You can argue the rights and wrongs all you like. How many webmasters read the TOC's? Not many, Im not saying in a court of law you wouldnt be right. You would! But thats just plain and simple shaving, nobody would suspect that. It might not be illegal but its dishonest in my opinion

Please explain how a clearly out of date page will help?

You can always give us a try. :)

No..we are not the same people.

Why do you insist on spreading bullshit and lies?

Have you ever had a conversation with anyone from Python..No one hear knows who you are.

WTF are you talking about changing names?...we have been around since the middle 90's using the same name.

At one point on the jasonandalex signup page you guys offered a pay per signup so were you guys shaving signups back then?

my thoughts on all this

-redirecting foreign traffic without credit is lame, however read the TOS

-partnership programs that employ exits, cross-sales, ect should give a percentage to affilates, its understandable in a PPS program but not in partnership

-shaving is a reality of this industry but should not be condoned

CORRECT!

The future is in programs which help you convert all your

traffic like ARS and internationalbucks - not just parts of it.

Most major sponsors do NOT redirect all foreign traffic and don´t

give the webmaster credit for it. That´s Bullshit. Only a couple

do it and they play with the fact that 90% of their webmasters

won´t notice.


:2 cents:

Dieselcash

payment schedule--->ccbill sponsor, so weekly, of course ppl can change that to min amount of X dollars etc

NO Cross sales
revshare=50% when you do around 10 sales a day 60%
console code--->no popups at all

refer stats--->ccbill stats, so only join url's
payy all join types--->if you mean if we redirect traffic, NO, so every country could join on the ccbill page, if ccbilllet them join....


Andre

Yes, but Marina is so hot ;)

91 posts of shaves :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Guess those 50 credit cards and 10k foriegn proxies dont do well on dialers aye :1orglaugh

Sokkar,

you probably have no traffic to send anyway,, if you come bitching here like a baby

:321GFY :321GFY

Know any other sponsors (beside ARS and internationalbucks) that doesn't shave?

This is not the choice of Orgamscash, its the choice Python made. And AFAIK OC use Python's billing backend. If OC was to send all that European traffic to the Python signup page it would get redirected to dialer hell there and they won't see a cent for it. So they're better off redirecting it to their own dialers and make a dollar or two off of it.

If you want to get paid on the dialer revenues use a geo redirect script on your end.

I dont mind exits...
what i really hate is Back button hijacking


*cough* TCG *cough*

I only see the dialer console on entry, the rest is on exit. The disabled back button doesn't bother me that much.

WG

Do they know who I am?


Nothing to hide, Orgasm Cash simply uses Pythons backend/merchant accounts. They are very close, but not one in the same.

Funny, cause I heard your boses were talking about me in Curacou....

Talk to David, he knows EXACTLY who I am. He as been a friend since 96....

I don't know who you are... Maybe you should go fix a fried peanutbutter and banana sandwich, and STFU! :1orglaugh

Yea i guess. I wouldnt mind back button hijacking for a GALLERY but they should have some kinda option to disable it. For any other type of site that dosent pop links in new frames. Your gonna piss serfers off.

I think everyone knows you by now...
WG

I rather this setup than having popunder consoles on entry. Those piss me off even more.

WG

Instead of crying about it, I'd suggest your sort your traffic prior to sending it to them and only send you what they will pay you on.

Let me know if you need some help with that, I can help you.

I don't like the fact that companies do this, but the obvious solution is to filter out your non-american traffic before you even send it to a sponsor. Redirect it to your own dialer, and milk that shit for everything it's worth. Or, redirect it to a program like international bucks. Don't let them have it if they're not going to pay you for it.

Hmm, perhaps i should have read Kimmy's response first. :winkwink: