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BVF 10-10-2003 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw

Our "school" girl site, the girls look 21, not even 18, lol. Not going to split hairs here. The images speak for themselves.

Hypocrisy and playahatin at it's finest.....Who gives a flying fuck if the girl looks 21 or 18?....The term "school girl" implies girls 18 and BELOW...When a girl is 21, you call her a "coed".......

Just admit it and be a man...Jesus, I wish more people had the fucking balls to admit something....I have no apologies for my actions and neither should you....

grogan 10-10-2003 08:58 PM

brad has text on that site that sounds a bit much, but the girls look older than most 22 year olds I meet.

They are dirty school girls....if they are grad students.

BradShaw 10-10-2003 08:59 PM

Do not get me started going through sponsor program looking for the word school girl.

For instance CE.

http://www.clubpix.com/logurl/loadUR...html/2129751:X

2nd page of your

Wiseman 10-10-2003 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by InsaneGreen
does anyone even like brad?
I am Very good friends with Brad and Steve!!!
And I feel these arguements between the two are very much useless and good for nothing except.....

Have I mentioned? QUICKBUCK IS STILL PAYING $50 PER $2.99 TRIAL through the end of the weekend!!!

rooster 10-10-2003 09:03 PM

my two cents, theres a bit of a difference between a blurb of text on a cookie cutter paysite with girls that dont look young, and building ones whole business on a foundation of a girl that is 18 and looks 16.

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:05 PM

Listen up folks.

Anyone who follows my posts KNOWS I don't just endorse people at random. If I can slam someone I do, and i don't really hesitate for ANYONE in that regard - from newbie to fantasyman or lensman.

Steve Jones (lightspeed) is a man that I have a LOT of respect for. He gives back to the webmaster community more than most companies 10X his size and is a GENUINE person who wears his heart on his sleve. I personally know many of his top affiliates and they ALL say his programs ROCK. I am HONORED to refer to him and the people of his crew as FRIENDs and I only humbully hope they think of me the same way.

As for the child porn shit that brad is talking about - it's all BULLSHIT. The law says 18 - and Steve has nothing but girls that are 18+ on his sites. He portrays them as such too, as some 18 year olds ARE still in high school - so some sets are of that nature. If he were to portray them as in elementry school I'd have a problem but Steve DOESN'T do that. I see NOTHING wrong with his business practices or how he shows his models. Lightspeed is a FIRST class operation.


Now for Brad Shaw, I've never met the man but I can say that I see that he shows a lot of hate. It's a horrible way to live and I truly feel sorry for Brad.


A great man died in Winnipeg (my city) the other day - Issy Asper, age 71. A world class billionaire, Isy had a saying. If you want money give it away. He donated MILLIONS to different charities in Winnipeg and against the advise of his acohahahahaants he often did it before he was financially ready to do it. Why? - because although Issy didn't use these exact terms Issy did believe in something like KARMA. He felt that everything he did would come back to him, and it did 10,000X over. So Issy would give millions and then go make his business deals and make Billions.

Steve is the porn world's equivalant of Isy Asper. Brad should take a lesson from that as Steve's examples are something to look up to, and aspire to.


My guess is that Brad's hatred towards lightspeed probally stems from Brad attempting a knockoff of some of lightspeeds programs that didn't work and now he's bitter about it and lashing out.


Steve - don't listen to this bitter asshole Brad. I truly believe you are a great man with an even greater destiny ahead of you. I simply feel sorry for Brad as his hatred has clouded his vision and he doesn't see the big picture.

Given the choice of a roll model, I publically state that I aspire to be more like Steve Jones.

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:05 PM

Understand one thing about me. I can handle the heat. I understand if you sling shit, you better be able to handle it. I can. and I am not going anywhere.


My point has never been about text, my point with Lightspeed was that the girls are dressed to look YOUNG. To appear younger than the actually are, in my opinion. It is their business model.

Rick Latona 10-10-2003 09:08 PM

I'm sad that Lens stole my thread. I was going for a 5 or 6 pager. :winkwink:

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Understand one thing about me. I can handle the heat. I understand if you sling shit, you better be able to handle it. I can. and I am not going anywhere.


My point has never been about text, my point with Lightspeed was that the girls are dressed to look YOUNG. To appear younger than the actually are, in my opinion. It is their business model.

ok, then lets work this through and see if you're full of shit or not.

I say you are.

what does an 18 year old look and dress like?

What does a 16 year old look and dress like?

what are the differences?

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:10 PM

I have never accused Steve Jones of child porn, that's a HUGE jump. I have accused him of poor judgment, not child porn. I have accused him of catering to pedophiles in my opinion.

BTW, I do not want people to look up to me, I could care a less. I state my opinion, for the sake of being one of the few straight shooters in this business whose wallet has not forsaken his mouth.

Lens thought he had a real bomb here, looks like the bomb squad has showed up. Lens, I tried to look at your sites, but many of your urls were jacked and went to the lez $10 tour, may want to check that out.

Tofu 10-10-2003 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw


$10 programs are too early, and will not and have not make a splash. I said it when they were released, once again I am right.

