I've never been to any party steve threw that was full of women and I've never even smoked a joint in my life so if you're infering those are the reasons I endorse Steve then you're on Crack.....

you look at your bank balance and brad will look at his.. then offer him more advice :winkwink:

Jackass. I was accepted to Loyola, New Orleans, Tulane, Stetson, and George Mason. But I was accepted for the JD/MBA program for each of those, not just Law School. I'll be going next fall.

So are you saying you dropped out?
My guess is you weren't making the grade or couldn't pass the bar (or whatever the Canadian equivalent is).

Man I came to GFY to make some money and pump up sales on my 3 year old site.... instead theres this bitchy he said she said crap....

Stop attacking eachother and work together to keep the money coming in!

I wouldn't want a lawyer who is only concerned with the legal documentation and licenses for the content on my site.

I would want one who has enough experience to know that those things mean shit to a jury who is staring, wide-eyed and slack-jawed, at images the prosecuting attorney is putting before them and they are being asked to make a judgement based on those images.

Mr and Mrs Mom & Pop jury aren't going to care if your girl is legally 18, they're going to care that the images they're seeing look like 15 and 16 yr-old girls. Quite frankly, once they've gotten that impression from the images, it doesn't matter what the licenses or photo IDs say. You're done. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.

i've been to many lightspeed parties.. always hospitible... always good crowds and people... always lots of fun.. but ya know what...

brad will still have his own opinion... deja vu????

Good point.. it all comes down to obscenity and community standards... is the community more approvng of an older looking chick dressed like a schoolgirl or an 18 year old that dresses and looks much younger? What's legal and what's community standard is what decides these cases..

ok.. i'm done pissing.. it makes me feel dirty... stupid and like i just wasted an hour of sleep...

hope everyone is doing well... Sleazy.. you are a stand up dude.. and I still like ya :thumbsup

Lensman.. thanks for the late night cap... I jsut wanted to check my email... but was summoned by wiseman to see all of the fun...
hope all is well... .ski season is coming up quick...

peace

a good lawyer doesn't tell you the sky is falling.

I stayed at a Holiday Inn express....

$250/hour is cheap for attorneys.

This about sums it up. Very well put. I agree, $250 is not going to get you a good lawyer who understands this business.

haha love ya greg... but thats funny.. vericose veins at 25? .. dont you get them when you're about 80?
maybe you need to come check out us aussie girls:)

Granted this was created for print and possibly video it does say something...or shall I say it does not say something...

Now I know this is an Ultra Consertive list
And Paul Cambria is trying to be OVER consertive but the fact is with our administration shit could hit the fan any second.

But even with its ultra consertive nature there is no mention of younging girls down...which i thought was interesting.

Just some food for thought...

The Cambria List:

Box-Cover Guidelines/Movie Production Guidelines

Before selecting a chrome please check facial expression. Do not use any shots that depict any unhappiness or pain.


Do not include any of the following:

No shots with appearance of pain or degradation

No facials (bodyshots are OK if shot is not nasty)

No bukakke

No spitting or saliva mouth to mouth

No food used as sex object

No peeing unless in a natural setting, e.g., field, roadside

No coffins

No blindfolds

No wax dripping

No two dicks in/near one mouth

No shot of stretching pussy

No fisting

No squirting

No bondage-type toys or gear unless very light

No girls sharing same dildo (in mouth or pussy)

Toys are OK if shot is not nasty

No hands from 2 different people fingering same girl

No male/male penetration

No transsexuals

No bi-sex

No degrading dialogue, e.g., "Suck this cock, bitch" while slapping her face with a penis

No menstruation topics

No incest topics

No forced sex, rape themes, etc.

No black men-white women themes

i agree, one of the ones I use is $450/hour (although that's canadian)

that's just the dollar amount I remember from the grisham books

Are you an idiot? Obviously
You don't goto the bar till AFTER you graduate with a law degree.
I said I didn't goto law school.

if you're going to law school obviously you failed in this biz.

Good luck with law school - maybe you'll wind up as some leather chair warmer for a fortune 500 company. By 40 you may have your student loans paid off.
at least you'll be able to tell you grandkids that when you were young you posted to GFY and actually spoke to some guys that run real adult sites.

sorry I was fucking a young schoolgirl

wanna join up brad? :Graucho

Steve reminds me of when the Hell's Angles do Santa runs at Christmas. :1orglaugh

:rainfro :rainfro :rainfro :rainfro :rainfro <<<(almost as good as a flash banner)

WTF is up all all the hate?

Great analogy. I recall him "fighting" child porn in a very public manner so that everyone was sure to see he was doing it, and even saying he would block traffic from the word lolita. Go to goggle, search for lightspeed lolita, or lightspeed underage..... Wonder if his great blocking software is working?

is anything sic cash promotes blocking specific key words?


other than 'honest' 'reliable' and 'trustworthy' .........

