Spam re Acacia - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Markham · 10-13-2003, 01:33 AM

Last week I sent out an ICQ message, to everyone on my list, about Acacia, IMPA and Fight The Patent.

Unbelievably I got three webmasters reply asking what it was all about, they had no knowledge of Acacia or the fight this industry is in regarding the patents on streaming. Not everyone frequents the boards. L

So today we are sending this out to all those on our email list and I want to run it by you and see what you think.

Quote:

Our industry is currently under attack from companies that hold legal Patents. These companies are forcing webmasters to pay them a license fee to stream video on their sites.

However some companies believe these patents are far too broad and will be invalidated in court. They are fighting this instead of just giving in. These companies are now faced with massive legal fees to invalidate these patents.

Should they lose this case, then you will have to apply to Acacia for the right to stream videos on your site. Should they grant you this right they will then fix the fees they think applicable. They can refuse you.

There are also two more companies with patents similar to the one Acacia holds waiting on the outcome of this action. Should this one be lost they can come and ask for you to apply and for pay a similar license.

The two organizations fighting this on behalf of the industry need you support , as little or as much as you can. If you are not aware of this issue can I suggest you look at these sites and learn about them, you may not do videos today but you may need to in the future, protect your future today.

www.fightthepatent.com

www.impai.org

What do you think? Feel free to make comments, I want this understood by everyone.

Any one else with an email list of people in the industry can use this and send it out with my best wishes.

lil2rich4u2 · 10-13-2003, 01:34 AM

sad that people still dont know ....

Paul Markham · 10-13-2003, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
sad that people still dont know ....

No it's not sad, it's up to us too get it out there.

Some people do not read the boards because they think they are full of stupid idiots posting garbage and no help to them.

It's our job to get this out, that is why I told everyone they can use my text or do it themselves.

Sponsors, Content producers, billing companies, hosting providers. Get your lists out and use them.

Gemini · 10-13-2003, 01:51 AM

They were also saying simply downloading a zip of audio or video ALSO infringed on the patents too, not just streaming. ANY transmission of compressed files in those two formats were under their umbrella.

smack · 10-13-2003, 02:00 AM

sounds good to me charly. get's the point across. hopefully impai can stop them.

Paul Markham · 10-13-2003, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
They were also saying simply downloading a zip of audio or video ALSO infringed on the patents too, not just streaming. ANY transmission of compressed files in those two formats were under their umbrella.

Thanks Gemini will include that.

SGS · 10-13-2003, 02:25 AM

20% are very concerned about the Acacia issue another 60% will never know who Acacia are and the final 20% are rubbing their hands at the perceived opportunity that Acacia has given them.

sexeducation · 10-13-2003, 02:45 AM

I think it's good ...
It's given me the idea to change the "join email" and "login emails" on my site to include a FightThisPatent.com and IMPAI.org blurb. And mentioning any compressed files downloading is very good ... as it brings the message home.

Paul Markham · 10-13-2003, 02:59 AM

Someone test www.impai.org for me it looks like it's down.

sexeducation · 10-13-2003, 03:01 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Someone test www.impai.org for me it looks like it's down.

It's down for me again as well.
This happened the other night - did it ever come back on?

Tylo · 10-13-2003, 03:03 AM

Acacia

LuSiD · 10-13-2003, 03:14 AM

Word.

Acacia.

SGS · 10-13-2003, 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Someone test www.impai.org for me it looks like it's down.

Down here too.

Master_Yoba · 10-13-2003, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Someone test www.impai.org for me it looks like it's down.

the same is here

sexeducation · 10-13-2003, 04:18 AM

Let's not make a big deal about this.

Just switch to FightThisPatent.com ?

This thread needs to die.

Paul Markham · 10-13-2003, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation
Let's not make a big deal about this.

Just switch to FightThisPatent.com ?

This thread needs to die.

The day I take advise from you is a long way off.

fiveyes · 10-13-2003, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Someone test www.impai.org for me it looks like it's down.

Still down. Wonder what's that about???

Phoenix66 · 10-13-2003, 06:01 AM

Why noone just blow the damn Acacia's main office into air? They are bastards and parasites by default. Why allowing them to propagate?

That is a first thought that came into my Russian criminal mind. LOL

FightThisPatent · 10-13-2003, 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by charly

What do you think? Feel free to make comments, I want this understood by everyone.

Small addition if you like:

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If you are a content producer or sponsor with an affiliate program and want to get a summary of the patent license issue as it relates to your decision whether to signup with Acacia or not, email brandon -at- FightThePatent.com

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I think I have tapped out on getting pledges from postings on message boards, so going the route of contacting each sponsor and content provider to give them my opinions on the issues, since November 30th, acacia's cut-off date for their "amnesty program" is looming.

Thanks so much for all the attention you are trying to drive to this issue.. it is very concerning that most just don't know or don't care.

Fight the Patent!

sexeducation · 10-13-2003, 06:11 AM

I don't want "amenesty" - what do you mean "amenesty"?

