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BlueDesignStudios 10-12-2003 04:23 PM

200!

BradShaw 10-12-2003 04:47 PM

Happy Anniversary Mike. I have never seen a site of Mikes that has girls on it that look tawnee stone young. Steve, you need to remember that the only one responsible for my behavior or comments, is me. By crying to mutual friends, my employees, business associates, it does no good. Cry to me.

Good comments by Gary.

Kick Ass 10-12-2003 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
All,

I've just finished watching Brad Shaw's interview on Mike AI's Pure Cash TV.

Allegation 1. Steve is bad for the industry because he uses girls that "look" underage.

Steve knows how to make money. He creates high-quality sites that people like. He gives lots of content to webmasters for them to promote the services and most importantly, he treats these girls well.

I know certain people in this business who shoot scene after scene of a girl for a couple of weeks, obtain a years worth of updates and call it a day. Steve keeps these girls on payroll for the life of the site unless something goes terribly wrong.

The girls are 18 and that is currently what the law says they have to be. Why is he being punished because the girls are cute and sell memberships?

Allegation 2. Steve is an idiot.

First, refer to allegation 1's response. Webmasters who promote Lightspeed have always made money.

Considering that his program is a "revenue sharing" program I have to assume he does pretty well too.

He's created a strong consumer brand as well as a strong webmaster brand.

I can think of a lot of idiots in this business and Steve isn't one of them.


you are as stupid as lightspeed.

Kick Ass 10-12-2003 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Let me enlighten you then tony. I do have a kid. Luckily not a girl (I must have been living right somewhere along the line for that I'll admit) but I wouldn't want my 18 year old being a porn star, a used car salesman, a burger flipper or a drug dealer. And it won't be that many more years til my son IS 18.

However at the end of the day, 18 is 18, in the eyes of the law. Children, young adults, whatever you want to call them, once they hit 18 there's nothing you can do to control them and you can only hope that they've learned enough along the way to make the right choices.

You'd like to share your child rearing philosophies now with the class? I'm sure you can tell us how yours are doing.

do you have a kid ? do you know who is your kid's father ?

you are such whore

Rick Latona 10-12-2003 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kick Ass



you are as stupid as lightspeed.

Yeah, that's what I'm known for. There goes big dumb Rick. Who the fuck are you?

rooster 10-12-2003 05:24 PM

Kick Ass you rule. That last post almost made me spit out my soda with laughter.

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Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona


I was upset that Brad called him stupid on video in front of thousands of webmasters who have never met him. That's really why I started the thread.


Rick, if I gor upset about what webmaster says about me,
I'd be a nutcake...

you gotta learn how to relax...next time I see you,
I'll show you the masterbation technique I learned, does wonerds for relaxation

Rick Latona 10-12-2003 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


Rick, if I gor upset about what webmaster says about me,
I'd be a nutcake...

you gotta learn how to relax...next time I see you,
I'll show you the masterbation technique I learned, does wonerds for relaxation

I also just quit smoking ;;))))

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona


I also just quit smoking ;;))))

so? just quit fucking people upo the ass without the luv=]be,,,,
do you see that affecting me?????

Rick Latona 10-12-2003 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano


so? just quit fucking people upo the ass without the luv=]be,,,,
do you see that affecting me?????

It just isn't the same, Serge. While you may miss hurting them so much and the pleasure that surely gave you; I have a physical addiction. Perhaps this would make a good replacement hobby??

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona


It just isn't the same, Serge. While you may miss hurting them so much and the pleasure that surely gave you, I have a physical addiction. Perhaps this would make a good replacement hobby??

hobby!???

