If you're promoting sweet18girls.com (cash4partners.com) through ccbill, read this - GoFuckYourself.com

rowan · 10-12-2003, 02:07 PM

Pick a hosted gal, click through to the site and try to join... there's no ccbill. Apparently their account has been closed. From what I can work out this happened up to 6 days ago, I haven't seen any notification from them, so until now I have been sending traffic as per usual.

ccbill will still count the clicks, but you'll never get any sales so your ratio will just get worse and worse.

Juicy D. Links · 10-12-2003, 02:09 PM

uh oh

chowda · 10-12-2003, 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
uh oh

speghetti-o's

eroswebmaster · 10-12-2003, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by rowan

ccbill will still count the clicks, but you'll never get any sales so your ratio will just get worse and worse.

Haha still worried about the ratio.

HarlotCash Dyker · 10-12-2003, 02:25 PM

So use our hosted galleries or daily gallery links -
You will get paid on time (65% or $30 joins)
And ccbill aren't likely to switch us off as our cb ratio is 0.02% which is currently being matched by very few programmes - Why? We produce 100% our own content.
Our members get several hundred high res top quality images every day.
There isn't one upsell in any of our members area -
We, in short, give what our members crave for, and plenty of it.

justsexxx · 10-12-2003, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
So use our hosted galleries or daily gallery links -
You will get paid on time (65% or $30 joins)
And ccbill aren't likely to switch us off as our cb ratio is 0.02% which is currently being matched by very few programmes - Why? We produce 100% our own content.
Our members get several hundred high res top quality images every day.
There isn't one upsell in any of our members area -
We, in short, give what our members crave for, and plenty of it.

Uhm, you have a teen site?

rowan · 10-12-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Haha still worried about the ratio.

Normally it's not the ratio I use to decide what's working and what is not, but in this case it gives me a rough idea of how many sales I've missed out on.

Ratio over the past 6 days (since the sales stopped) - 0:3064

Ratio in the previous week - 1:326

I've emailed them asking for an explanation, it will be interesting to see what they say. It really pisses me off that sponsors continue to accept traffic when they know that affiliates cannot be credited for it.

justsexxx · 10-13-2003, 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by rowan

Normally it's not the ratio I use to decide what's working and what is not, but in this case it gives me a rough idea of how many sales I've missed out on.

Ratio over the past 6 days (since the sales stopped) - 0:3064

Ratio in the previous week - 1:326

1:326 is not bad with TGP traffic!

10-13-2003, 06:22 AM

Here's the join page:

http://www.sweet18girls.com/tour03/eng/join.php?bill=cb

Can you say shave-o-matic?

bugout · 10-13-2003, 06:45 AM

hehehe

try to pay by online check:

To all our clients, friends, enemies and Webmasters

What happend to others in this industry in the past happend to us today. What we think is an unfortunate example from Visa, we have been advised that our bank was instructed today to terminate our processing in order to avoid threatened fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Starting as of 1700 hours GMT time on 8th September 2003, we can not accept any more transactions for your website but the user management will be alive until the expiration of the last user subscription.

justsexxx · 10-13-2003, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by bugout
hehehe

try to pay by online check:

To all our clients, friends, enemies and Webmasters

What happend to others in this industry in the past happend to us today. What we think is an unfortunate example from Visa, we have been advised that our bank was instructed today to terminate our processing in order to avoid threatened fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Starting as of 1700 hours GMT time on 8th September 2003, we can not accept any more transactions for your website but the user management will be alive until the expiration of the last user subscription.

Jeez, when you shave do it good

ludwik · 10-13-2003, 07:00 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Haha still worried about the ratio.

hahaha, stupid gfy fuckers...

if they don't include your ref code on galleries then ccbill doesnt count hits!!

so your ratio is normal, just less hits

HarlotCash Dyker · 10-13-2003, 07:18 AM

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Uhm, you have a teen site?

Yes - www.kelly-dee.com

More coming very soon

rowan · 10-13-2003, 08:15 AM

This was their response to another affiliate promoting them....

"ccbill terminated our account on Friday with no prior warning and we have also no information about why they have done so. You can contact them directly in case you should not believe me. Right now we are waiting for an explanation on why it has been terminated and if they are willing to reactivate it. You can hit me on ICQ at 210613837 if you want.

This is as bad news for us as for you, but at the moment there's nothing we can do about it."

Still doesn't change the fact that they didn't notify ccbill affiliates that they were switching processors.

rowan · 10-13-2003, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by ludwik

hahaha, stupid gfy fuckers...

if they don't include your ref code on galleries then ccbill doesnt count hits!!

so your ratio is normal, just less hits

I read this a few times and I still have NFI what you are talking about.

