Halliburton Gouging US Taxpayers - GoFuckYourself.com

KRL · 10-16-2003, 03:17 AM

What a way to make money. US Taxpayers are paying Halliburton $1.70 a gallon to ship oil INTO Iraq for the US military.

Now that is funny.

Article further says the governemnt has already paid Halliburton $1.4 Billion for work they've done so far.

My question is:

MAY WE PLEASE SEE THE ITEMIZED SERVICES DONE SO FAR?

What the heck work have they done for that amount of money in such a short amount of time. Oh yeh, they had to put out some fires.

Amercian corporations are such crooks.

Halliburton Allegedly Overcharges in Iraq

WASHINGTON -- Two Democratic lawmakers say Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, Halliburton, is gouging U.S. taxpayers while importing gasoline into Iraq. The Houston-based company contends it is paying the best price possible.

Reps. Henry Waxman of California and John Dingell of Michigan complained to the Bush administration that Halliburton's KBR subsidiary is billing the Army between $1.62 and $1.70 per gallon, while the average price for Middle East gasoline is 71 cents.

They also complained that Iraqis are charged between 4 cents and 15 cents at the pump for the imported gasoline.

"Although Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world, the U.S. taxpayer is, in effect, subsidizing over 90 percent of the cost of gasoline sold in Iraq," the lawmakers said in the latest Democratic attacks against the Houston company that received a no-bid contract.

The charges cover the purchase and transportation of the petroleum from Kuwait and other countries.

Halliburton, originally hired to extinguish oil fires, has received the expanded role of restoring Iraq's oil industry. The company has been paid $1.4 billion through September for its work.

"KBR is not responsible for establishing the price Iraqi motorists pay for gasoline at the pump," Halliburton spokeswoman Wendy Hall said.

She said the company negotiates "fair and competitive prices" with suppliers outside Iraq and must transport the gasoline in a hostile environment.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which chose Halliburton, has received bids for a replacement contract that could be awarded this month.

Corps spokesman Robert Faletti said he could not confirm the figures that Waxman and Dingell cited in a letter to Joshua Bolten, director of the Office of Management and Budget.

He said, however, that the contract is being audited by Congress and the Army.

In a further move against Halliburton, Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., announced Wednesday he would propose barring the government from awarding Iraq reconstruction contracts to companies that maintain close financial ties to the president, vice president or members of the president's Cabinet.

Lautenberg wants the measure added to an $87 billion reconstruction bill for Iraq and Afghanistan.

Cheney receives deferred payments from Halliburton and also has stock options.

Cheney's office has said the vice president had no role in the contract and that the deferred payments were for his services while he headed the company. He has said he would give the proceeds to charity should he profit from the exercise of stock options.

bhutocracy · 10-16-2003, 03:23 AM

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They also complained that Iraqis are charged between 4 cents and 15 cents at the pump for the imported gasoline.

"Although Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world, the U.S. taxpayer is, in effect, subsidizing over 90 percent of the cost of gasoline sold in Iraq," the lawmakers said in the latest Democratic attacks against the Houston company that received a no-bid contract.

Oh man THAT sucks. Gas is cheaper than water there and the Bush admin is getting you guys to pay for it... oh man, oh man... please... SOMEONE notice you're getting fucked..

BRISK · 10-16-2003, 03:34 AM

Shipping oil into Iraq. Kinda ironic, isn't it?

directfiesta · 10-16-2003, 07:28 AM

A bit like shipping Ice to Groenland ....

KRL · 10-16-2003, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Shipping oil into Iraq. Kinda ironic, isn't it?

Fuck ironic, that is called CRIMINAL in my book.

Halli is fucking raping the US taxpayers off for billions. I hope this story gets on 60 Minutes.

These fuckers in the White House are doing some serious pocket lining for all their cronies down in Texas.

This crap makes me so pissed off at our leaders. Are there any honest ones out there at all???

Buff · 10-16-2003, 07:35 AM

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What a way to make money. US Taxpayers are paying Halliburton $1.70 a gallon to ship oil INTO Iraq for the US military.

Hmm. Oil or fuel? You know there is a big difference between unrefined oil and the fuel used to power our military vehicles. right?