I disagree. $10 porn is right on time. Those "changes" you were taking about in your interview make $10 programs a necessity! Our program isnt making a splash, its flooding!

gregtx 10-10-2003 09:12 PM

lmao.. wow i forgot this site was in our repertoire of sites..... too bad it never converted worth a shit.. must be the 25 year olds in costume .. glad we never built our entire business model on this... I would be back at the Wendy's window :winkwink:

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
I have never accused Steve Jones of child porn, that's a HUGE jump. I have accused him of poor judgment, not child porn. I have accused him of catering to pedophiles in my opinion.

to be correct, I never assused Brad of saying Steve commited child porn, my EXACT words were ' the child porn shit that brad is talking about"

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


ok, then lets work this through and see if you're full of shit or not.

I say you are.

what does an 18 year old look and dress like?

What does a 16 year old look and dress like?

what are the differences?


Sleazy, I am not going to split hairs. This accomplishes nothing.I have my opinion of Steve's business model. We are not talking 18 looking like 17 here............ I think many of you here need to either hire a lawyer, or speak to a lawyer who deals in this business. They would explain to you, that images of 19 year old girls who are dressed to look 15 is not wise.

gregtx 10-10-2003 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


ok, then lets work this through and see if you're full of shit or not.

I say you are.

what does an 18 year old look and dress like?

What does a 16 year old look and dress like?

what are the differences?


an 18 year old dresses like a 21 year old

a 16 year old dresses like an 18 year old

a model whom you want to look young.. you dress them like a 13 year old...

:winkwink:

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com


I disagree. $10 porn is right on time. Those "changes" you were taking about in your interview make $10 programs a necessity! Our program isnt making a splash, its flooding!


I judge whats hot or not by whats in my spam box. Do not think I have seen a spam for a $10 site. Mailers are the smartest SOB's at making $ and converting sites........They mail what makes the most $.

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by gregtx



an 18 year old dresses like a 21 year old

a 16 year old dresses like an 18 year old

a model whom you want to look young.. you dress them like a 13 year old...

:winkwink:


That about sums it up. No wonder I pay Greg so much, answered that much better than I could.

Lets not forget the teddy bears, pj's, and white panties.

Buff 10-10-2003 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by gregtx
lmao.. wow i forgot this site was in our repertoire of sites..... too bad it never converted worth a shit.. must be the 25 year olds in costume .. glad we never built our entire business model on this... I would be back at the Wendy's window :winkwink:
Greg, do I still look 18? Think I could market ChatRoom Romeo to Catholic Priests?

PrivateEye 10-10-2003 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw



I judge whats hot or not by whats in my spam box. Do not think I have seen a spam for a $10 site. Mailers are the smartest SOB's at making $ and converting sites........They mail what makes the most $.

I got one for a Ronald Regan USO hat for 20$ :1orglaugh

gregtx 10-10-2003 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buff


Greg, do I still look 18? Think I could market ChatRoom Romeo to Catholic Priests?


waist down :winkwink:

Spunky 10-10-2003 09:22 PM

100 ..Never trust a man who slams Canada

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw



Sleazy, I am not going to split hairs. This accomplishes nothing.I have my opinion of Steve's business model. We are not talking 18 looking like 17 here............ I think many of you here need to either hire a lawyer, or speak to a lawyer who deals in this business. They would explain to you, that images of 19 year old girls who are dressed to look 15 is not wise.

I've dealt with many lawyers in and out of this business.
I scorred a 95th percentile on the lsat exam myself.
any lawyer that is advising you that the 'clothing' of model could make them look a couple of years younger probally shouldn't be a lawyer to the adult business, as they SHOULD be more concerned with the documentation of the age of the model then their costume.

-=HOAX=- 10-10-2003 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
I was eating dinner, I do not sit on gfy 24/7 sorry;-)

Each of us draw the line where we feel comfortable. I have no problem with our site, or the images contained on it. All of our websites have been approved by our legal council.

Our "school" girl site, the girls look 21, not even 18, lol. Not going to split hairs here. The images speak for themselves.

Yeah your models look 29 but you imply they're "Young Schoolgirls"...At least LS can find decent talent...brand them...and have men falling over themselves to join...

I got no beef or allegiance to anyone...but I gotta say..."Hypocrite" would be the right word...

Burn enough bridges and you end up stranded on an island...


"Might as well go work at wendy's"

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw



Sleazy, I am not going to split hairs.

typical - you always back away when someone smokes you.

DarkJedi 10-10-2003 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Lensman

http://tourimages.com/tours/easyscho...xxvideo/06.jpg

What's a YOUNG SCHOOLGIRL Brad? 9 years old?

See it on Brad's page: http://link.siccash.com/cgi-bin/load...0114022/3710/1


http://sexy-celebs.net/hotlink/columbo.jpg

Buff 10-10-2003 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


I've dealt with many lawyers in and out of this business.
I scorred a 95th percentile on the lsat exam myself.
any lawyer that is advising you that the 'clothing' of model could make them look a couple of years younger probally shouldn't be a lawyer to the adult business, as they SHOULD be more concerned with the documentation of the age of the model then their costume.