I made a few bucks fuckin' people up the ass...
you gotta learn from your betters, as 12 clicks would put it
;-)))

Tala 10-12-2003 06:02 PM

After having read all of this, it's hard for me to imagine why anyone would want to try to make Steve look bad unless it's plain jealousy. Steve and I sat down and had a long talk at the Atlanta gathering and I'm using the advice he gave and have started making money from it. It blew me away that someone with his money and his "big webmaster" image, no matter that he doesn't flaunt himself on messageboards, would take the time to sit down with someone as obviously new as I and talk business tactics as though I were as much of a big name as he is. I have nothing but respect for Steve Lightspeed, and if that's ass-kissing, then so be it. I could give two fucks personally. It's not about "my dick is bigger than yours", it's about business sense and knowing what sells. Steve is NOT an idiot, nor does he pimp out underage girls. He knows what he likes, he knows the market for what he likes is huge,a nd he fuckin sells to the market.

Get over it.

makefuckingmoney 10-12-2003 06:26 PM

Mike,

Which site is doing best?

Also can I send my opt in mailer traffic?

Chris

Kimmykim 10-12-2003 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kick Ass


do you have a kid ? do you know who is your kid's father ?

you are such whore

You are, I'm sure of it. I'll have the child support papers dropped off on Tuesday.

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Mike,

Which site is doing best?

Also can I send my opt in mailer traffic?

Chris

pornman,
stop suckin;' dick....

what haopowended to Pornman alias?

Donny 10-12-2003 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Happy Anniversary Mike. I have never seen a site of Mikes that has girls on it that look tawnee stone young.
I'd say that site posted by Steve would qualify. Especially the pic in the top left corner of this page:

http://www.sweetlittleblonde.com/index2.html

Brad, there's nothing wrong with any of Steve's sites. The models are legal, he treats them well, and if you take the time to talk to him in person the two of you would probably get along.

After reading numerous posts you've made I personally think that maybe you have serious problems with the "rumored" drug use. That's understandable. I admire you speaking out against that shit. There's WAY too much "pro drug" talk on this message board.

BradShaw 10-12-2003 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


I'd say that site posted by Steve would qualify. Especially the pic in the top left corner of this page:

http://www.sweetlittleblonde.com/index2.html

Brad, there's nothing wrong with any of Steve's sites. The models are legal, he treats them well, and if you take the time to talk to him in person the two of you would probably get along.

After reading numerous posts you've made I personally think that maybe you have serious problems with the "rumored" drug use. That's understandable. I admire you speaking out against that shit. There's WAY too much "pro drug" talk on this message board.


Is it me, or does that model have implants? I do not know many young girls with impants. My problem is with Steves business model, young girls(legal of course). I have no problem with Mike's sites, and if I did, I would tell him, and he would tell me to fuck off;-)

Mike AI 10-12-2003 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Mike,

Which site is doing best?

Also can I send my opt in mailer traffic?

Chris

CRR is doing the best, but the crippler is doing well.

We are accepting mailers, ICQ me for details.

Mike AI 10-12-2003 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw



Is it me, or does that model have implants? I do not know many young girls with impants. My problem is with Steves business model, young girls(legal of course). I have no problem with Mike's sites, and if I did, I would tell him, and he would tell me to fuck off;-)

Actually http://sweetlittleblonde.com is converting 1 in 300 RAW, and paying out $20 per signup!!

And for the record, her breasts are ALL natural... and they are fantastic!!

:thumbsup

Donny 10-12-2003 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw



Is it me, or does that model have implants? I do not know many young girls with impants. My problem is with Steves business model, young girls(legal of course). I have no problem with Mike's sites, and if I did, I would tell him, and he would tell me to fuck off;-)

I'd love to meet up at internext and buy you a drink. I like people that tell it like it is no matter who they're talking to...

ICQ? Mine's 92432224.

makefuckingmoney 10-12-2003 08:27 PM

Serge,

Unfortunately..

pornoman.com is owned by webfather...like half of internet


so makefuckingmoney.com is better to be known by..

makefuckingmoney 10-12-2003 08:29 PM

if i can get pornoman.com from webfather ill switch back!