12clicks · 10-16-2003, 07:44 AM

ahahahahaha.

liberals. gotta love 'em

Buff · 10-16-2003, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
ahahahahaha.

liberals. gotta love 'em

Well wait, 12C, maybe they just never took any science classes and don't know that unrefined oil from the earth doesn't power vehicles. I'm sure they went to public schools, after all. Be nice, go easy. Teach them.

rooster · 10-16-2003, 07:48 AM

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heres bush teaching far left webmasters how to do their next job.

VirtuMike · 10-16-2003, 09:32 AM

Yeah, this is in reality criminal. In the non government world this is jailable.

tony286 · 10-16-2003, 10:10 AM

This is why you have to register to vote and vote. Your vote can make a difference.

dicknixon · 10-16-2003, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
ahahahahaha.

liberals. gotta love 'em

hahahahhaha

Adult webmasters that defend the Bush Administration (ash-hahahahaha) hahaha . . you gotta wonder what they are thinking

directfiesta · 10-16-2003, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by dicknixon

hahahahhaha

Adult webmasters that defend the Bush Administration (ash-hahahahaha) hahaha . . you gotta wonder what they are thinking

They don't think, they repeat.

Rich · 10-16-2003, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
<img src="http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031009/capt.cdh10510091618.bush_cdh105.jpg">

heres bush teaching far left webmasters how to do their next job.

hahaha, oh yeah I forgot that if you're a Republican, he's going to let you keep selling porn online.

Rich · 10-16-2003, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
ahahahahaha.

liberals. gotta love 'em

yeah, what a bunch of fucking retards, eh pal? Why would they care about where their tax dollars are going? It's better to blindly support an administration because of what politcal side you're on, everyone knows that.

12clicks · 10-16-2003, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Rich

yeah, what a bunch of fucking retards, eh pal? Why would they care about where their tax dollars are going? It's better to blindly support an administration because of what politcal side you're on, everyone knows that.

to the uneducated liberal it looks like blind support. meanwhile, the educated laugh.

Rich · 10-16-2003, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

to the uneducated liberal it looks like blind support. meanwhile, the educated laugh.

umm I'm educated and I vote conservative most of the time, and I'm only laughing AT you. We all know that when you have nothing to say all you do it post a laughing smiley and think you look like you're smart, but you're an idiot, and you ARE supporting an Administration blindly. It just happens to be the Administration that's doing more harm to your country and our world than any other in history. Oh yeah plus they're hell bent on shutting down our industry.

lightswitch · 10-16-2003, 11:46 AM

Your all missing a key point, Yes they have oil, but they do not have the multibillion dollar refineries to do anything with the oil. Shit in California i wish i was paying $1.70

Nas7782 · 10-16-2003, 12:13 PM

We need the money to rebuild Iraq no matter what the cost. Yea, your kids may have to pay for it in the future, but it they will be protected from Iraqi harboring terrorism in the future.

Fu-Q · 10-16-2003, 12:14 PM

the republican administration right now must be GAY!

because they sure like to ass-fuck americans.

DTK · 10-16-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Nas7782
We need the money to rebuild Iraq no matter what the cost. Yea, your kids may have to pay for it in the future, but it they will be protected from Iraqi harboring terrorism in the future.

A little naive, don't you think?

directfiesta · 10-16-2003, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Nas7782
but it they will be protected from Iraqi harboring terrorism in the future.

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Iraq war has swollen ranks of al-Qaida

Richard Norton-Taylor
Thursday October 16, 2003
The Guardian

War in Iraq has swollen the ranks of al-Qaida and "galvanised its will" by increasing radical passions among Muslims, an authoritative think-tank said yesterday.
The warning, echoing earlier ones by MI5 and MI6, was made in the annual report of the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies, The Military Balance.

It said US claims after the invasion of Iraq that al-Qaida was on the run, and that the "war on terror" had turned the corner, were "over-confident". John Chipman, the institute's director, warned that the full effect of the war might never be known, because of the chaos it had left behind.

...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...063759,00.html

Stop repeating and start reading ( information) and think ....

One thing your president didn;t lie about:

There is terrorism in Iraq!

EZRhino · 10-16-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
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heres bush teaching far left webmasters how to do their next job.

eatapeach · 10-16-2003, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by tony404
This is why you have to register to vote and vote. Your vote can make a difference.

bhutocracy · 10-16-2003, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by Buff

Hmm. Oil or fuel? You know there is a big difference between unrefined oil and the fuel used to power our military vehicles. right?

there IS a huge difference - hence my highlighting the paragraph where it says it's being subsidised at the pump for regular Iraqis. Iraq had so much REFINED fuel normal Iraqi's fill their tanks up drive to the border and siphon it off to sell it for a profit.
But we'd have to look at exactly how much reserves they have, what their current production capacity is etc.

Anyways you guys seemed to have missed this the most important paragraph in your knee jerk reaction to criticism against the administration :

"Reps. Henry Waxman of California and John Dingell of Michigan complained to the Bush administration that Halliburton's KBR subsidiary is billing the Army between $1.62 and $1.70 per gallon, while the average price for Middle East gasoline is 71 cents. "

Why are you paying ~$1.65 when you could save over half by paying 71c for Saudi GASOLINE.

fuck Iraqi stuff - screw whatever they've got and their bombed out facilities - You can buy the shit less than half price in the region!

next time theres a democrat in office (as if they're any better) and you complain about government waste I hope you remember this.

If you don't care that they're lining their friend's pockets at US taxpayers expense then.. good whatever. applaud their untouchable craftyness, but don't make excuses for it just come out and say it.

FlyingIguana · 10-16-2003, 08:26 PM

i can ship porn to iraq

where do i sign?

theking · 10-16-2003, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

there IS a huge difference - hence my highlighting the paragraph where it says it's being subsidised at the pump for regular Iraqis. Iraq had so much REFINED fuel normal Iraqi's fill their tanks up drive to the border and siphon it off to sell it for a profit.
But we'd have to look at exactly how much reserves they have, what their current production capacity is etc.

Anyways you guys seemed to have missed this the most important paragraph in your knee jerk reaction to criticism against the administration :

"Reps. Henry Waxman of California and John Dingell of Michigan complained to the Bush administration that Halliburton's KBR subsidiary is billing the Army between $1.62 and $1.70 per gallon, while the average price for Middle East gasoline is 71 cents. "

Why are you paying ~$1.65 when you could save over half by paying 71c for Saudi GASOLINE.

fuck Iraqi stuff - screw whatever they've got and their bombed out facilities - You can buy the shit less than half price in the region!

next time theres a democrat in office (as if they're any better) and you complain about government waste I hope you remember this.

If you don't care that they're lining their friend's pockets at US taxpayers expense then.. good whatever. applaud their untouchable craftyness, but don't make excuses for it just come out and say it.

"The charges cover the purchase and transportation of the petroleum from Kuwait and other countries."

I do not know what is taking place...but assuming they paid 71 cents for Saudi Gas...what does it cost to transport it and distribute that 71 cent gas through out Iraq...particularly if the transporters are Americans on the Halliburton payroll.

bhutocracy · 10-16-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by theking

"The charges cover the purchase and transportation of the petroleum from Kuwait and other countries."

I do not know what is taking place...but assuming they paid 71 cents for Saudi Gas...what does it cost to transport it and distribute that 71 cent gas through out Iraq...particularly if the transporters are Americans on the Halliburton payroll.

you honestly think it costs a dollar per gallon to cross the border? - 150% the cost of the gas itself to cross the thin finger of florida?

I don't know why you guys are so reluctant to accept the reality here. You are getting fleeced.. it's nothing new... Bush or Clinton. The campaign contributors and old boys network are going to get juicy inflated contracts. Welcome to the real world.

banshman · 10-16-2003, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

Why are you paying ~$1.65 when you could save over half by paying 71c for Saudi GASOLINE.

Question for all of you brainiac liberals:
I live just a couple of states away from California, but the price of gasoline is always at least $.50 cheaper here. How can that be?

When you take into consideration all of the transportation costs, tariffs/taxes, security, storage, labor, insurance, logistical engineering, etc $1.65 is dirt cheap.

theking · 10-16-2003, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

you honestly think it costs a dollar per gallon to cross the border? - 150% the cost of the gas itself to cross the thin finger of florida?

I don't know why you guys are so reluctant to accept the reality here. You are getting fleeced.. it's nothing new... Bush or Clinton. The campaign contributors and old boys network are going to get juicy inflated contracts. Welcome to the real world.