How can my ccbill affiliate ratio be normal when by definition there cannot be any signups via ccbill?

AssFairy · 10-14-2003, 12:35 PM

F****k

I was converting them at about 1:160, 6 days of traffic completely wasted and the thumbnails alone burned up over 3 gigs of bandwidth, oh well

AssFairy · 10-14-2003, 12:37 PM

Double F****K

I guess we all lose out on the rebills too, this is starting to suck

AssFairy · 10-14-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by evildick
Here's the join page:

http://www.sweet18girls.com/tour03/eng/join.php?bill=cb

Can you say shave-o-matic?

Triple F****K

You mean they were "stealing" my surfers for 6 days and making good signups from them, I can take a joke but now I want compensation for their lack of communication or I will never sponsor them again GRRRRRRRRRRRR

rowan · 10-14-2003, 12:44 PM

Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:16:39 UT
From: [email protected]
To: ******
Subject: sweet18girls.com news

Dear Affiliate,

we are very sorry to announce that the sweet18girls.com affiliate program has
been closed as of today due to the circumstance that we are no longer using ccbill.com as the processing company for this site.

Please aplolgize for the incovienves this might cause. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us at [email protected]

Thank you very much for your understanding

http://www.cash4partners.com

"... as of today ..." don't they mean as of a week ago, we've been enjoying your free traffic with our new biller?

AssFairy · 10-14-2003, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by rowan


"... as of today ..." don't they mean as of a week ago, we've been enjoying your free traffic with our new biller?

That sux the big one, I don't mind sponsors going belly up but I'm not happy about them "making money" from my surfers and leaving me to foot the bandwidth and hosting bills just because their lazy asses couldn't be bothered to mail me.

If they don't give out fair compensation they will be branded thieves and cheats.

xdcdave · 10-14-2003, 12:52 PM

that is such a low fucking move

burn in hell, you give all small sponsors a bad name.

rowan · 10-14-2003, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by AssFairy
Double F****K

I guess we all lose out on the rebills too, this is starting to suck

How long were you promoting them for? I've just realised my first sale was exactly a month ago, which means that I've made only a single $14.97 amount from each signup. Derate the effective rate by 25% because they were not paying for one week out of the four, and you end up with $11.23 per signup.

One thing I am a little concerned about... if they don't handle their existing ccbill customers properly then it's possible they may request a refund or charge back, which will impact on affiliates in the coming months. That $11.23 average signup value could still decrease.

pamphage · 10-14-2003, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:16:39 UT
From: [email protected]
To: ******
Subject: sweet18girls.com news

Dear Affiliate,

we are very sorry to announce that the sweet18girls.com affiliate program has
been closed as of today due to the circumstance that we are no longer using ccbill.com as the processing company for this site.

but WHY did ccbill close down their site? it looks perfectly reasonable to me.

SGS · 10-14-2003, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker

Yes - www.kelly-dee.com

More coming very soon

Good looking site

AssFairy · 10-14-2003, 01:02 PM

Only been promoting them for just over a month, sales were good so I put them on 3 different domains, crap knows how much traffic I sent them over the past 6 days because I started redirecting traffic from other domains to t thumbnail page, one site of the 3 burned up over 3 gigs on the thumbnails so they must have had plenty of my traffic.

pamphage · 10-14-2003, 01:02 PM

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Originally posted by SGS

Good looking site

she hardly looks teen though. more like 23 or 24

Braincash Fred · 10-14-2003, 01:08 PM

Promote www.christineyoung.com instead

pamphage · 10-14-2003, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Braincash Fred
Promote www.christineyoung.com instead

ok now SHE looks teen

rowan · 10-14-2003, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by pamphage

but WHY did ccbill close down their site? it looks perfectly reasonable to me.

That's what I am wondering. The program isn't old enough to have any major processing compliance issues so it must be something else, perhaps something to do with the content.

It's a real pity this happened, because they had a shitload of hosted galleries and I was just ramping up my traffic to them after determining that they were going to work well with my site.

BTW, did anyone else notice that some of the hosted galleries 404'd the last image? Clicking on the last "X" thumb redirected to sweet18girls.com, which meant no affiliate cookie was set... it was quickly fixed when I pointed this out but given this latest fiasco I'm not entirely sure it was accidental.

BrentD · 10-14-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Braincash Fred
Promote www.christineyoung.com instead

webmaster/affiliate link?
n/m found it disregard this post

Braincash Fred · 10-14-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by rowan

That's what I am wondering. The program isn't old enough to have any major processing compliance issues so it must be something else, perhaps something to do with the content.

