but today the Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them."
Think how much easier it would be for muslims to wipe out the jews if those damned Americans weren't on their side.
get it yet sparky? they want to kill jews because they are jews. you go ahead and keep making excuses for savage murderers.
They don't want to kill the Jews...repeat...they don't want to kill the Jews. Yes, there are fanatics...not believing that there are fanatics is again, plain stupid...but Mahathir is not a fanatic. He is not calling for the killing of the Jews. Everytime a suicide bombing happens, Israel retaliates. Sometimes they launch a pre-emptive strike but it is usually retaliatory. Mahathir is saying, look, if we use our heads, not our dead bodies, then Israel will have to respond with their heads, not with bombs and maybe slowly this circle of rage and hurt and fear and rage and humiliation and death and mourning and rage can slowly reverse...

As for savage murderers...anyone who kills a defenceless person is a savage murderer. Suicide bombers are savage murderers but Ariel Sharon is also a savage murderer and it is foolish not to recognize that. You can corral Arafat, go after Hamas, but don't fucking bomb kids and moms and brothers and sisters in refugee camps playing in the streets.

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5. "We are up against a people who think. They survived 2000 years of pogroms not by hitting back but by thinking. They invented Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong,
Translation: God damn it! if the jews hadn't invented Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy we muslims could be out there persecuting them


you go on defending these savages right up until the day they kill you.

If the Jews (my personal ancestors) had not invented socialism, communism, human rights and democracy they would not be around to rant on forum boards. If Muslims do not also open their minds to logical thinking and divert from irrational religious ideals, they will never get the chance to rant on forum boards about the next fucked up global crisis.

Dude, it's a good thing I have the weekend to catch up....

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Old 10-17-2003, 08:55 AM   #35
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oh my god - this is an eyeopener.
it totally shocks me how people here are trying to DEFEND this BIGOT and it isn't a joke................
not sure if there's much sympathy around here....

Bali bombing just had it's forst year aniversay.... hmmm

very sad.. however let's just let it sit heh people

I think he's trying to find the good in people , and personally
I havn't read the transcript, but I'm sure as hell going
to have a look at what the ol' malay has to say....

not that I thinkl I'll find anything good, it's all between
the lines with this sorta charater..
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if it was up to me jews and muslims would wipe each other off the map.

Then white people can finnaly take back the world from the jews. Then the only legitimate enemy left is the asians.
Once the Australians get rid of their Natives, we can corner Asia...
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Why do people think that getting rid of some ethinic group would actually be good? Or even desirable or possible?

I think it´s just sick and stupid... wanting to get rid of something that you are AFRAID of because you simply can´t understand. Just my
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"We are actually very strong, 1.3 billion people cannot be simply wiped out. The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million. But today the Jews rule the world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them," he said.

Mahathir said this.. whoaa...

what a bitter and nasty man.. he's got no grasp except for a popular stance amongst fools.. This guy has no backbone .

Lets hope there's a politician after him with enough balls to not be a mouthpiece for the uneducated masses,,,

again.. very sad
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I think you should stick to that statment and conduct. You are in no position to share your views on any political subject without the risk of alienating half the board...

I don't really have any political views that will alienate anyone. Honestly, in my short time on this earth there is only one thing that makes me react...I hate seeing people die. I cannot and will not sacrifice my desire for peace for anything monetary or otherwise.

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Why do people think that getting rid of some ethinic group would actually be good? Or even desirable or possible?

I think it´s just sick and stupid... wanting to get rid of something that you are AFRAID of because you simply can´t understand. Just my
more and more I'm starting to think that getting rid of hard core extrimist muslims might be a good thing for this planet...........
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I don't really have any political views that will alienate anyone. Honestly, in my short time on this earth there is only one thing that makes me react...I hate seeing people die. I cannot and will not sacrifice my desire for peace for anything monetary or otherwise.

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so you just take the evil side in the hope of peace...

well that seems a little silly doesn't it ?
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more and more I'm starting to think that getting rid of hard core extrimist muslims might be a good thing for this planet...........
I have debated time and time again with my father how wrong it was for them to imprison japanes during world war 2...however I can see now with the heightened paranoia how something like this could easily happen again.

It would just take another big attack like 9/11 and I think we'll start seeing wholesale deportations.
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so you just take the evil side in the hope of peace...

well that seems a little silly doesn't it ?

I just think things get blown out of proportion...if the media's first reaction to this was to say, "Malaysian Prime Minister attacks Islamic religious leaders at summit" and went on to say that he believes that education is the answer to peace, not fanaticism (is that a word?) we would all have a different view on this......it is very hard to avoid subjective media.
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I just think things get blown out of proportion...if the media's first reaction to this was to say, "Malaysian Prime Minister attacks Islamic religious leaders at summit" and went on to say that he believes that education is the answer to peace, not fanaticism (is that a word?) we would all have a different view on this......it is very hard to avoid subjective media.
true....

bu seriously, have you ever seen anyone from that region even hint at being moderate , or even condemn terrorists to the point of calling them assholes or something... well nope.. they have no guts
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true....

bu seriously, have you ever seen anyone from that region even hint at being moderate , or even condemn terrorists to the point of calling them assholes or something... well nope.. they have no guts
"when you see a homelss person, remember, they may have the same shoe size as you"

Remember, telling a group of people with no military that their brothers and sisters and sons and daughters who are terrorists are assholes is kinda like writing a suicide note. I am sure there are millions of Muslims right now who are screaming for his head because of his direct attacks on religious leaders...sometimes, compromising in the present allows for major changes in the future and I don't know if I could call Mahathir somebody with no guts. He is not stupid, he knew this reaction would take place...I am sure his heart was fluttering as he said it.
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I knew I should have kept my mouth shut but I can't stop now...
nope, its good to let people know where you stand on muslim dreams of murder.

