Any Win98Se gurus that can help out? - GoFuckYourself.com

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 12:49 PM

I spent most of last night trying to get Win98SE to boot up in a new p4.

I took the c drive from an old p4 and installed the drive as the c drive in the new computer. But I CONSTANTLY get "Windows Protection Error"..."change the # of stacks in config.sys".

I've changed config.sys so many times my head is spinning. I put in stacks=9,256 and stacks=64,128, but STILL get the very same error message. I can't find any other info from Microsoft or se's that tells me anything valuable.

It boots up into dos ok, and everything is indeed there on the c drive.

Anyone have any ideas why I'm getting "Windows Protection Error" on this. What should a config.sys file look like?

Any help on this greatly appreciated!

ztik · 10-13-2003, 12:51 PM

Try leaving config.sys totaly blank (be sure to back it up first)

10-13-2003, 12:57 PM

Yup, unless you've got some funky hardware or software on there, it probably should be blank.

It's always best to just back up your data and do a clean install.

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztik
Try leaving config.sys totaly blank (be sure to back it up first)

Yeah..I tried no config.sys..and then it just hangs..never loads for some reason.

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
Yup, unless you've got some funky hardware or software on there, it probably should be blank.

It's always best to just back up your data and do a clean install.

The problem on doing a new re-install is that I can't get this new cpu to recognize the cd-rom (where my win98se cd is). I try to load the config.sys that has that info in it..but it apparently doesn't recognize it, or doesn't work for some reason.

Is there an easy command to give in config.sys or autoexec.bat that would make the system recognize the existence of the cd-rom drive?

Thanks!

directfiesta · 10-13-2003, 01:40 PM

take a look at :

http://www.bootdisks.com

A lot of Win stuff there

10-13-2003, 02:16 PM

Do you have an existing computer with WIN98SE on it and a floppy drive?

Just go to the control panel and use the option for making a boot disk in there. I've never had a problem getting the CD-ROM to work if I make a bootdisk from there.

Start>Settings>Control Panel>add and Remove Programs choose Startup Disk tab at the top.

PbG · 10-13-2003, 02:24 PM

Email [email protected] the contents of our autoexec.bat and config.sys files

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
Do you have an existing computer with WIN98SE on it and a floppy drive?

Just go to the control panel and use the option for making a boot disk in there. I've never had a problem getting the CD-ROM to work if I make a bootdisk from there.

Start>Settings>Control Panel>add and Remove Programs choose Startup Disk tab at the top.

yeah..DID..is the operational word here..the power supply crapped out on me yesterday..so I can't boot into windows..wouldn't even be worrying about this if I could! grin

irishfury · 10-13-2003, 02:54 PM

try adding this line to your SYSTEM.INI file in the [386Enh] section:
; Increases default stack pages from 2 to 8
MinSPs=8

or try this stack setting

STACKS=12,256

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
take a look at :

http://www.bootdisks.com

A lot of Win stuff there

I got the universal cd-rom sys and put it into the config.sys file on the boot disk..and indeed it DOES see the cd rom now. So I can access the windows 98se cd rom now..but the cdrom is now drive C..so when I go to do setup..it says "not enough room" since it's seeing the floppy as drive c...

there must be a switch to use with the universal cd-rom.sys that makes it d drive or e drive.

Anyone know what it would be?

Gemini · 10-13-2003, 04:11 PM

Boot up and go into Setup (CMOS) and make sure the settings are right in there first. I can't remember which submenu line those settings are under but they are easy to find. Left hand column under one of those lines is all I remember right now. lol

Make sure the cd is set to slave and in the secondary HD plugin on the Mother board also unless you only have one HD... but double check the HD and cd to see they are jumpered right if you onlly have one of each. If you have two HD's then the cd has GOT to be in that secondary plug on most systems.

You can't just plop HDs in a system from another usually... the mothers have different checksums etc and they rarely match from chip to chip.

Best way is to boot from a floppy boot disk tho. If you have to, put the two systems side by side and stretch the power cables from the good PS to the motherboard in the old system to get it up, you can also stretch the HD cables to the HDs the same way. Kind of a tight fit but we used to do it all the time so it CAN be done. ;-)

Chaldoray · 10-13-2003, 04:12 PM

Partion the drive then format it.

grumpy · 10-13-2003, 05:26 PM

looking the wrong way. You have to change the jumper setting on your harddrive from master to slave. Make sure the harddisk is the master and the cdrom is the slave. Put the harddisk at the end of the cable.

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 06:26 PM

What I have done is just put in a clean virgin drive and stuck the win98se cd in the cd-rom drive and that way, it booted up to the cd rom.

after this nightmare..think I'll switch to win2000 professional. grin
Thanks to EVERYONE for their help!

lock · 10-13-2003, 06:34 PM

Why boot to win98 just to run a few programs?

