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Old 10-16-2003, 04:24 AM   #1
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PIBCash is spamming its webmasters!

Just got a spam mail for ToniFreeland.com and naturally, as I sometimes promote it and PIBCash, I proceeded to check it out.

At the bottom of the e-mail I can find this:

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You have recieved this offer because you signed up for Hot XXX Mail.
If you'd like to stop recieving these free promotions, go here.
It may take 24-48 hours before you are removed from our database.
So I clicked the "here" link and went to http://www.hotxxxmail.com. Just a splash page and textbox. So I did a whois on the domain and to my surprise, it seems to be registered to PIBCash!

Domain: hotxxxmail.com

Registrant (SATI35-IYD-REG)
Syndicated Audio Text Inc.
Syndicated Audio Text Inc.
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P.O. Box 10872
Burke, VA 22009 US
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Domain: pibcash.com

Registrant (SATI32-IYD-REG)
Syndicated Audio Text Inc.
Syndicated Audio Text Inc.
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P.O. Box 10872
Burke, VA 22009 US
+1.7039891518


My PIBCash links are going down. Not that I've ever made any sales with them, but hell, maybe I did and I never knew it? Seems anything is possible.
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Old 10-16-2003, 04:32 AM   #2
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OMG !! Adult Sponsor spamming it's webmasters ??
No, this cant be !!
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Old 10-16-2003, 04:50 AM   #3
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What is the world coming to.
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Old 10-16-2003, 04:55 AM   #4
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They didn't spam me and I am one of their webmasters.
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Old 10-16-2003, 06:21 AM   #5
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OMG !! Adult Sponsor spamming it's webmasters ??
No, this cant be !!
They're not spamming their affiliate program, that would've been ok. They're spamming their SITES.
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I agree with DamageX.

If I ever got an email from one of my sponsors for one of their sites, I'd think that sponsor was retarded...prolly unlist em too, if I wasn't making any money from them (would've done it anyway)



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Contact me on ICQ or E-mail and foward me a copy of the e-mail and we will investigate it. PIBCash has a zero tolerence on spamming, and we do not spam in any shape or form.
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They're not spamming their affiliate program, that would've been ok. They're spamming their SITES.

I thought they all spammed their sites.
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Old 10-16-2003, 08:02 AM   #9
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LOL... smart move PibCash.

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Contact me on ICQ or E-mail and foward me a copy of the e-mail and we will investigate it. PIBCash has a zero tolerence on spamming, and we do not spam in any shape or form.
It came from one of YOUR domains, thus it was initiated by you. This zero tolerance on spamming is a crock of shit and you only say it because not even you are stupid enough to admit that you actually condone spam. If I contact you on ICQ and give you the address to which I was spammed, will you sell it to someone else as a verified, active address? No thanks.
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PIB can spam me as long as they keep covnverting the way they have in the last few weeks!


Just Show me the $$$$!!!!
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They didn't spam me and I am one of their webmasters.
That's because you did not enter into PIBCash's double opt in program that is located on the bottom front tour page of every PIBCash site. Looks like somebody else did.
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That's because you did not enter into PIBCash's double opt in program that is located on the bottom front tour page of every PIBCash site. Looks like somebody else did.
You're full of shit and you know it. There is NO WAY IN HELL I would EVER submit my webmaster address to any site that is not related to my adult webmastering. Any webmaster with his head out of his ass knows this. And an opt-in e-mail list that sends me paysite offers is NOT related to my adult webmastering, no matter how you turn it around. Furthermore, I know far too well how most mailing lists work, so I wouldn't even submit a Hotmail addy to any of'em.

However, I did use my webmaster address when signing up for PIBCash, and if that also got me subscribed to your opt-in list, I sure as hell didn't see that in your TOS. I got spammed with your shit WITHOUT my consent, if that's double opt-in then you got some major issues with your English.
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You're full of shit and you know it. There is NO WAY IN HELL I would EVER submit my webmaster address to any site that is not related to my adult webmastering. Any webmaster with his head out of his ass knows this. And an opt-in e-mail list that sends me paysite offers is NOT related to my adult webmastering, no matter how you turn it around. Furthermore, I know far too well how most mailing lists work, so I wouldn't even submit a Hotmail addy to any of'em.

However, I did use my webmaster address when signing up for PIBCash, and if that also got me subscribed to your opt-in list, I sure as hell didn't see that in your TOS. I got spammed with your shit WITHOUT my consent, if that's double opt-in then you got some major issues with your English.


step away from the computer and breathe...then re-read his post...slowly..
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You're full of shit and you know it. There is NO WAY IN HELL I would EVER submit my webmaster address to any site that is not related to my adult webmastering. Any webmaster with his head out of his ass knows this. And an opt-in e-mail list that sends me paysite offers is NOT related to my adult webmastering, no matter how you turn it around. Furthermore, I know far too well how most mailing lists work, so I wouldn't even submit a Hotmail addy to any of'em.