Well it is alittle more than crossing a border. It is my understanding that Iraq is around the size of Texas. That is a large area to be transporting and distributing gas and if Halliburton is using American employees...each employee is costing them an arm and a leg. With their hourly pay...overtime pay...benefits...and additional monies and perks that American employees make when working overseas one employee can cost them well over $100,000 per year. One of my friends is a crane operator and he works over seas. He goes over for 12-18 months at a time and comes back with more than a $100,000 in the bank each time.

Are they gouging some...probably...it is the way with most companies.

crockett · 10-16-2003, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by rooster
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heres bush teaching far left webmasters how to do their next job.

HAHA looks like Bush giving Rush Limbaugh on the job training

bhutocracy · 10-16-2003, 09:31 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Well it is alittle more than crossing a border. It is my understanding that Iraq is around the size of Texas. That is a large area to be transporting and distributing gas and if Halliburton is using American employees...each employee is costing them an arm and a leg. With their hourly pay...overtime pay...benefits...and additional monies and perks that American employees make when working overseas one employee can cost them well over $100,000 per year. One of my friends is a crane operator and he works over seas. He goes over for 12-18 months at a time and comes back with more than a $100,000 in the bank each time.

Are they gouging some...probably...it is the way with most companies.

It's not the size of texas.. from capital to capital - kuwait to bagdad - and they're both fairly centrally located, not just on either side of the border it's about 400 miles

bhutocracy · 10-16-2003, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by banshman

Question for all of you brainiac liberals:
I live just a couple of states away from California, but the price of gasoline is always at least $.50 cheaper here. How can that be?

When you take into consideration all of the transportation costs, tariffs/taxes, security, storage, labor, insurance, logistical engineering, etc $1.65 is dirt cheap.

depends which state but a "couple of states away like" utah or idaho using these figures is about double the shipping distance meaning a $2 diference instead of your fifty cents. That actually gives us a pretty good gauge of how much more it's costing - based on you information it's 4 times as expensive.

but it's still pissing in the wind without all the information.
I'm more shocked at your willingness to go against american principles of free enterprise and competition and support no bid contracts..

bhutocracy · 10-16-2003, 09:44 PM

the only thing I can put it down to is a willingness to overlook the mistakes of "your team" if you're conservative (and obviously vice versa for liberals on other issues). If you're ok with no bid contracts going out to administration friends THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR.. then fine, just come out and congratulate them on profiteering.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-16-2003, 09:47 PM

Bush is a War Criminal and Traitor to the American People.
His Administration is a veil of secrecy and the policies it spews are nothing more than policy to fill thier own pockets.

Bush pissed about infighting within his administration
Also note in that artical that Bush wants to give the Iraqi reconstruction by Grants rather than Loans...
Wonder why that is so...

"Follow the money" and you will see the truth.
Follow the oil and see the blood.

Here is some info on the Government messing with our freedom to protest.

Americans Right To Protest being circumvented.

If this administration does not scare you... You are probably dead.

theking · 10-16-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

It's not the size of texas.. from capital to capital - kuwait to bagdad - and they're both fairly centrally located, not just on either side of the border it's about 400 miles

Iraq:
total: 437,072 sq km

Texas:
total: 261,797.12 sq miles

Which by my calculations makes Iraq a little larger than Texas (I may be wrong). In addition gas does not just go to Baghdad...it has to be distributed throughout the country.

theking · 10-16-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Bush is a War Criminal and Traitor to the American People.
His Administration is a veil of secrecy and the policies it spews are nothing more than policy to fill thier own pockets.

Bush pissed about infighting within his administration
Also note in that artical that Bush wants to give the Iraqi reconstruction by Grants rather than Loans...
Wonder why that is so...

"Follow the money" and you will see the truth.
Follow the oil and see the blood.

Here is some info on the Government messing with our freedom to protest.

Americans Right To Protest being circumvented.

If this administration does not scare you... You are probably dead.

You explain to me why the President prefers to give Iraq money instead of loan them money?

