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Old 10-12-2003, 04:39 AM   #1
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Paypal is just fucking shit

I got this email from them:

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PayPal is currently performing regular maintenance of our security
measures. Your account has been randomly selected for this maintenance and
placed on Limited Access status. Protecting the security of your PayPal
account is our primary concern, and we apologize for any inconvenience this
may cause.

To restore your account to its regular status, you must complete the
following steps:

1. Change your PayPal password
2. Change your security questions and answers
3. Contact PayPal Customer Service

To get started, please log in to your PayPal account and click on the
'Limited Access' link on your Account Overview.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
The PayPal Team
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What the hell is up with that? They just select someone random to change your password and change your security questions? That's just fucked up.

What the fuck is up with those systems anyway? First epassporte and now paypal?

God save the queen for regular credit cards. It is clear to me those "e-card" companies are just finding ways to collect a few bucks of your accounts without any reason whatsoever. If that's the deal, i'm out!
How is one expected to do a serious biz with serious transactions if they just decide to "suspend" your account randomly??
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I have never done something other then puyrchase templates and design and scripts with those accounts so what the hell is wrong with that? Or is it just that i didn't do enough transactions and you didn't make enough $$ on me so that you have to pull tricks to make an extra buck?
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Old 10-12-2003, 04:43 AM   #2
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are you sure its really paypal that sent you that? considering the fake emails going around its hard to trust.. could be one of those emails that looks like its from paypal but as soon as you change your password or whatever it asked you to di the sender of the email has access to your paypal account and can clean you out..
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Old 10-12-2003, 04:45 AM   #3
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are you sure its really paypal that sent you that? considering the fake emails going around its hard to trust.. could be one of those emails that looks like its from paypal but as soon as you change your password or whatever it asked you to di the sender of the email has access to your paypal account and can clean you out..
Yeah, i also have the "limited access" screen when i login to my account.
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Yeah, i also have the "limited access" screen when i login to my account.
ok well in that case that is fucked up..
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ok well in that case that is fucked up..
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When you checked your "limited access", did you use a link from the email OR open a browser and type in the addy ??
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Old 10-12-2003, 05:58 AM   #8
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When you checked your "limited access", did you use a link from the email OR open a browser and type in the addy ??
Directly from browser - i know about those scams :-) This is not one of them.
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Old 10-12-2003, 06:03 AM   #9
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Directly from browser - i know about those scams :-) This is not one of them.
Ok then, I guess that Pay Pal is going to the dogs then, ha ha ha.

Speaking of scams, it's funny, I got another one in from an Ebay scamer, they wanted to know my Ebay login, password, then my email address and my EMAIL PASSWORD. If anyone is stupid enough to fall for that one, they deserve whatever damage they get outta it, ha ha.
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Old 10-12-2003, 06:50 AM   #10
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ha! i've got that shit for 3 times last month...
i hate that too.......
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Old 10-12-2003, 06:51 AM   #11
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Without me doing anything i now recieved this email:

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Thank you for faxing the requested information.

Unfortunately, your account access limitation cannot be lifted at this
time. Please complete the information below so we may review your account
further:

1. Add a credit card and enter your Expanded Use Number

You must use the cover page provided by PayPal. The cover page contains
information specific to you and this access limitation, and using it
ensures that your documents are routed and handled in a timely manner. To
print the cover page, go to:

https://www.paypal.com/row/cgi-bin/w...ted-appeal-fax

Sincerely,
Lisa
PayPal Account Review Department

Please do not reply to this e-mail. Mail sent to this address will not be
received and therefore, not answered. For assistance, log in to your PayPal
account and click the "Help" link in the footer of any page. If your
inquiry is regarding a claim, log in to your PayPal account and click the
pink Service Center link.
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lol, i never faxed anything......... paypal is just one big scam, watch out people!
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damn your 0wn3d....
first by epassporte, now by paypal...
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Old 10-12-2003, 06:55 AM   #13
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damn your 0wn3d....
first by epassporte, now by paypal...
yup, you can say that again...... ah well, back to the old visa card
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Old 10-12-2003, 06:56 AM   #14
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If you have got limited acces you are fucked. Paypal are gonna keep the money in the account and you have no chance of getting it back. They stole £1300 from me 5 months ago and asked similar questions. They make a fortune out of limiting accounts and there is nothing you can do to get the money back. Next they will ask for a fax of your driving lisence, then say it came through to them not clear enough to read and for you to blow it up 200%. Then they say they never received it, so you send it again and they do fuck all.