SteveLightspeed 10-12-2003 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Happy Anniversary Mike. I have never seen a site of Mikes that has girls on it that look tawnee stone young. Steve, you need to remember that the only one responsible for my behavior or comments, is me. By crying to mutual friends, my employees, business associates, it does no good. Cry to me.

Good comments by Gary.


Brad, there is nothing that I can say to change you. You are the self-appointed king of the internet, and you've proven that you hate me, and there's nothing I can do that will change that.

I can live with that.

I could do and say things in an attempt to hurt you and the people you care about, but that's not my style.

You've made your point, you don't like me, my lifestyle, my sites, my models, my content, or my business. You have nothing good to say about my friends, my associates, my employees, or my family.

You seem to get some kind of twisted kick out of punishing me. Congratulations, for a minute, you actually made me feel bad.

But your issues with me are yours, if you want to fight, then fight alone. If you want to end it, then end it. The choice is yours.

I only hope people have the intelligence to make decisions based on their own experiences, not based on what they read on a message board.

Steve Lightspeed

smsvid 10-12-2003 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed


Steve Lightspeed


Steve, is your surname "lightspeed" ?

WiredGuy 10-12-2003 09:32 PM

Very well said Steve :thumbsup
WG

TheJimmy 10-12-2003 09:39 PM

I wonder, does Brad charge money to start up shit talking threads about a program that gets it exposure for better or worse?


like a smoother version of 'selling my sig' deal...or the ever predictable 'your content sucks' threads....

TheGoldenChild 10-12-2003 09:47 PM

"so, this is how you do business Steve????

If you don't buy ALL Oprano traffic tomorrow,
I'll have KB move with you,
and I don't know any bigger punishment...
where KB goes - Brad goes and you be in the middle of 17k barkings
;-)))

Pay up, mofo,
it's CHEAPER for you!
;_)))"

Serge-

i don't live with gary for the millionth time-
and for the record- anywhere I GO you best be assured that's where webmasters make money

Film at 11......

Announcement this week-
KB no longer in the adult WEB biz-

KB is a pioneer in technology these days-:-))

BradShaw 10-12-2003 09:49 PM

Steve, I do not "hate" you, nor do I consider this a "fight". Not sure when I appointed myself king of anything. I have an opinion, and voice it loudly, as I always have. It is a very integral part of my personality, as I am sure acting reckless and living each day like is it your last, is to your personality.

As far as ending it, that would be too easy. We are too deep into this. You could have picked up the phone and called me like Paolo. Or you could have come up to me at a show and called me out and spoke mano y mano, like Aaron M did. But since you choose to whine like a baby whose bottle was empty to mutual friends and my employees, I see no reason to stop voicing my opinion. I have as much problem with your operation as I do with your whininess.


The day will come when you realize I was on to something about my criticisms of you. Where there is smoke, there is fire. It may not be tomorrow, this year, next, but the day will come

You are an idiot. Sure you may make $, but no telling how many millions are you leaving on the table acting like a child. And when/if the feds come a knocking, it will not matter how much $ you have buried.

SteveLightspeed 10-12-2003 09:56 PM

I just refer to my above post. If I called you, you would say that I'm a pussy for calling you. Seems to me the phone works both ways.

You win Brad.

WiredGuy 10-12-2003 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Not sure when I appointed myself king of anything.
I think this thread is appropriate for your statement: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=184793

WG

Carrie 10-12-2003 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips


I'd say that site posted by Steve would qualify. Especially the pic in the top left corner of this page:

http://www.sweetlittleblonde.com/index2.html

She looks "of age" to me. Actually she's pretty cute. :)

Fletch XXX 10-12-2003 10:05 PM

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Hadden Clark

BradShaw 10-12-2003 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy


I think this thread is appropriate for your statement: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=184793

WG


Thread was an obvious joke. But no doubt I bring eyes to gfy. Call it an ago, but lets not go so far as appointing myself king of saviour of the internet.