As for the protest/protester...it is the Secret Service's job to protect the President...which means not allowing a bunch of protesters or a single protester in a position where the President could be harmed. Nothing new about that.

iroc409 · 10-16-2003, 10:14 PM

it doesn't matter who's in office, they will waste your money.

yes, it's rediculous that they didn't have a bid war for this, that's pretty shitty. i hope they decide to pull halliburton on this, it stinks of shit.

but as far as pricing, etc, i'm not surprised at all. not only do you have to take into consideration transportation, but it's not exactly like driving through texas, either. it is a hostile environment, and i'm sure the people doing it are getting paid as such.

it's not just american corporations that do this either. business is business. and most companies around the world don't run on a 10% profit margin. they wouldn't bother.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-16-2003, 10:23 PM

There is a huge difference between an Grant and Loan.
Grant gives the money away.
Loan is an attempt to recover lost money.

Thus a grant is a gurantee no repayment will be initiated.
Grant is definatly a non recoverable option.

With loans Bush will be dependant on the bank system to issue them and that is what Bush does not want as the Bank system will scoff at the government expenditeurs and also make public record as to how the money was spent via a paper trail.
If Bush wants re election he wont get it with a money trail as to how the moneis are being spent in Iraq and of course revealed via Public record.
Not to mention long term would put the money trail pointing to Haliburton and its over priced services coupled with its no bid contract exposed.

The protests against Bush go largely un-noticed by the media as we all know the media is paid off at this point and Americans whom object with his policies are not being heard.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-16-2003, 10:31 PM

"Good try" it made ya laugh but ya got schooled there bro.

theking · 10-16-2003, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
There is a huge difference between an Grant and Loan.
Grant gives the money away.
Loan is an attempt to recover lost money.

Thus a grant is a gurantee no repayment will be initiated.
Grant is definatly a non recoverable option.

With loans Bush will be dependant on the bank system to issue them and that is what Bush does not want as the Bank system will scoff at the government expenditeurs and also make public record as to how the money was spent via a paper trail.
If Bush wants re election he wont get it with a money trail as to how the moneis are being spent in Iraq and of course revealed via Public record.
Not to mention long term would put the money trail pointing to Haliburton and its over priced services coupled with its no bid contract exposed.

The protests against Bush go largely un-noticed by the media as we all know the media is paid off at this point and Americans whom object with his policies are not being heard.

Good try...A for effort...anyhow.

lightswitch · 10-16-2003, 10:44 PM

The payments cover the 71-cent-a-gallon wholesale cost of the fuel and a 91-to-99-cent transportation fee charged by the company, which the lawmakers have said is exorbitant and have likened to "highway robbery".

I just paid $1.78, & teh refinery is 30 minutes away. highway robbery is teh state & federal taxes.

California 50.4 cents which goes into general funds, where $4.90 of every $1000's goes into transportaion.

KRL · 10-16-2003, 10:46 PM

Webby · 10-16-2003, 10:58 PM

theKing:

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You explain to me why the President prefers to give Iraq money instead of loan them money?

Because he is a slippery son of a bitch who is playing games and needs to show some of that crap "compassionate conservatism" - it does not need some braincell to answer your question - just take time to think about it.

But don't worry.. Iraq won't get much of that. Tis just the same with that great photo opportunity in Africa where $15m was promised - that shrunk to $1m and payable when he is booted out of office.
Same with the promised aid to NY - that never quite got there either!

Hell.. the list is endless and full of BS, all mouth and broken promises!

theking · 10-16-2003, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
theKing:

Because he is a slippery son of a bitch who is playing games and needs to show some of that crap "compassionate conservatism" - it does not need some braincell to answer your question - just take time to think about it.

But don't worry.. Iraq won't get much of that. Tis just the same with that great photo opportunity in Africa where $15m was promised - that shrunk to $1m and payable when he is booted out of office.
Same with the promised aid to NY - that never quite got there either!

Hell.. the list is endless and full of BS, all mouth and broken promises!

My question was a rhetorical question...of course...troll and real "'em" in. I like being entertained by the Webbies of the world. Come on entertain me some more...before I turn in.

Webby · 10-16-2003, 11:41 PM

theKing:

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My question was a rhetorical question...of course...troll and real "'em" in. I like being entertained by the Webbies of the world. Come on entertain me some more...before I turn in.

It was???? I would never have guessed!!!

Shit.. I feel sorry that all ya got is me to entertain you!

Shall I make some a coffee before ya pop off??

Meanwhile... try and answer the question on the other thread before you go - I might get the idea you have went into a comma otherwise!