Anyone who has large amounts of funds sitting in their paypal account and it using it for adult deals is risking losing the fucking lot.

You have been warned.
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yup, you can say that again...... ah well, back to the old visa card
dont you find that wired that it happens ONLY to you....?
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dont you find that wired that it happens ONLY to you....?
You must be pretty damn blind........ do a search on this board about paypal or wait...... just read some replies in this thread.
It seems i'm not alone in this world bro
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this happens to quite a few people

http://www.paypalsucks.com/
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You must be pretty damn blind........ do a search on this board about paypal or wait...... just read some replies in this thread.
It seems i'm not alone in this world bro
Im talking about PAYPAL AND epassporte
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Im talking about PAYPAL AND epassporte
Just a coincidence......... epassporte also has a bad reputation on closing accounts or get your money stuck.
Do a search.
And the two aren't related at all. Paypal actually sais in the email that they randomly pick any account for this action, how fucked up is that?
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Just a coincidence......... epassporte also has a bad reputation on closing accounts or get your money stuck.
Do a search.
And the two aren't related at all. Paypal actually sais in the email that they randomly pick any account for this action, how fucked up is that?
Thats true Paypay have tens of millions of accounts and every day they cream of millions of dollars by limiting accounts. The account holder tries to get his money out for a few weeks and several emails and phonecalls then gives up as he is getting nowhere. Paypal just takes the money and it's game over man.

You are fucked.
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Just a coincidence......... epassporte also has a bad reputation on closing accounts or get your money stuck.
Do a search.
And the two aren't related at all. Paypal actually sais in the email that they randomly pick any account for this action, how fucked up is that?

damn I wish I could randomly pick a bank account and take all the money in it...
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Thats true Paypay have tens of millions of accounts and every day they cream of millions of dollars by limiting accounts. The account holder tries to get his money out for a few weeks and several emails and phonecalls then gives up as he is getting nowhere. Paypal just takes the money and it's game over man.

You are fucked.
Nope, THEY are fucked........ they could have made alot more money of me from transactions then the amount that is in the account at the moment. I'm not even gonna try to get it back, they can put where the sun don't shine.
I don't wanna use it anyway if they do shit like this.
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damn I wish I could randomly pick a bank account and take all the money in it...
Indeed.....
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That is what I got yesterday. The funny thing is that my card has really expired just at Sept. So I could fall on it. But saw that PIN field (PIN is never required for on-line CC processing) and fake 128 protection record that doesn't reflect in browser status bar...

That was the e-mail:


And that was what I found following the link:
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That is what I got yesterday. The funny thing is that my card has really expired just at Sept. So I could fall on it. But saw that PIN field (PIN is never required for on-line CC processing) and fake 128 protection record that doesn't reflect in browser status bar...
This has got nothing to do with this....... this isn't any scam, it's a "legit" paypal operation to attempt and steal your money.
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And something about PayPal.

I had my account blocked once. But I sent all papers they were asking for and it was unblocked in 3 days. That was 1.5 year ago.

Just a few weeks ago they caught me on adult content transactions and shut the account down. And know what? They kindly agreed to send a rest of money by wire as I asked instead of sending the check. And more than that - they told me I can open another account, as long as will not be using it for adult. I probably won't anuway, because it's almost useless for me without being allowed to receive money for adult deals.

I had a debit card from them as well. And the funniest thing is that I was accessing it and withdrawing cash all the time from restricted country (though account was opened legally - I was in USA then).

So I don't believe most of these scary stories about PayPal. It's just a matter of how lucky are you with support (they have a lot of stuff and it seems that different people supervise different account sets). And how tolerant and skillfull you are in dealing with clerks.