FightThisPatent · 10-13-2003, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by fiveyes

Still down. Wonder what's that about???

looks like this router:
206.169.234.54 (206-169-234-54.gen.twtelecom.net ok)

is not forwarding to 206.169.228.107 IP for impai.org or the IMPAI.org server is offline

Packets to homegrownvideo are making it through this router.

Fight the Patent!

SGS · 10-13-2003, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent
it is very concerning that most just don't know or don't care.

Fight the Patent!

Am I the only one finding this just a little bit suspicious?

sexeducation · 10-13-2003, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS

Am I the only one finding this just a little bit suspicious?

nope ...

FightThisPatent · 10-13-2003, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SGS

Am I the only one finding this just a little bit suspicious?

Find what suspicious, apathy?

Fight the Patent!

Paul Markham · 10-13-2003, 07:21 AM

Hi Brandon
I just emailed out everyone on my list the email. Got some nice positive feedbacks from many. You really should ask sponsors, content providers and any one else with a webmaster email list to let you use it.

One woman said this.

Quote:

All Acacia wants is money. They really have _no_ legal ground. They came after me and I had my attorney respond.

We wrote them, they wrote back, my attorney responded, and since then they have dropped it. I suggest to anyone who is being pursued by them that you merely respond and are clear about your desire to actually go to court and fight it, it is likely that they will move on and not pursue you.

This was maybe what a few more should have done rather than ignore it and not even turn up in court.

Can you ask a lawyer if there is some way we can counter sue Acacia for sending the "Packet" and harassing us?

FightThisPatent · 10-13-2003, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Hi Brandon
I just emailed out everyone on my list the email. Got some nice positive feedbacks from many. You really should ask sponsors, content providers and any one else with a webmaster email list to let you use it.

yes, this is my current strategy... almost done with the email...already have had some email me with requests to receive the info..... I will be contacting all sponsors and content producers with my email message about my summary of the patent license issue....for those that want the email faster, contact me via http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Contact.html

I keep all information confidential, and i don't "blab" anything on the boards... i have had some emails that wrote they have to settle, but they don't like it.. i don't look down on these businesses that have no choice to settle.

If webmasters have email lists that can send a message from me on about all of these patent abuse cases and about my efforts with Fight The Patent Foundation, it would be greatly appreciated.
Contact me if you can provide this service.

Fight the Patent!

FightThisPatent · 10-13-2003, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly

Can you ask a lawyer if there is some way we can counter sue Acacia for sending the "Packet" and harassing us?

So many people wanted AOL to stop harassing them from all the CDROM's they sent out for AOL... One group of people collected like a million discs and dumped them at AOL (or maybe that was an urban legend)

Fight the Patent!

Loch · 10-13-2003, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Hi Brandon
I just emailed out everyone on my list the email. Got some nice positive feedbacks from many. You really should ask sponsors, content providers and any one else with a webmaster email list to let you use it.

One woman said this.

This was maybe what a few more should have done rather than ignore it and not even turn up in court.

Can you ask a lawyer if there is some way we can counter sue Acacia for sending the "Packet" and harassing us?

Paul send me the email and ill gladly do a special for our clients.
Its a good idea and yes a LOT of our members also do not visit the boards.

Far-L · 10-13-2003, 08:35 AM

Part of the IMPA site is down but will be fixed pronto

Far-L · 10-13-2003, 08:37 AM

Loch: We are suing them for a whole litany of things.

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10-13-2003, 02:00 AM	#5
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10-13-2003, 02:25 AM	#7
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	20% are very concerned about the Acacia issue another 60% will never know who Acacia are and the final 20% are rubbing their hands at the perceived opportunity that Acacia has given them. __________________ See sig...

10-13-2003, 02:59 AM	#9
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Someone test www.impai.org for me it looks like it's down. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

10-13-2003, 02:45 AM	#8
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	I think it's good ... It's given me the idea to change the "join email" and "login emails" on my site to include a FightThisPatent.com and IMPAI.org blurb. And mentioning any compressed files downloading is very good ... as it brings the message home.

10-13-2003, 03:03 AM	#11
Tylo Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: South FL. Posts: 2,108	Acacia __________________ -ICQ# 119419008

10-13-2003, 03:14 AM	#12
LuSiD Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 434	Word. Acacia. __________________ I bought a dog the other day... I named him Stay. It's fun to call him... "Come here, Stay! Come here, Stay!" He went insane. Now he just ignores me and keeps typing.

10-13-2003, 04:18 AM	#15
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	Let's not make a big deal about this. Just switch to FightThisPatent.com ? This thread needs to die.

10-13-2003, 06:01 AM	#18
Phoenix66 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 823	Why noone just blow the damn Acacia's main office into air? They are bastards and parasites by default. Why allowing them to propagate? That is a first thought that came into my Russian criminal mind. LOL __________________ Adult Niche Traffic Exchange

10-13-2003, 06:11 AM	#20
sexeducation So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Calgary - Alberta - Canada Posts: 7,315	I don't want "amenesty" - what do you mean "amenesty"?

10-13-2003, 08:35 AM	#29
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,065	Part of the IMPA site is down but will be fixed pronto __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

10-13-2003, 08:37 AM	#30
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