TheJimmy · 10-16-2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Fuck ironic, that is called CRIMINAL in my book.

another reason that I find it morally and ethically ironic that these puritans could even talk shit about scat, pissing, or gaping anal gangbangs as 'immoral' when you really stack up what they do, versus the average crack whore...

not much diff in my book....they just make more money and are known on a larger level....

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-16-2003, 11:54 PM

Notice the Webmaster Right wingers always duck after the facts start comming out, and resort to offensive wording and name calling then scatter?

Pretty typical not only on GFY but all accross the US in more ways than one.

Webby · 10-16-2003, 11:57 PM

AlienQ:

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Notice the Webmaster Right wingers always duck after the facts start comming out, and resort to offensive wording and name calling then scatter?

No.. they "justify" it

If it means shoot the messenger.. yea, that's fine!

El Demonio · 10-17-2003, 12:24 AM

American people has become the CLOWN of the world for being so stupid enough to support Bush.

If the McDonald's clown runs for president sure you will ellect him, afterall, you already elected Terminator to run an state.

10-16-2003, 03:17 AM	#1
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Halliburton Gouging US Taxpayers What a way to make money. US Taxpayers are paying Halliburton $1.70 a gallon to ship oil INTO Iraq for the US military. Now that is funny. Article further says the governemnt has already paid Halliburton $1.4 Billion for work they've done so far. My question is: MAY WE PLEASE SEE THE ITEMIZED SERVICES DONE SO FAR? What the heck work have they done for that amount of money in such a short amount of time. Oh yeh, they had to put out some fires. Amercian corporations are such crooks. Halliburton Allegedly Overcharges in Iraq WASHINGTON -- Two Democratic lawmakers say Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, Halliburton, is gouging U.S. taxpayers while importing gasoline into Iraq. The Houston-based company contends it is paying the best price possible. Reps. Henry Waxman of California and John Dingell of Michigan complained to the Bush administration that Halliburton's KBR subsidiary is billing the Army between $1.62 and $1.70 per gallon, while the average price for Middle East gasoline is 71 cents. They also complained that Iraqis are charged between 4 cents and 15 cents at the pump for the imported gasoline. "Although Iraq has the second largest oil reserves in the world, the U.S. taxpayer is, in effect, subsidizing over 90 percent of the cost of gasoline sold in Iraq," the lawmakers said in the latest Democratic attacks against the Houston company that received a no-bid contract. The charges cover the purchase and transportation of the petroleum from Kuwait and other countries. Halliburton, originally hired to extinguish oil fires, has received the expanded role of restoring Iraq's oil industry. The company has been paid $1.4 billion through September for its work. "KBR is not responsible for establishing the price Iraqi motorists pay for gasoline at the pump," Halliburton spokeswoman Wendy Hall said. She said the company negotiates "fair and competitive prices" with suppliers outside Iraq and must transport the gasoline in a hostile environment. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which chose Halliburton, has received bids for a replacement contract that could be awarded this month. Corps spokesman Robert Faletti said he could not confirm the figures that Waxman and Dingell cited in a letter to Joshua Bolten, director of the Office of Management and Budget. He said, however, that the contract is being audited by Congress and the Army. In a further move against Halliburton, Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., announced Wednesday he would propose barring the government from awarding Iraq reconstruction contracts to companies that maintain close financial ties to the president, vice president or members of the president's Cabinet. Lautenberg wants the measure added to an $87 billion reconstruction bill for Iraq and Afghanistan. Cheney receives deferred payments from Halliburton and also has stock options. Cheney's office has said the vice president had no role in the contract and that the deferred payments were for his services while he headed the company. He has said he would give the proceeds to charity should he profit from the exercise of stock options. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

10-16-2003, 03:34 AM	#3
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Shipping oil into Iraq. Kinda ironic, isn't it? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

10-16-2003, 07:28 AM	#4
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,703	A bit like shipping Ice to Groenland .... __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

10-16-2003, 07:44 AM	#7
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	ahahahahaha. liberals. gotta love 'em __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

10-16-2003, 09:32 AM	#10
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	Yeah, this is in reality criminal. In the non government world this is jailable. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

10-16-2003, 07:48 AM	#9
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	<img src="http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031009/capt.cdh10510091618.bush_cdh105.jpg"> heres bush teaching far left webmasters how to do their next job.

10-16-2003, 10:10 AM	#11
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	This is why you have to register to vote and vote. Your vote can make a difference.