Other options
try partician commander or os selector install every operating system but keep XP as your main boot for that set up.
This is your best option in my opinion.

baddog · 10-13-2003, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
What should a config.sys file look like?

here is what mine looks like:

Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
device=C:\windows\emm386.exe NOEMS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
files=45
DEVICE=C:\DIAMOND\CDSETUP.SYS /T:I
DEVICE=C:\DIAMOND\SANYO.SYS /D: DMSCD01

I had to add a space between : and D to eliminate the smiley

Gemini · 10-13-2003, 07:01 PM

You run your OP sys on the c:\ drive BD? Tsk Tsk!.

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lock
Why boot to win98 just to run a few programs?

Other options
try partician commander or os selector install every operating system but keep XP as your main boot for that set up.
This is your best option in my opinion.

Ironically my editing card, Broadway Video won't run on anything higher than win98. It does one heckuva job, and if it wasn't for that (plus a few holes in xp), I would go to something else asap. But I can't find a better capture card than broadway. The support team SAYS winxp is supported..but I've heard from many others that have tried it that it's not.

Thus..win98. grin

Centurion · 10-13-2003, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

here is what mine looks like:

Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
device=C:\windows\emm386.exe NOEMS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
files=45
DEVICE=C:\DIAMOND\CDSETUP.SYS /T:I
DEVICE=C:\DIAMOND\SANYO.SYS /D: DMSCD01

I had to add a space between : and D to eliminate the smiley

Ok..the main difference being NOEMS
Will have to try that. Thanks!

MrIzzz · 10-13-2003, 08:41 PM

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10-13-2003, 12:49 PM	#1
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	Any Win98Se gurus that can help out? I spent most of last night trying to get Win98SE to boot up in a new p4. I took the c drive from an old p4 and installed the drive as the c drive in the new computer. But I CONSTANTLY get "Windows Protection Error"..."change the # of stacks in config.sys". I've changed config.sys so many times my head is spinning. I put in stacks=9,256 and stacks=64,128, but STILL get the very same error message. I can't find any other info from Microsoft or se's that tells me anything valuable. It boots up into dos ok, and everything is indeed there on the c drive. Anyone have any ideas why I'm getting "Windows Protection Error" on this. What should a config.sys file look like? Any help on this greatly appreciated!

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irishfury Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In the hearts of cowards Posts: 2,611	try adding this line to your SYSTEM.INI file in the [386Enh] section: ; Increases default stack pages from 2 to 8 MinSPs=8 or try this stack setting STACKS=12,256 __________________ Trust no one there all snakes Last edited by irishfury; 10-13-2003 at 02:59 PM..

10-13-2003, 04:11 PM	#12
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Boot up and go into Setup (CMOS) and make sure the settings are right in there first. I can't remember which submenu line those settings are under but they are easy to find. Left hand column under one of those lines is all I remember right now. lol Make sure the cd is set to slave and in the secondary HD plugin on the Mother board also unless you only have one HD... but double check the HD and cd to see they are jumpered right if you onlly have one of each. If you have two HD's then the cd has GOT to be in that secondary plug on most systems. You can't just plop HDs in a system from another usually... the mothers have different checksums etc and they rarely match from chip to chip. Best way is to boot from a floppy boot disk tho. If you have to, put the two systems side by side and stretch the power cables from the good PS to the motherboard in the old system to get it up, you can also stretch the HD cables to the HDs the same way. Kind of a tight fit but we used to do it all the time so it CAN be done. ;-) __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>

10-13-2003, 12:51 PM	#2
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	Try leaving config.sys totaly blank (be sure to back it up first)

10-13-2003, 12:57 PM	#3
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Yup, unless you've got some funky hardware or software on there, it probably should be blank. It's always best to just back up your data and do a clean install.

10-13-2003, 02:16 PM	#7
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Do you have an existing computer with WIN98SE on it and a floppy drive? Just go to the control panel and use the option for making a boot disk in there. I've never had a problem getting the CD-ROM to work if I make a bootdisk from there. Start>Settings>Control Panel>add and Remove Programs choose Startup Disk tab at the top.

10-13-2003, 04:12 PM	#13
Chaldoray Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,868	Partion the drive then format it.

10-13-2003, 05:26 PM	#14
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	looking the wrong way. You have to change the jumper setting on your harddrive from master to slave. Make sure the harddisk is the master and the cdrom is the slave. Put the harddisk at the end of the cable. __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

10-13-2003, 06:26 PM	#15
Centurion Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: SeATtle Posts: 6,033	What I have done is just put in a clean virgin drive and stuck the win98se cd in the cd-rom drive and that way, it booted up to the cd rom. after this nightmare..think I'll switch to win2000 professional. grin Thanks to EVERYONE for their help!

10-13-2003, 06:34 PM	#16
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