The US being the single largest contributor to the UN...financially and in every other way is a fact. In Webby World the people just are not very bright. All must be related to Centurion and suffer the same comprehension problem.

Get over it...the US is the most important country on the earth in every way...and if the US goes down the world will suffer the consequences.

I will answer the question...as it is an easy answer...if you are speaking of a military fighting force. The US military can defeat...with relative ease...any military force that confronts it.

*cough*
"In 1983, the Reagan administration approved the sale of 60 Hughes helicopters to Iraq in 1983 ?for civilian use?. However, as Phythian pointed out, these aircraft could be ?weaponised? within hours of delivery. Then US Secretary of State George Schultz and commerce secretary George Baldridge also lobbied for the delivery of Bell helicopters equipped for ?crop spraying?. It is believed that US-supplied choppers were used in the 1988 chemical attack on the Kurdish village of Halabja, which killed 5000 people. "

AND the US..

Australia too hopefully.. we'd better get something out of this.

theKing:

Can you explain this... precisely??? Source??? :1orglaugh

How come you have *some* sense of balance on the odd occasion when the "selective reading" does not kick in???

Na... please don't tell me "and in every other way is a fact" - that is one thing which is totally untrue. The US did not even play ball in the club for YEARS - What you talking about????

Na.. forget it - just pay the membership and send someone now and again when you don't actually want bailing out :1orglaugh

The UN is basically a cluster fuck. As a professional soldier...I took an oath to obey orders...but there always was one order that I knew I would not obey and fortunately I was never put to the fire. I would have refused to wear the blue of the UN...as several American soldiers have done. The UN is a debating society and not much more.

Unless they still owe us for the Helicopters how is this pertinate to my post about the debt owed to Russia, France, and Germany?

*splutter*

On the 9th Sept with the support of the US, the democratically elected President of Chile was deposed and replaced with a military dicatorship under General Pinoche.

General Pinoche, together with numerous others was trained by the US at the School of the Americas and equipped with weaponary by the US.

Many of those trained at the School of the Americas achieved fame in allegations/prosections in many countries ranging from war crimes to genicide. Several of those now live within the US with protection from the government.

Following the deposing of the elected president, there were many thousands interned and many more found mutilated throughout the country. This reign of terror lasted many years with continued support from the US government.

The US it is claimed is a country under God. I question this since I have never been fortunate enough in visits to many countries affected by the US to have seen the face of this "US God".

On the anniversay of the Twin Towers, it is worth giving some thought to the 9th September 1973 when the US knowingly and with full support, combined with a terrorist dictator and was involved with the mass killings and torture of many thousands while US representatives were present to witness this.

The UN basically does not do anything...anywhere in the world...without US dollars and/or transport...sea...air or land being involved.

because you seem to be completely in denial that the US contributed at all to Saddam Hussein's arsenal.

theKing:

I know this stupid!! :1orglaugh You are of course correct - least according to you.

That's why they are in more places throughout the globe than the US knew ever existed. And.. somehow they still managed to do this even when the US (who??) was out of the room :1orglaugh

BTW... I'm still waiting for a PRECISE answer!
:1orglaugh But I won't bother!

You left off the inderect sale of some cluster bombs during the Iraq/Iran war...but I will suggest to you that the sale of a few helicopters and bombs do not the fourth largest standing Army in the world make...which is what the Iraqi Army was in the '91 conflict.

I am sure the post made sense to you. :1orglaugh

I am still waiting for the specifics of how the UN is going to "bail" the US out of Iraq?

Did you have a point?

Wow. You must have been the only person in the world to get that right. How very special.

theKing:

In addition to supplying the military dictatorship of Chile with arms, the US also armed Osama bin Laden, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and hell - many countries in Central and South America and several in Asia.

These have proven over time to be an indictment of this "land of freedom" and "values" under "God". I can't see any sign of adopting some moral highground on *anything* - but of course, some will have "selective thinking".