10-16-2003, 11:46 AM	#18
lightswitch Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Butte, MT, USA Posts: 870	Your all missing a key point, Yes they have oil, but they do not have the multibillion dollar refineries to do anything with the oil. Shit in California i wish i was paying $1.70

10-16-2003, 12:13 PM	#19
Nas7782 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: .US Posts: 493	We need the money to rebuild Iraq no matter what the cost. Yea, your kids may have to pay for it in the future, but it they will be protected from Iraqi harboring terrorism in the future.

10-16-2003, 12:14 PM	#20
Fu-Q Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,546	the republican administration right now must be GAY! because they sure like to ass-fuck americans.

10-16-2003, 08:26 PM	#26
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i can ship porn to iraq where do i sign?

10-16-2003, 09:44 PM	#34
bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	the only thing I can put it down to is a willingness to overlook the mistakes of "your team" if you're conservative (and obviously vice versa for liberals on other issues). If you're ok with no bid contracts going out to administration friends THAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR.. then fine, just come out and congratulate them on profiteering.

10-16-2003, 09:47 PM	#35
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Bush is a War Criminal and Traitor to the American People. His Administration is a veil of secrecy and the policies it spews are nothing more than policy to fill thier own pockets. Bush pissed about infighting within his administration Also note in that artical that Bush wants to give the Iraqi reconstruction by Grants rather than Loans... Wonder why that is so... "Follow the money" and you will see the truth. Follow the oil and see the blood. Here is some info on the Government messing with our freedom to protest. Americans Right To Protest being circumvented. If this administration does not scare you... You are probably dead. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-16-2003, 10:14 PM	#38
iroc409 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: midwest side, yo Posts: 4,728	it doesn't matter who's in office, they will waste your money. yes, it's rediculous that they didn't have a bid war for this, that's pretty shitty. i hope they decide to pull halliburton on this, it stinks of shit. but as far as pricing, etc, i'm not surprised at all. not only do you have to take into consideration transportation, but it's not exactly like driving through texas, either. it is a hostile environment, and i'm sure the people doing it are getting paid as such. it's not just american corporations that do this either. business is business. and most companies around the world don't run on a 10% profit margin. they wouldn't bother. __________________ <a href="http://www.iroc409.com/"><img src="http://www.iroc409.com/adv/120x60.gif" border=0></a> icq: 1 7 6 4 2 0 9 6 0 Gallery templates for ONLY $25! w00t!

10-16-2003, 10:23 PM	#39
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	There is a huge difference between an Grant and Loan. Grant gives the money away. Loan is an attempt to recover lost money. Thus a grant is a gurantee no repayment will be initiated. Grant is definatly a non recoverable option. With loans Bush will be dependant on the bank system to issue them and that is what Bush does not want as the Bank system will scoff at the government expenditeurs and also make public record as to how the money was spent via a paper trail. If Bush wants re election he wont get it with a money trail as to how the moneis are being spent in Iraq and of course revealed via Public record. Not to mention long term would put the money trail pointing to Haliburton and its over priced services coupled with its no bid contract exposed. The protests against Bush go largely un-noticed by the media as we all know the media is paid off at this point and Americans whom object with his policies are not being heard. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-16-2003, 10:31 PM	#40
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	"Good try" it made ya laugh but ya got schooled there bro. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-16-2003, 10:44 PM	#42
lightswitch Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Butte, MT, USA Posts: 870	The payments cover the 71-cent-a-gallon wholesale cost of the fuel and a 91-to-99-cent transportation fee charged by the company, which the lawmakers have said is exorbitant and have likened to "highway robbery". I just paid $1.78, & teh refinery is 30 minutes away. highway robbery is teh state & federal taxes. California 50.4 cents which goes into general funds, where $4.90 of every $1000's goes into transportaion.

10-16-2003, 10:46 PM	#43
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10-16-2003, 11:54 PM	#48
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Notice the Webmaster Right wingers always duck after the facts start comming out, and resort to offensive wording and name calling then scatter? Pretty typical not only on GFY but all accross the US in more ways than one. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

10-17-2003, 12:24 AM	#50
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	American people has become the CLOWN of the world for being so stupid enough to support Bush. If the McDonald's clown runs for president sure you will ellect him, afterall, you already elected Terminator to run an state. __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.