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slavdogg 10-11-2003 04:26 AM

Brad, do some E, get some hungs, feel the love :)
make more money, live happier ever after :thumbsup

Rick Latona 10-11-2003 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slavdogg
Brad, do some E, get some hungs, feel the love :)
make more money, live happier ever after :thumbsup

What a hungs? :winkwink:

JFK 10-11-2003 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona


What a hungs? :winkwink:

plural for HUNG ?? :1orglaugh

JFK 10-11-2003 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by jason420
I'd like to take the liberty to formally close this thread. Let's recap.

Brad Shaw backed up what he said.

Steve from Light speed is a hypocrite and is bad for the industry.

Rick from CJ will defend the devil if he buys spots on CJ.

I think this covers it.

and you ???? You forgot about you !! Must be because you have your head so far up Brad Shaws ass that you forgot !
NOW I think this covers it.........:2 cents:

Cole Montana 10-11-2003 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Obviously the Attorney General of Michigan has a problem with the appearance of the models on Steve Jones websites as well.

This business is not all about getting along. This is a fragmented business, except it. (look at acacia) Anyone remember the GIA that I presonally sank?

Steve told me point blank that he got into this biz due to his own sexual perversion. Steve is not a business man.

What B.S.!
When I met Steve for the first time, he had no idea what I do for a living just as most of you don't either. So it wouldn't have mattered to him how he answered this question. I asked him how he got into the business. Steve told me point blank, "I love taking pictures, and what better than naked women." No Shit Steve. The girls love Steve to death, he does his damnedest to not only make them happy, but his employees, and the member base. Not once have I seen him approach or grope a girl, so where would the sexual pervions be? The fact that he looks at them through a camera lense? Hell in this industry, is there really any such thing as "sexual peversion" Or is that just personal opinion?

Hi Kimmy!!!

Ross 10-11-2003 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona


Stop it, I'm getting a boner.

HAHA

BradShaw 10-11-2003 10:29 AM

Slavik, E destroys your brain. I recall watching a story about it on Oprah one day. Was sitting on the couch in a big ass suite with Pornoman/Chris when it came on. Scary shit. I have enough issues, last thing I need is less brain!

Honez 10-11-2003 11:39 AM

:2 cents: This industry is under fire. We flinch and scramble each time Visa implements a new rule geared to the adult businesses. We watch as more and more of our freedoms are taken away. So why is it that the flags are raised and the fingers pointed, from within? If fingers have to be pointed, why not point them at the ones that are *not* abiding by the laws? I get so sick of watching this company tear that company to shreds knowing the whole time it is going to somehow come back to bite all of us in the ass.
:::sigh:::

Zebra, let's go have a beer and discuss frosted mini wheats

Serge_Oprano 10-11-2003 11:42 AM

I understand EVERYTHING in this thread except one thing:
WHY Steve Jones NEEDS defense, in your opinion?

Help me Rick Latona.
;-))

Kimmykim 10-11-2003 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
[B Kimmy I dont know if you have kids but if your 18 yr old daughter said Mom I am going to be a porn model. I highly doubt you would give your seal of approval. Saying the laws says she is old enough so its fine with me. [/B]
Let me enlighten you then tony. I do have a kid. Luckily not a girl (I must have been living right somewhere along the line for that I'll admit) but I wouldn't want my 18 year old being a porn star, a used car salesman, a burger flipper or a drug dealer. And it won't be that many more years til my son IS 18.

However at the end of the day, 18 is 18, in the eyes of the law. Children, young adults, whatever you want to call them, once they hit 18 there's nothing you can do to control them and you can only hope that they've learned enough along the way to make the right choices.

You'd like to share your child rearing philosophies now with the class? I'm sure you can tell us how yours are doing.

SleazyDream 10-11-2003 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


Let me enlighten you then tony. I do have a kid. Luckily not a girl (I must have been living right somewhere along the line for that I'll admit) but I wouldn't want my 18 year old being a porn star, a used car salesman, a burger flipper or a drug dealer. And it won't be that many more years til my son IS 18.


what the hell is wrong with used car salesmen and burger flippers?

Tanker 10-11-2003 07:36 PM

I like cactus

tony286 10-11-2003 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim


Let me enlighten you then tony. I do have a kid. Luckily not a girl (I must have been living right somewhere along the line for that I'll admit) but I wouldn't want my 18 year old being a porn star, a used car salesman, a burger flipper or a drug dealer. And it won't be that many more years til my son IS 18.

However at the end of the day, 18 is 18, in the eyes of the law. Children, young adults, whatever you want to call them, once they hit 18 there's nothing you can do to control them and you can only hope that they've learned enough along the way to make the right choices.

You'd like to share your child rearing philosophies now with the class? I'm sure you can tell us how yours are doing.