PS Tho I am sure that being the majority arms trader in the world has assisted the US to gain it's questionable "power" and provided some cookies when thanking God for the food on the table.

and a whole bunch of anthrax and botulinum

theKing:

There is no answer to that.

The point is in the text.

If you still have no comprehension, I would glady introduce you to some "victims" of the US who would, if you spewed your crap out to them, - there is little hope you would live that night.

Sleep well in pampered land!

GFY is not the world...but there are posters from all around the world...and I was one of two or three that got it right. Most said there would be years of urban fighting...with thousands and thousands of American soldiers being killed in the urban fighting. I said there would be little...if any urban fighting...and what urban fighting there would be...would not be the type of urban fighting of old.

100 crop dusters

Without correcting your half truths...I have repeatedly stated that the US government does what it has always done and that is to act in its own perceived best interest. If there are mistakes made (and there have been) then so be it. If there are unforseen and/or unfortunate consequences (and there have been) then so be it. The US has never worn a white hat...but does wear a gray hat...some such as yourself apparently believe the US wears a black hat and joins in the feelings of the muslim world that the US is the great Satan.

The US...because of its policies...domestic and foreign...has become the richest most powerful country the world has ever known. If you and others in the world do not like that...then so be it. It is something that you and others in the world have to live with...like it or not and all of your pissing and crying about it will not change it.

theKing:

Yes indeed.. this is one thing you have said many times and I agree with you.

It is a pity the US government does this since it causes much hardship and death to others in the process. There is no "achievement" of "credit" to the US in this behavior. Hence, it is a rogue state, fractionally better than any rogue state.

And.. please correct *any* half truths you find - I am willing to be corrected on any issue. But I noticed you avoid this... why???

theKing:

Shit.. got to waste time replying to that crap!

If that is the basis on which the US has "become the richest most powerful country the world", I would :throwup .

Sadly, I know this to be true since I have met a few now who know the benevolence of the US. Oddly, this has never been to their advantage. I can't understand why they think the US is greedy and arrogant - it might be because they have seen more than me tho.

Off to bed with ya and have a good full US breakfast in the morning and .. well.. just give a passing thought to those who are starving as a direct result of US messing.

I do not condone...all that the US has done in the past...and I am sure that I will not condone all that it will do in the future. I have chosen not to become a political activist...so I have one role and only one role in the changing of my countries policies...should I disagree with a given policy...and that is as one man...one vote. I complain to my Congressman more frequently than his staff prefers...I am sure...I try to keep myself informed...and I excercise my power of the vote...city wise...county wise...state wise and national wise. Having said that...I would not choose to be any other than an American.

I have corrected so many half truths...or BS in so many threads that I am simply tired of repeating most of the same over and over...and it does not do any good anyhow...because haters are subjective...and have an agenda that will not be swayed. I on the other hand do not have an agenda other than to have as much objectivity as I can muster and try to defend against what are half truths...and total BS. Am I sometimes mistaken in my defense...yes...and readily admit it when it is pointed out to me.

theKing:

First... despite my "attitude", I am not a "hater". Tho I do despise total assholes and "greed merchants" who have no comprehension of anything other than that which affects their daily lives. Gas is at what price just now??

As for "half truths"... there are none in my post.

The content of the post is very widely known - and acknowledged by the US. There is nothing more to say, is there???

As for the Chile thing... that is just one example of many. The track record of the US is an embarassment to the world. There is nothing more to say about that either - unless you get to the level of denying that - kinda the same as the holocaust never happened.

And you use the term "hater".... sad.... that is the term they always use as some form of attack. Gimme a break!!

theKing:

THE US SOLD WEAPONARY TO IRAQ - Get it???

Forget your dual use shit and excuses :1orglaugh

There were many types of materials sold to Iraq by private enterprise that could be used for dual purpose. When the government eventually learned what was being sold to Iraq and some of the uses that Iraq was using the materials for...private enterprise was proscribed from certain sales...but even then a few companies continued to sell proscribed goods and some were punished for this.

theKing:

This is funny!!! This honorable government which supplied arms for profit, all of a sudden realises it may be providing "dual use" material????