However, I did use my webmaster address when signing up for PIBCash, and if that also got me subscribed to your opt-in list, I sure as hell didn't see that in your TOS. I got spammed with your shit WITHOUT my consent, if that's double opt-in then you got some major issues with your English.
OK...Whatever helps you sleep at night. You and I have had our problems before and you have always proven yourself to be the kind of person who can never accept when they are mistaken...This time is no exception.

I have 3 questions for you.....

1: If we are spamming our affiliates then how come none of our other affiliates are claiming that we spammed them too?

No need to answer as I already know why. It's a double opt in list. Nothing more, nothing less.

2: Since you do not like me, and never have...And since "Not that I've ever made any sales with them, but hell, maybe I did and I never knew it?"...Why are you pushing my site in the first place?

3: From your post above.... "Seems anything is possible." Then perhaps it's possible that you are posting these messages on MULTIPLE boards just to fuck with PIBCash.

Thank you for the publicity.

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spam isnt new.

if you dont like it, delete it. dont be a fucking baby.

PIBCash is good people. and if you dont think so. i know some folks that will knock you on your ass about if youd like to discuss it more.
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OK...Whatever helps you sleep at night. You and I have had our problems before and you have always proven yourself to be the kind of person who can never accept when they are mistaken...This time is no exception.
We've had a difference of opinion ONCE. You misunderstood something and the next thing I know I'm on your ignore list. I believe I have apologized about the misunderstanding, if you never got it due to the ignore, then tough luck. You did prove really mature, though. As you do now.

You're saying no other webmasters got the spam? Well, I know at least one, and several have replied to my thread about this on AWI, saying they got spammed by you too. Well, you know where you can stick your "true double opt-in list".

As for the publicity, again, you're welcome. I trust the webmasters to draw their own logical conclusions.
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You're saying no other webmasters got the spam? Well, I know at least one, and several have replied to my thread about this on AWI, saying they got spammed by you too. Well, you know where you can stick your "true double opt-in list".
Sure, we can let the webmasters draw their own conclusions on who is lying and who is not.

Below is the AWI thread where ONE person said they posted about this to PIB. That same person also said that they had just purchased the domain that received the email. They also went to PIB on the 10th and posted about their concern and then came back with this reply:

"Six pack has sorted this out really fast - thanks for that

I'm a bit touchy about spam at the moment. I've got around 450 domains, and 200 of them go into this one box, virtually all were dropped domains as well. Some spammers send multiple messages, and most are obviously generated names. AOL's amateur mail bouncer that is sending mail to the wrong addresses also makes things worse.

I'm about to switch to text only mail readers for most boxes, so that should improve things.

Sorry guys if I went about this the wrong way, and all credit to PiB for such a fast response"


Nobody has backed your story.

Here is the proof from AWI.

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...threadid=59463


Please...Call me a liar again...And this time...Post proof.
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Cool. You're one perfectly truthful person. I can live with that. The question still remains, if I didn't sign up for your spam list, then how come my webmaster e-mail address is on that list? I have already stated that THE ONLY purpose of that address is for other people to contact me about webmastering issues. Why, in God's name, would I ever sign up for spam list using it? It's not like I don't already get a shitload of spam from "honest" sponsors to it, why would I WILLINGLY sign up for even more spam? You find out how my webmaster address got on that list, tell me all about it, and if it was an honest mistake, I can live with that, nobody is more than human. And I'll be the first to apologize.
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Cool. You're one perfectly truthful person. I can live with that. The question still remains, if I didn't sign up for your spam list, then how come my webmaster e-mail address is on that list? I have already stated that THE ONLY purpose of that address is for other people to contact me about webmastering issues. Why, in God's name, would I ever sign up for spam list using it? It's not like I don't already get a shitload of spam from "honest" sponsors to it, why would I WILLINGLY sign up for even more spam? You find out how my webmaster address got on that list, tell me all about it, and if it was an honest mistake, I can live with that, nobody is more than human. And I'll be the first to apologize.
Fair enough....K-Rock has offered to help you figure that out. Get him or SixPack your email addy and we can check into it.
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spam isnt new.

if you dont like it, delete it. dont be a fucking baby.

PIBCash is good people. and if you dont think so. i know some folks that will knock you on your ass about if youd like to discuss it more.
Is that a threat pussy boy?
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spam isnt new.

if you dont like it, delete it. dont be a fucking baby.

PIBCash is good people. and if you dont think so. i know some folks that will knock you on your ass about if youd like to discuss it more.
ahahahahahahahahahahahah

omg that is fuckin funny

the knock on the ass part is killin me
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Fair enough....K-Rock has offered to help you figure that out. Get him or SixPack your email addy and we can check into it.
E-mailed K-Rock about it.
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Just to throw a spanner in the works, I received an email from [email protected] advertising an exit broker.