I like you Kimmy ,so I am not going to go back and forth.You're a very smart woman so you know what I am talking about and I will leave it at that.

Kimmykim 10-11-2003 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by tony404



I like you Kimmy ,so I am not going to go back and forth.You're a very smart woman so you know what I am talking about and I will leave it at that.

Obviously you thought I was joking...

Sleazy, there's nothing more wrong with used car salesmen and burger flippers than porn girls. None of them are something I'd like to see my son doing. Of course with my luck, he'll be selling used cars, flipping burgers part time to make ends meet and be discovered by a porn producer ;)

tony286 10-11-2003 07:52 PM

lol I can see it now Bob Kim(I dont know your kids name) creator of fine filth, Kimmy than you can be his book keeper like Seymour Butts Mom lol.

SureFire 10-11-2003 09:09 PM

Nor would I care to see 'balls' dropping on my mother's head with a big smile. Hamburger flipping or a used car sales man is more honest than sex for deals (jobs).

JMO:)

Back to the subject :)

makefuckingmoney 10-11-2003 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by BradShaw
Slavik, E destroys your brain. I recall watching a story about it on Oprah one day. Was sitting on the couch in a big ass suite with Pornoman/Chris when it came on. Scary shit. I have enough issues, last thing I need is less brain!
I was on E at the time of the show.. I started crying like a baby, then was filled with rage, then started sucking a sucker and rubbing on brad cause my nipples were hard..


Chris

Kimmykim 10-11-2003 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
lol I can see it now Bob Kim(I dont know your kids name) creator of fine filth, Kimmy than you can be his book keeper like Seymour Butts Mom lol.

Hahaha, he better be making enough to hire a bookkeeper, that's not my forte ;)

Chichio 10-11-2003 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Tanker
I like cactus
I knew it! :1orglaugh

lexr 10-11-2003 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I don't think most of us would be incredibly happy of our daughters did porn. Furthermore, Lightspeed isn't typical porn.

You're barking up a dead tree.

I sure would let my daughter do porn when she's of legal age. When she's 18 she can do whatever she wants as long as she's responsible about it.

I would be a bit hypocritical if I tried to prevent her from doing porn considering my profession.

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by lexr


I would be a bit hypocritical if I tried to prevent her from doing porn considering my profession.

you can start her early and ask sexeducation to educate her.
as a responcible parent, you gotta do your best to help children getting an early start in life....

gkremen 10-12-2003 11:46 AM

The early Tawney Stone shots looks about 12- 14 years old. Brad I and have fought in public many times, but Brad does have the guts to say the empire has no clothes and the desired empress is about 13. Even though the models are 18 and over, a thinking person could say that having sites focusing on those that look 12 ? 14 years old makes the industry more of a target (see State of Michigan AG).

LightSpeed?s contents gives our opponents a legitimate guided missile to attack us ? one that I personally find hard to defend. That is why one should consider staying away from the last 5% - there is enough money for all. Why does LightSpeed OVER advertise with businesses that could criticize him (GFY, AVN, other boards)? To obtain ?political? cover from within the industry, maybe? It that what we are seeing on this thread? ?Bought? political support for a person at the edge

The industry have enough problems ? Visa regulations, changing government policies, malicious affiliates: why even defend people who are legally at the waters edge

I hear that the Video part of the industry has it own Steve Jones (aka Steve Lightspeed), Max hardcore ? pushing the laws to their absolute limits. I understand that many people will not do business with Max, even if his content is legal ? something like the situation we had with the Sweets, legal but going to far. The answer is to not do business with those you do not respect.

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 12:02 PM

Gary, what the difference to you what and who does waht on the adult internet???

you are a mainstreamer under your own admission,
why do you take interest in our affairs??

we are the dirty bunch and you may get dirty by association...
;-)))

SteveLightspeed 10-12-2003 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gkremen
The early Tawney Stone shots looks about 12- 14 years old. Brad I and have fought in public many times, but Brad does have the guts to say the empire has no clothes and the desired empress is about 13. Even though the models are 18 and over, a thinking person could say that having sites focusing on those that look 12 ? 14 years old makes the industry more of a target (see State of Michigan AG).

LightSpeed?s contents gives our opponents a legitimate guided missile to attack us ? one that I personally find hard to defend. That is why one should consider staying away from the last 5% - there is enough money for all. Why does LightSpeed OVER advertise with businesses that could criticize him (GFY, AVN, other boards)? To obtain ?political? cover from within the industry, maybe? It that what we are seeing on this thread? ?Bought? political support for a person at the edge

The industry have enough problems ? Visa regulations, changing government policies, malicious affiliates: why even defend people who are legally at the waters edge

I hear that the Video part of the industry has it own Steve Jones (aka Steve Lightspeed), Max hardcore ? pushing the laws to their absolute limits. I understand that many people will not do business with Max, even if his content is legal ? something like the situation we had with the Sweets, legal but going to far. The answer is to not do business with those you do not respect.