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There are 1.3 billion people who see the Western world as a direct threat to their very existence. Whether that is a legitimate belief or not is for another thread...I don't want to go there.
you don't want to go there because you can't intelligently support their "belief"
They see us as a theat because we evolve while they remain in the stone age. If you want the world to live in the stone age, your position on this subject becomes clear.


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The fact is, they believe that they are being persecuted. Right now, their only defence against that persecution is suicide bombing and the occasional homemade rocket launcher which has as much of a chance at hitting it's target as Pedro in the 8th inning.
who's they? because all the other liberals swear that "they" are only a small minority. this is obviously not the case. If they feel they need to arm themselves against us, I imagine one day we'll have to settle this.

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Mahathir is saying that if they want to defend themselves, if that is really what they want to focus on as a people, then they are going about it the absolute wrong way. They are paying for instruments of war to defend their religion that prevents the manufacturing of instruments of war...they are living an oxymoron and it is a dead end road.
wow, I'm curious. If christians felt the need to arm themselves to protect their religion, would you be defending them as strongly?
I'll bet not. liberals only want to root for the non-American side.

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Those countries need weapons because in this world in 2003, there are still military threats against sovereign nations and it would be ludicrous and plain stupid to not have defense mechanisms.
thats a good story if you live in fantasy land but he's advocating arming muslims for the war against the jews and the west. (that's you, dopey)

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If Bush IS after oil and money,
how old are you again? you musty have missed a lot in school.

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and again, I am not taking a stand one way or the other in here,
why would you ever not take sides when muslims want to arm their contries to protect themselves against non muslims? are you muslim? that would explain a lot.

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then the only way to protect the natural resources of the Middle East and ensure economic stability in the future is to defend your land with your blood.
really? is that how the peaceful countries of Qatar, saudi arabia, UAE, and others are doing it?

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Detractors are those who take away anything from anyone...in this case land, resources, way of life, etc... Enemies are those who detract by military force. It is as simple as that.
so then he just made a speech against people who don't exist? please.

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Those enemies do not have to be American forces, they can be corrupt Saudi Arabian families keeping their own people in oppression through brainwashing by the Koran. British kings were enemies of their people also...it is a natural stage in global development for masses to revolt against their leaders.
its so silly arguing with kids, I don't know why I do it.
look child, this speech was given *BY* a leader to 57 other *LEADERS* of the muslim world. your cute little "oppression" and "masses revolt" speech holds no water.

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He is trying to motivate a people who have no fucking education. The ONLY thing they know is religion...he isn't calling for a retaliation...simply a firm NO.
I guess if you *want* to say he isn't calling for a retaliation you can but it doesn't make it true.


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The question is not whether or not they are being oppressed...the fact is, they feel oppressed.
wow! the liberal mantra personified. they feel it so it must be true.
Guess what dopey? the killers we throw in jail *feel* oppressed too.

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I can't believe you would highlight this quote...if you read what he is saying, it is blatantly a call to peace, not violence.
come again, sparky?
"We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships"

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Malaysia has never called for any racial prejudice...
sure kid. all this is taken out of context. they LOVE the jews. thats why they want to arm against them.

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they have simply stood for equality...and being a Muslim country...it is logical progression for the fucking leader to stand for Muslims around the world.
so then, as a christian country, its ok for our president to stand for christianity around the world?
think hard on that answer liberal.


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They don't want to kill the Jews...repeat...they don't want to kill the Jews.
Yes they do...repeat...yes they do.
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Yes, there are fanatics...not believing that there are fanatics is again, plain stupid...but Mahathir is not a fanatic. He is not calling for the killing of the Jews.
yes he is and he's explaining that using suiside bombers is not the best way.

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Everytime a suicide bombing happens, Israel retaliates. Sometimes they launch a pre-emptive strike but it is usually retaliatory. Mahathir is saying, look, if we use our heads, not our dead bodies, then Israel will have to respond with their heads, not with bombs and maybe slowly this circle of rage and hurt and fear and rage and humiliation and death and mourning and rage can slowly reverse...
that's not what he said you idiot. he said, "We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships" so that we can kill jews more efficiantly than the current way of using suicide bombers.

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As for savage murderers...anyone who kills a defenceless person is a savage murderer. Suicide bombers are savage murderers but Ariel Sharon is also a savage murderer and it is foolish not to recognize that. You can corral Arafat, go after Hamas, but don't fucking bomb kids and moms and brothers and sisters in refugee camps playing in the streets.
wow, you've bought into the liberal "save the towel head" movement hook line and sinker.
There would be no killings in gaza or israel if there were no suicide bombers. if terrorists hide among the rabble in the refugee camps and the refugees allow it, fuck them. they are aiding and abedding terrorism.


you've got a lot to learn about life my boy.
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You're right on the mark.




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I look at it like this, it's 2003 already, if the majority of any population's people aren't shitting in toilets by now instead of on the ground then just go ahead and drop a fukkin bomb on 'em cause they are holdin us back as a species.
In a very sadistic way , this post rings the bells of truth vigorously.
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