Your "other enemy" - Iran, was being supplied with weapons within the last three years by your government.

Hell.. the arms fair in Iran was clogged up with US companies trying to sell arms. The organiser, when asked about this says, "If there is a profit in it, we can always rely on the US having stands here."

DUAL USE???? What ya talking about??? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Name a single "weapon" that the US government...or private enterprise sold to Iraq. Helicopters were sold...but not as a weapon platform...some cluster bombs were sold...indirectly...and cluster bombs are a weapon...but even they were not sold on any large scale.

No tanks...no fighter aircraft...no artillary...no missiles...no small arms...so please name the "weapons".

What is "sad"...is yours...and others...obsession with my country...and the daily hate filled "attack" on my country.

Oh.. and I missed Israel off the list!!

You can thank them for more killings with your weaponary.

I find it odd there is an objection from the US to "suicide bombers", - can't understand this when you eat based on a substantial income from arms and "suicide bombers" resort to killing themselves and others because they do not have some of that fine weaponary.

Mmmm.. A nation of the righteous and under God.

Peace to ya.. I'm off!!

theKing;

SAD!!!!

Was there some "half truth" in my post again???? If so, please don't hestitate to clear that up.... I'm all ears.

Sort your own back yard out and stop whining about the "they hate us" (Why????) and trying to defend some corrupt and greedy rogue regime. Get real and start with *some* facts

Off!

I see...you can not name a single weapon...as I expected. Half truths...BS and hatred of the US is all you are about.

theKing:

DUH???? Got to bed!!

You supply in the region of 7 BILLION alone in arms to Israel.. what the fuck does it matter what model of bombs you supply? Ask the Pentagon!

FYI...Israel does not=Iraq. Webby that has an obession with...a hatred for...the US based upon half truths...BS and the fantasy world of Webby Land.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I just read all of these posts. They are all basically trying to reason with the unreasonable.

The moral of my story is: If you live in a nation of freedom, be grateful instead of pointing out the negative about it. Our generations are spoiled, greedy and selfish. Most of us do not know what TRUE sacrifice and injustice is.

I am sick of hearing people bitch and look for conspiracies and harp on every minor detail. If Bush wasn't in office, they'd be bitching about someone else. People are sickening with their ability to ridicule every little thing, yet completely ignore the positive in anything. Yeah things could be better in the US but hell, look around you, they could be a lot worse. Be thankful for what you DO have, instead of always trying to perfect something that is only to your selfish desires.

Countries complaining about what the US does or doesn't do. Fuck you! Lets talk about what some place like Colombia does and doesn't do. For Christ sakes, how dare anybody compare Bush to Hitler.

Bitch bitch bitch... like a bunch of cackling hens. Every country and leader has faults, but not every country has all the greatness America has. Just be thankful for a MOMENT.

Blame Bush for the economy. Sure ok. Every President blows money on shit we don't need. But some just replace it with higher taxes. No administration creates jobs. Unless they are hiring janitors in the White House, the ecomony relies on America's corporation. You want to sit on your ass and bitch about the economy? Go to Congress and lobby to outlaw the major corporations sending work across the oceans. Major corporations line the pockets of EVERY President and every political party. They are ALL guilty. Fuckin fight to keep jobs in this country and hold the right people responsible, the CEOs that fuck over the innocent investors. BLAME THEM and if you want jobs in the US, fight for them. I don't see anyone boycotting companies that hurt this economy, yet want to impeach the President. I guess it's easier to blame someone else for your mistakes.

Want the US economy to get better? Do something about it, instead of just bitching or shut the fuck up. http://www.ameritrade.com ...Take the link with you.

/end rant

Israel is an ally...and there is a reason (sinister as it is) we keep them well armed and have allowed them to develop...if not actually supplied them with Nukes.

Ah...I can retire from the field now. Furious_Female is here.
:thumbsup

lol Just think of me as the UN. You took care of it yourself, I'm just here to take the credit in the end. :1orglaugh