Ok, I gotta point out the hyposcrisy here.... Gary's staff has emailed me over and over asking me to buy his traffic. When I declined, I started getting attacked.

Gary, is that your real problem? You aren't getting any of my money?

Or does it have something to do with the fact that AFTER ASACP offered to accept me as a sponsor, I told Joan Irvine to stick a firecracker up her ass and light it?

Fuck man, you are a backstabbing bitch. The last time I talked to you, you said TO MY FACE "there is no problem with Lightspeed"

Guess we know now who can be trusted.

Go share a firecracker with Joan.

Steve Lightspeed

edit: at least you had the balls to post under your real name this time

SteveLightspeed 10-12-2003 12:31 PM

While we're on the subject of hypocrisy, MikeAI, explain this to Brad Shaw

This is your site, right?

http://www.sweetlittleblonde.com/index2.html

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed



Ok, I gotta point out the hyposcrisy here.... Gary's staff has emailed me over and over asking me to buy his traffic. When I declined, I started getting attacked.

Gary, is that your real problem? You aren't getting any of my money?

Or does it have something to do with the fact that AFTER ASACP offered to accept me as a sponsor, I told Joan Irvine to stick a firecracker up her ass and light it?

Fuck man, you are a backstabbing bitch. The last time I talked to you, you said TO MY FACE "there is no problem with Lightspeed"

Guess we know now who can be trusted.

Go share a firecracker with Joan.

Steve Lightspeed

edit: at least you had the balls to post under your real name this time

so, this is how you do business Steve????

If you don't buy ALL Oprano traffic tomorrow,
I'll have KB move with you,
and I don't know any bigger punishment...
where KB goes - Brad goes and you be in the middle of 17k barkings
;-)))

Pay up, mofo,
it's CHEAPER for you!
;_)))

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
MikeAI, explain
MikeAI owns Oprano, so your money will be good spent...

explanations EXTRA!
;-)))

SteveLightspeed 10-12-2003 12:55 PM

Serge, I've never bought a banner on Oprano because I don't frequent your board.

You've never asked me to visit or buy ads before. But I appreciate your low-key, no pressure sales approach!

Steve Lightspeed

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Serge, I've never bought a banner on Oprano because I don't frequent your board.

You've never asked me to visit or buy ads before. But I appreciate your low-key, no pressure sales approach!

Steve Lightspeed

Steve,
after I fired my nephew from my sign business,
I gave myself a word to NEVER do business with relatives.

Mike does business with you, you are like family to me,
therefore...
you are excluded from buying Oprano banners privileges
;-))))

Zebra 10-12-2003 01:15 PM

Does that make you Uncle Serge?

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zebra
Does that make you Uncle Serge?
hmmm.....this is USA and not Europe, we are NOT picky about titles
;-)))

Mike AI 10-12-2003 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed
While we're on the subject of hypocrisy, MikeAI, explain this to Brad Shaw

This is your site, right?

http://www.sweetlittleblonde.com/index2.html

Hey Steve. Where is the hypocracy? Please point out anywhere I have posted about your girls or your sites?

For what its worth, http://www.sweetlittleblonde.com/ is part of PureCash.com we are the ONLY program to pay PER SIGNUP for single amateur girls. SweetLittleBlonde is converting 1 in 320 RAW!!

gkremen 10-12-2003 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Lightspeed



Ok, I gotta point out the hyposcrisy here.... Gary's staff has emailed me over and over asking me to buy his traffic. When I declined, I started getting attacked.

Gary, is that your real problem? You aren't getting any of my money?

Or does it have something to do with the fact that AFTER ASACP offered to accept me as a sponsor, I told Joan Irvine to stick a firecracker up her ass and light it?

Fuck man, you are a backstabbing bitch. The last time I talked to you, you said TO MY FACE "there is no problem with Lightspeed"

Guess we know now who can be trusted.

Go share a firecracker with Joan.

Steve Lightspeed

edit: at least you had the balls to post under your real name this time
***********
1) Given you have more than 1 site and that we have 11 sales people, some of them new, that was bound to happen
2) Joan Irvine is one of the most honest people I know
3) I would not take your money
4) Show me one country is the world that does not have some form of censorship as broadly defined. From the illegality of a) shouting fire in a crowded theater; b) fighting words; c) from telling secret information as deemed by the government; and d) to actions that exploit child. All are censorship. There is nothing wrong with censorship
5) I love Serge

Serge_Oprano 10-12-2003 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gkremen

5) I love Serge [/B]
Serge is not your problem....you didn't play games with me,
only with my wife and for that I'll have your balls on the totem poll....

NOBODY leaves my wife dissatisfied to tell about it!