Steve, have you seen me say I won with Paolo or AaronM? They handled it like men. Aaron and I are far from tight, but I sure gained respect for him when he approached me at the show. Paolo started off on the wrong foot, but when we got on the phone with each other, we found common ground, business.

I lost any little respect I had for you, when you went off whining about me left and right. If you have a problem with me fine, but why try to get other people involved? My friends and business associates are not responsible for my actions, I am.

WiredGuy 10-12-2003 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Thread was an obvious joke. But no doubt I bring eyes to gfy. Call it an ago, but lets not go so far as appointing myself king of saviour of the internet.
Granted when you start a controversial thread it does get the impressions and will likely get responses to make several pages of replies. Great for GFY/Lensman but quite probably at the cost of other people's business affairs. Granted they are all opinions, but that was the thread that came to mind ...

WG

BradShaw 10-12-2003 10:23 PM

In the end, whose business affairs have I really hurt? We all know gfy/adult Internet is wild west still. Just about any publicity is good, especially if I am attached to it somehow. I would bet I have inadvertently made Steve money. And for that, he should thank me and personally apologize to everyone he has approached about me with his misguided anger.

PeerPatrick 10-12-2003 10:45 PM

I likes me some Steve, he's always been a gold star in my book, same with all his folk. Some peeps just need attention but that's what the good lawd made duct tape fo...when you point a finger you have 3 pointing back at yo happyass.

FUCKuPAYme 10-12-2003 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
In the end, whose business affairs have I really hurt? We all know gfy/adult Internet is wild west still. Just about any publicity is good, especially if I am attached to it somehow. I would bet I have inadvertently made Steve money. And for that, he should thank me and personally apologize to everyone he has approached about me with his misguided anger.
no one here has traffic.

its just a place to bitch

SleazyDream 10-12-2003 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw


The day will come when you realize I was on to something about my criticisms of you. Where there is smoke, there is fire. It may not be tomorrow, this year, next, but the day will come


jst wondering, does this ring true for some of your business practices and ethics brad?

stevecore 10-12-2003 11:01 PM

theres a philosophy to live by in this biz, not only this biz but LIFE in general... give everyone a chance, they do you wrong then fuck em'. i met steve about 4 months ago... i still remember the first words he ever said to me: "you are too clean cut to work for max..."

not only did he welcome me with open arms, but he sized me up in one second. he was right, and i respect him for that. since then steve, tanker, richard, zebra, the whole LS crew... they've been good people to me... i have nothing bad at all to say about them whatsoever. they are top notch people, and i say that with the highest regard.

Jman 10-12-2003 11:05 PM

I like my eggs over and easy.... Epecially at Denny's in a warm place :1orglaugh

Mutt 10-12-2003 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
i still remember the first words he ever said to me: "you are too clean cut to work for max..."

you left a job working for Max Hardcore cuz you were uncomfortable working for a freakshow?

WiredGuy 10-12-2003 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jean-Francois aka JMan
I like my eggs over and easy.... Epecially at Denny's in a warm place :1orglaugh
Memories of Curacao :)
WG

Jman 10-12-2003 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy


Memories of Curacao :)
WG

hehehe YUP :Graucho

WiredGuy 10-12-2003 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jean-Francois aka JMan
hehehe YUP :Graucho
:thumbsup

acd 10-12-2003 11:24 PM

cool :thumbsup






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Kimmykim 10-13-2003 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy


Memories of Curacao :)
WG

Ha! You beat me to it!

stevecore 10-13-2003 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt


you left a job working for Max Hardcore cuz you were uncomfortable working for a freakshow?

what is this?? an interview??!

WiredGuy 10-13-2003 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
Ha! You beat me to it!
:Graucho

Jman 10-13-2003 12:24 AM

Kimmy when you get your lovely b... in Van we can go for breakfast anytime you want :Graucho


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