Well not that my opinion makes a difference but hey wouldn't want to be left out on this. I know Steve have worked with him, had breakfast with him, talked to him many times, and maintained his servers for him Brad on the other hand I have never met and the only thing I know about him is third party.

But with that being said I have the utmost respect for both party's. As far as I know from my customers and associates both programs convert very well. Some people like Steve way of doing things and some people like Brads way of doing things.

To the little guys like me watching all this bashing going on leaves a bad taste in my mouth. This filters down to when I am choosing a sponsor for a project. Both people can ban me from their programs personally and not lose a dime. But if either banned all my freinds I have recommended to both they would both lose money. I feel this whole thing should not be aired in the manner it is.


Brad said this ...

Steve did this ...

Grow up folks this isn't the kids playground. We have much bigger problems in this industry at hand. Acacia, Visa, and the justice department to name a few.

In reality brads comments had some merits to them. But to put that on a video and play it on a sponsors website was totally wrong. I will continue to reffer people to both programs but I will look long and hard as to the question of is it worth me sending anybody to purecash.tv as they are the people that is using this propaganda to promote thier program. Is this a good avenue to use to promote a business? Find 2 big players in the industry and lets get them to butt heads?

It goes to show who we are marketing ourselves to on these boards. Where is the business sense? More and more we are getting annoying sound wavs on banners, Banners that are really stupid like "do you think brad shaw is an asshole? well buy his content" This is all during the biggest shake up this industry has seen yet. There are a lot of eyes on this board from people outside this industry right now and this pissing contest is just another bad mark on all of us.

This issue should be put to rest. It isn't doing Steve or Brad or anybody else in this industry any justice at all.

Thats my :2 cents: if anybody really gives a shit.

OH BTW EVERYONE!!!!!

well, even 20 year olds wear WHITE panties.. wear pj's.. have teddy bears.. So what's the difference? Girls under 18 dress in a way to make themselves look older.. So i guess this would be the same if they dressed up an 80 year old in a 15 year olds close, put teddy bears in the room and called her a schoolgirl.. lol

Now, what Lens what statinmg about on your tour where it says YOUNG SCHOOLGIRLS.. that right there is saying "we have very young girls on this site" who do you think that caters to? Podophiles... it's just like using young teens of young girls..

Now if you would have used barely legal schoolgirls at least that gives the impression that they are 18 or just turned 18.. a young schoolgirl on the other hand gives the impression that the girls are 14, 15, 16.. not 18+..

the point is there is putting teddy bears MAY give the impression that she's younger in some way.. but young schoolgirls does that in a more profound way. Im in no way taking anyones side but before you judge the way someone else does things look at things you do, things you have done.. Some sposors will not allow webmasters to use the words schoolgirls, young teens etc.. let alone YOUNG SCHOOLGIRLS. And I for one would never use those 2 words together.. And notice that you not only used young schoolgirls but innocent young schoolgirls.. very bad use of thoose three word.. Giving the impression of a 15, 16, 17 year old virgin schoolgirl.. personally I would change those words.. Since you own the sites how about checking the age of most of the members? i bet at leat 60% are 40 to 60 years old and looking for one thing... and you can guess what that is.

Yngwie

I can't say it better. Who are we all kidding? We know what the site is supposed to appeal to.

Brad, you can't compare your site to CE Cash or anyone else, THEY are not attacking Steve Lightspeed, you are.

You're right...he is entitledd to his opinion. But opinions aren't necessarily facts. However, the opinion that he has expressed...has made him a hypocrite..and that my friend...is a fact.

Conclusion. We are our own worse enemies.

Very Very True :thumbsup

Conclusion, love me, hate me, I am consistent. Been here 7 years, when some of you guys were still in diapers. Nothing will change, Brad Shaw is at the top of his game, both business wise and personally. In the end, I will laugh to the bank, while man of you are still telling stories of how mean I was to you.

Truly - I feel sorry for you.

Gotta admire a guy that sticks to his guns....

This whole thread just points out the fact that, "people in glass houses..." You know the rest...But I do think people should be called out.

If you never prance around on your high horse...You'll never get knocked off.

Seems there have been quite a few high horses prancin' around lately...that's all.

Its time ego's get set aside and some solidarity came about. Or we're all going to be arguing while the shit comes down on us.

There's no room for ego's anymore...yet this industry has more ego's than an 80's boy band.

-=HOAX=- speaketh the truth.

wether you make a lot of money or very little that's not the point.. I started doing this late 1997 so im not a newbie but im not at the level i should be.. That's my own fault though but what Im saying is how can you accuse someone of something when you are doinng something very close to what you're accusing the other person of doing? Maybe you dont have pics of 18 years olds with teddy bears and shit but you do your share with text..

you may be rolling in money but when did that become the point of this thread? I don't jhate you or anyone else but I will always state my opinion wether it's good or bad..

Yngwie

:GFYBand

:thumbsup

Fuckin spam artist....

what's an mcat?

Medical College Admission Test

sure, just like most here are entitled to their opinion that Brad is now looking like a laughable hypocrite.