"Gary, be strong, honey, and I love you too..."
;-)))

fun2cboys 10-12-2003 02:11 PM

I get checks from lightspeed and its all from recurring stuff havent sent em traffic for a while maybe i should again :thumbsup

SteveLightspeed 10-12-2003 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI


Hey Steve. Where is the hypocracy? Please point out anywhere I have posted about your girls or your sites?



um, last time I looked, it was on purecash.com/tv -- I guess Brad was too shy to mention you by name, since you were holding the camera?

I got no beef with you Mike, but I count purecash teddybears = 1, lightspeedcash teddybears = 0

Steve Lightspeed

Mike AI 10-12-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lightspeed



um, last time I looked, it was on purecash.com/tv -- I guess Brad was too shy to mention you by name, since you were holding the camera?

I got no beef with you Mike, but I count purecash teddybears = 1, lightspeedcash teddybears = 0

Steve Lightspeed

You are a freaking moron Steve.

Do you hold NBC or ABC responsible when they do interviews? http://purecash.com/tv is a forum which we created to bring a little levity to the web. So far we have had 4 skits, only 1 included Brad. Next weeks will be completely different.

so you want to hold me responsible? This is coming from a person who does not take personal responsiblity.

I have no problem expressing my views when I want to.

Thus Steve, I will say it now.

YOU are a pussy. You harassed and cried to Luke all week... asking him to set up a call for us. I was EAGER to talk to you. So I got your number and called... no one answered, I left my number on a message, NO Calls, I have posted my e-mail address asking you to dop me a line so I can give you my cell - NOTHING.

I get NOTHING from you by being a fucking crybaby!

I am your number 1 affiliate - I send you HUNDREDS of signups a month. What do you send back to my program? a handful? 5-10 a month?

You remind me of a street sign: ONE WAY

I suggest you rethink you posistion, and your attitude or else I will yank my traffic and send it to someone else who appreciate my business. I suggest you decide on weather you want me as a business associate, or an enemy.

Brad's opinions are his own. I like Brad, but I do not agree with all of his opinions. I have posted in this and other threads, I have NO problem with your sites. Lets face it, YOU copied me... I have been doing this formula since 1996...

Could it be your upset that I have better converting sites then you have, AND I pay per signup? That is what real players do, don't they?

So time to make decisions.... I will ask you again to drop me an e-mail michael AT hirise dot com I will send you my cell and we can talk this out....

Come on Steve, don't be a pussy. It is my first Anniversary, I want to enjoy it.

Rick Latona 10-12-2003 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano
I understand EVERYTHING in this thread except one thing:
WHY Steve Jones NEEDS defense, in your opinion?

Help me Rick Latona.
;-))

I was upset that Brad called him stupid on video in front of thousands of webmasters who have never met him. That's really why I started the thread.

However, discussing the morality of teddy bears and pig tails appears to be a hot topic. It's legal so what's the problem? The only logical argument that anyone has is that it brings heat to our industry.

Does anyone hear honestly think our industry would have no heat if every pig tail and teddy bear was removed from the Internet?

Rick Latona 10-12-2003 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI



It is my first Anniversary, I want to enjoy it.

Congratulations.

Mike AI 10-12-2003 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona


Congratulations.

49 more to go! :thumbsup

Rick Latona 10-12-2003 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI


49 more to go! :thumbsup

You dumping her after 50, eh?

Mike AI 10-12-2003 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona


You dumping her after 50, eh?

Shhhh!!! Yeah at 82, I will find me a hot 18 year old to wheel me around!!

:Graucho

Rick Latona 10-12-2003 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI


Shhhh!!! Yeah at 82, I will find me a hot 18 year old to wheel me around!!

:Graucho

Make sure you put her in Pig Tails.

Mike AI 10-12-2003 03:19 PM

Good talking to you Steve. We are on the same page. I have no problem with your sites or models at all.

Look forward to grabbing a few drinks in Vegas... and of course getting some more love back! :winkwink:

SteveLightspeed 10-12-2003 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike AI


So time to make decisions.... I will ask you again to drop me an e-mail michael AT hirise dot com I will send you my cell and we can talk this out....

Come on Steve, don't be a pussy. It is my first Anniversary, I want to enjoy it.


Email sent... phone answered... good chat... issues resolved.... Happy Anniversary Mike.

makefuckingmoney 10-12-2003 03:26 PM

Fags

Mike AI 10-12-2003 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Fags
Still haven't nailed Katie's sister yet?

You're getting old and slow...

makefuckingmoney 10-12-2003 03:31 PM

getting?

your the one getting.. i have been for years!

makefuckingmoney 10-12-2003 03:32 PM

Mike

I will send you 100 signups a month for 500 in return..

:Graucho

Mike AI 10-12-2003 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Mike

I will send you 100 signups a month for 500 in return..

:Graucho

OK you send first!! :Graucho

I beleive you already owe me some anyway!


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