It's a real pity this happened, because they had a shitload of hosted galleries and I was just ramping up my traffic to them after determining that they were going to work well with my site.

BTW, did anyone else notice that some of the hosted galleries 404'd the last image? Clicking on the last "X" thumb redirected to sweet18girls.com, which meant no affiliate cookie was set... it was quickly fixed when I pointed this out but given this latest fiasco I'm not entirely sure it was accidental.

Use Christine... we got tones of hosted and she convert like crazy

caspuh · 10-14-2003, 02:31 PM

on kelly-dee "acces" is spelled wrong for the signup image.

10-12-2003, 02:07 PM	#1
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	If you're promoting sweet18girls.com (cash4partners.com) through ccbill, read this Pick a hosted gal, click through to the site and try to join... there's no ccbill. Apparently their account has been closed. From what I can work out this happened up to 6 days ago, I haven't seen any notification from them, so until now I have been sending traffic as per usual. ccbill will still count the clicks, but you'll never get any sales so your ratio will just get worse and worse.

10-12-2003, 02:25 PM	#5
HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	So use our hosted galleries or daily gallery links - You will get paid on time (65% or $30 joins) And ccbill aren't likely to switch us off as our cb ratio is 0.02% which is currently being matched by very few programmes - Why? We produce 100% our own content. Our members get several hundred high res top quality images every day. There isn't one upsell in any of our members area - We, in short, give what our members crave for, and plenty of it. __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

10-13-2003, 08:15 AM	#14
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	This was their response to another affiliate promoting them.... <i>"ccbill terminated our account on Friday with no prior warning and we have also no information about why they have done so. You can contact them directly in case you should not believe me. Right now we are waiting for an explanation on why it has been terminated and if they are willing to reactivate it. You can hit me on ICQ at 210613837 if you want. This is as bad news for us as for you, but at the moment there's nothing we can do about it."</i> Still doesn't change the fact that they didn't notify ccbill affiliates that they were switching processors.

10-14-2003, 12:35 PM	#16
AssFairy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: AssTown Posts: 674	F****k I was converting them at about 1:160, 6 days of traffic completely wasted and the thumbnails alone burned up over 3 gigs of bandwidth, oh well __________________ I sale lube

10-14-2003, 12:37 PM	#17
AssFairy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: AssTown Posts: 674	Double F****K I guess we all lose out on the rebills too, this is starting to suck __________________ I sale lube

10-12-2003, 02:09 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	uh oh

10-13-2003, 06:22 AM	#9
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	Here's the join page: http://www.sweet18girls.com/tour03/eng/join.php?bill=cb Can you say shave-o-matic?

10-13-2003, 06:45 AM	#10
bugout Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NY-Rio de Janeiro Posts: 540	hehehe try to pay by online check: To all our clients, friends, enemies and Webmasters What happend to others in this industry in the past happend to us today. What we think is an unfortunate example from Visa, we have been advised that our bank was instructed today to terminate our processing in order to avoid threatened fees in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Starting as of 1700 hours GMT time on 8th September 2003, we can not accept any more transactions for your website but the user management will be alive until the expiration of the last user subscription.

10-14-2003, 12:44 PM	#19
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	<i>Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:16:39 UT From: [email protected] To: ****** Subject: sweet18girls.com news Dear Affiliate, we are very sorry to announce that the sweet18girls.com affiliate program has been closed as of today due to the circumstance that we are no longer using ccbill.com as the processing company for this site. Please aplolgize for the incovienves this might cause. If you have any questions please feel free to contact us at [email protected] Thank you very much for your understanding http://www.cash4partners.com</i> "... as of today ..." don't they mean as of a week ago, we've been enjoying your free traffic with our new biller?

10-14-2003, 12:52 PM	#21
xdcdave Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: North East Posts: 1,911	that is such a low fucking move burn in hell, you give all small sponsors a bad name. __________________

10-14-2003, 01:02 PM	#25
AssFairy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: AssTown Posts: 674	Only been promoting them for just over a month, sales were good so I put them on 3 different domains, crap knows how much traffic I sent them over the past 6 days because I started redirecting traffic from other domains to t thumbnail page, one site of the 3 burned up over 3 gigs on the thumbnails so they must have had plenty of my traffic. __________________ I sale lube

10-14-2003, 01:08 PM	#27
Braincash Fred Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,589	Promote www.christineyoung.com instead

10-14-2003, 02:31 PM	#32
caspuh Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 56	on kelly-dee "acces" is spelled wrong for the signup image.