Are we dropping standardized test scores? The LSAT was easy as fuck -- I got a 168 on it cold. That test doesn't have diddly shit to do with the actual statutes in question, so why would you even mention your LSAT score? But you know what? I think you're lying anyway. I doubt you broke 70%. on it. My guess is you scored low 150s at best, but more likely mid 140s.

I hate braggarts.

Odin88 10-10-2003 09:32 PM

Sorry, just had to change my pic ;)

I still have the other one saved, so if he ever does change it (which seems doubtful) just hit me up for it.

:)

gregtx 10-10-2003 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman


http://tourimages.com/tours/easyscho...xxvideo/06.jpg

What's a YOUNG SCHOOLGIRL Brad? 9 years old?

See it on Brad's page: http://link.siccash.com/cgi-bin/load...0114022/3710/1


to ME a "yound schoolgirl" is a 25 year old dressed up in a cheap plaid skirt big enough to cover her stretch marks and knee highs to hide the vericose veins...

Sleazy.. this is not about legal advise.. its about one persons personal opinion.. just like you are entiled to your opinion...btw i scored a 23 on my MCATS... which is a shit score. .. thus i'm a pornographer and not an OBGYN....

Buff 10-10-2003 09:34 PM

Damn Greg! That's pretty low for an Asian ;)

Bladewire 10-10-2003 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
my two cents, theres a bit of a difference between a blurb of text on a cookie cutter paysite with girls that dont look young, and building ones whole business on a foundation of a girl that is 18 and looks 16.
:thumbsup

Mike AI 10-10-2003 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


I've dealt with many lawyers in and out of this business.
I scorred a 95th percentile on the lsat exam myself.
any lawyer that is advising you that the 'clothing' of model could make them look a couple of years younger probally shouldn't be a lawyer to the adult business, as they SHOULD be more concerned with the documentation of the age of the model then their costume.

HAHAHA

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV..."

gregtx 10-10-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-


Yeah your models look 29 but you imply they're "Young Schoolgirls"...At least LS can find decent talent...brand them...and have men falling over themselves to join...

I got no beef or allegiance to anyone...but I gotta say..."Hypocrite" would be the right word...

Burn enough bridges and you end up stranded on an island...


"Might as well go work at wendy's"


True... LS can find some great talent and they do a great job of marketing them... and I'm sure they make great $$$... and they are great guys... and they are very hospitable.... and they are great philanthropist and they throw great parties.... and Tanker makes a great impression of an otter....

BUT

Brad is still entiled to his opinon
:Graucho

Wiseman 10-10-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by THE WISEMAN


I am Very good friends with Brad and Steve!!!
And I feel these arguements between the two are very much useless and good for nothing except.....

Have I mentioned? QUICKBUCK IS STILL PAYING $50 PER $2.99 TRIAL through the end of the weekend!!!

I just wanted to let everyone know again!!

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


I've dealt with many lawyers in and out of this business.
I scorred a 95th percentile on the lsat exam myself.
any lawyer that is advising you that the 'clothing' of model could make them look a couple of years younger probally shouldn't be a lawyer to the adult business, as they SHOULD be more concerned with the documentation of the age of the model then their costume.


Like I said, hire one of the top adult entertainment lawyers. You are not a lawyer, just because you scored well on the LSAT. I scored poorly, but I hired a lawyer to do the work for me.

Buff 10-10-2003 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI


HAHAHA

"I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV..."

Don't you have your Law Degree, Mike? How come you're not bragging about it?

gregtx 10-10-2003 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buff
Damn Greg! That's pretty low for an Asian ;)

i'm not Asian.. i'm a sleepy mexican

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buff


Are we dropping standardized test scores? The LSAT was easy as fuck -- I got a 168 on it cold. That test doesn't have diddly shit to do with the actual statutes in question, so why would you even mention your LSAT score? But you know what? I think you're lying anyway. I doubt you broke 70%. on it. My guess is you scored low 150s at best, but more likely mid 140s.

I hate braggarts.

i took several law school courses actually - loved them although not officically registered for them. With my LSAT score I could have gotten into any law school in canada, and that was after my first year of university, not second or third.

you're just bitter cause you didn't get in.

You read john grisham and listen to him talk about lawyers GOUGING their clients for $250/hour.

I read the same book and realized that I wanted to be the client that didn't care.

BradShaw 10-10-2003 09:41 PM

Going to spend time with my lady.













Bottom line is that my opinion is my opinion. I will keep spouting it when I see fit to do so. Steve can continue to butter up webmasters with drug filled parties and a little pussy that most could never get in their real lives. I will continue to laugh all the way to the bank being a businessman.

SleazyDream 10-10-2003 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw



Like I said, hire one of the top adult entertainment lawyers. You are not a lawyer, just because you scored well on the LSAT. I scored poorly, but I hired a lawyer to do the work for me.


brad, if you take anything away from this take this.

you tell your lawyers what you want to do and they find out how to get it done. NOT the REVERSE. NEVER the REVERSE.

any other way of interaction with MOST lawyers spells business disaster.

Bladewire 10-10-2003 09:44 PM

:glugglug


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