BTW - I also do not think PayPal can earn anything from the money they block. I think it's just prohibited by financial regulations. Why else would they ask for separate agreement for Money Market? They ask for it because they are restricted to make interest from clients money without special clients permition.
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And something about PayPal.

I had my account blocked once. But I sent all papers they were asking for and it was unblocked in 3 days. That was 1.5 year ago.

Just a few weeks ago they caught me on adult content transactions and shut the account down. And know what? They kindly agreed to send a rest of money by wire as I asked instead of sending the check. And more than that - they told me I can open another account, as long as will not be using it for adult. I probably won't anuway, because it's almost useless for me without being allowed to receive money for adult deals.

I had a debit card from them as well. And the funniest thing is that I was accessing it and withdrawing cash all the time from restricted country (though account was opened legally - I was in USA then).

So I don't believe most of these scary stories about PayPal. It's just a matter of how lucky are you with support (they have a lot of stuff and it seems that different people supervise different account sets). And how tolerant and skillfull you are in dealing with clerks.

BTW - I also do not think PayPal can earn anything from the money they block. I think it's just prohibited by financial regulations. Why else would they ask for separate agreement for Money Market? They ask for it because they are restricted to make interest from clients money without special clients permition.
Read from the above email:

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Your account has been randomly selected for this maintenance and placed on Limited Access status

To restore your account to its regular status, you must complete the
following steps:

1. Change your PayPal password
2. Change your security questions and answers
3. Contact PayPal Customer Service

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What part of this didn't you understand? My point: they select random accounts and just place it on "limited access".
Figure this: you go to your bank and a person tells you that they have randomly selected your account and froze it. If you still want your money (maybe you need to do an urgent payment ?!?!?!) oyu need to change your cc pin, security question and contact their support departement, ON A SUNDAY.
So there you are, no money, payment can't be made and all because they randomly selected you.

NOW you get my point? The way they work sucks, bigtime.

EDIT: nobody should force me or anybody to change pass and security question, that's just plain fucking stupid.
About 2 hours after that you recieve an email saing "thank you for the fax". I NEVER send any fax. I just recieved this:

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Thank you for contacting PayPal.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you. We have
not received any faxes on your account and I apologize. To restore
full access to your PayPal account your can change your Password and
Security Questions and add a credit card to your PayPal account.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us
again.

Sincerely,
Bridgett
PayPal Account Review Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
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So now i gotto add a credit card............. AGAIN???
And we got to trust those people with our money? Common people.

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Instead of herrasing people they should just enforce their terms. I can name you a dozen adult sites out of head accepting paypal and they "randomly" suspend my account and all i did was paid for a few scripts and designs.
Paypal needs to get their facts straight and sorth things out and not randomly select money and freeze it because that's practicly what they do.
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Hmm. PayPal has it's own rules and you agreed to them when you signed up. If you did not read them - that's your problem.

And you are lucky you did not have your bank account frozen. I have one bank that require to change the password at least each 3 month. And there was a situation when my bank account was frozen, because they needed to clarify the origin of the funds transferred there. That is how they struggle money laundry...

I could give you couple of other examples, but it's a waste of time. Trust me, this entire world stinks if you smell intensively. And PayPal ain't the worst.

Where I agree with you - if you don't like something - don't deal with it. If there are alternatives, indeed. Cause if there are not, you are screwed.
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The sites great, the webmaster is also looking for traffic trades & more submits.

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I had a problem with a fraudulent payment. Paypal flagged the transaction right after I moved the money out to my bank.

Which put my paypal account in negative balance, which meant I couldn't purchase anything until the balance was zero.

I called them. They told me what to do to fix it. They were very polite.

Maybe if you call them, they can tell you what to do to resolve this to your satisfaction, even though what you're going through must be annoying for you.
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I believe the letter you got was a fake. Additonally I have seen PayPal get some things right and actually protect the merchant! I just wish they still accepted adult transactions.

Of course I would not rely on them or any one processor. I just do not consider that a sound business practice.
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