The email address it was sent to has the domain of an obscure/experimental TGP. This email has never been used for signing up for any program, or sending outbound mail. It is not listed on my webmaster trade page either.

How did pib get it and why are they sending email to an address that is not signed up to their program?
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Just to throw a spanner in the works, I received an email from [email protected] advertising an exit broker.

The email address it was sent to has the domain of an obscure/experimental TGP. This email has never been used for signing up for any program, or sending outbound mail. It is not listed on my webmaster trade page either.

How did pib get it and why are they sending email to an address that is not signed up to their program?
I got the same mail to an address that I never signed up to any sponsors or webmaster boards with
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Just to throw a spanner in the works, I received an email from [email protected] advertising an exit broker.

The email address it was sent to has the domain of an obscure/experimental TGP. This email has never been used for signing up for any program, or sending outbound mail. It is not listed on my webmaster trade page either.

How did pib get it and why are they sending email to an address that is not signed up to their program?

Good question. That is SixPack's email addy. Perhaps you have done business with him in the past while he was with another company?
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Aaron i do understand your position, but when they do not spam then how commes that i get a e-mail from [email protected]



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The only place i did sign up was on the Board so no connection to their PIB Cash at all.
If i do sign up to a board i do aggree to get info related to the Board but not from a other Program.
Btw i did hit the unsubscribe link.
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Aaron i do understand your position, but when they do not spam then how commes that i get a e-mail from [email protected]

Read my reply above your post.

And for the record....I was stating that the specific list that was initially mentioned in this thread was a double opt in list. The email you are referring may be another story.
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Aaron just did check again and i can't recall to have ever made a deal with SixPac, also i did check regarding my addy i did use for the sign up on PIB Board and it's not the one i received this mail regarding Exit King.

So how do they collect the e-mail addresses the send their mail out ? do they buy some list's, are they scanning all the sites for e-mail addresses ?

You do understand that if i get an e-mail from a comp. to which i NEVER gave out my e-mail address i regard that as SPAM.
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Still waiting for the clarification about how my webmaster e-mail got in that double opt-in list of yours.
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Still waiting for the clarification about how my webmaster e-mail got in that double opt-in list of yours.

Good for you.
You want some cheese with your whine?
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Good for you.
You want some cheese with your whine?
You sure you can afford it? I mean, after all, if you have to spam webmasters with your sites, in hope of making a signup, then you must be having mad cash-flow problems.
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Old 10-18-2003, 07:32 AM   #35
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I get spam like flies on horse shit all day long. Just delete it move on, whats the big deal. Lets say they spammed big deal. I would never deal with a program that spammed me.
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Old 10-18-2003, 09:31 AM   #36
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I guess that part at the top is confusing to some. This is news from PibCash about our New Program. Exitking, it is one of Our programs, and we emailed all webmasters that have signed up for our board, pibcash, and exitking as these are all part of the same company. Sorry if there was some or any confustion about why you may have recieved this,
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Old 10-18-2003, 09:32 AM   #37
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You sure you can afford it? I mean, after all, if you have to spam webmasters with your sites, in hope of making a signup, then you must be having mad cash-flow problems.
You know....When most people bitch about something and we offer to help them get it taken care of...They co-operate. You on the other hand do not. The email addy you sent K-Rock is NOT in our system and when he asked you to forward him a copy of what you received, you failed.

Me thinks you are full of shit.

Now what?
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:33 AM   #38
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Me thinks you are full of shit.

Now what?
Just because you are full of shit, doesn't mean everyone else is. Anyway, I'll consider this matter resolved, as you people are obviously too incompetent to keep your shit together. Over and out.
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:35 AM   #39
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Old 10-18-2003, 10:52 AM   #40
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Just because you are full of shit, doesn't mean everyone else is. Anyway, I'll consider this matter resolved, as you people are obviously too incompetent to keep your shit together. Over and out.
I am full of shit? I have already proved that you have lied in this thread. You have been asked to provide us with what we need to get this resolved and you refused to do so. This is your issue.

Look to the top of this page and take note of the name of this board.

The next time you decide come at PIBCash or myself, have some proof and be willing to back up your mouth.
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Old 10-18-2003, 12:44 PM   #41
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I guess that part at the top is confusing to some. This is news from PibCash about our New Program. Exitking, it is one of Our programs, and we emailed all webmasters that have signed up for our board, pibcash, and exitking as these are all part of the same company. Sorry if there was some or any confustion about why you may have recieved this,
SixPack I don't belive you if it would have been as you say then Why did i get that mail to a adderss i did NOT use for the sign up on the PIB Board ???
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