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if you dont like it filter the traffic with a script and send it to your own dialer,tgp,toplist,other paysite etc.
This is by far NOT shaving. It's their sponsor, their rules. EOF |
uhh, most per signup programs take the foriegn traffic....
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redirect your foreign traffic elsewhere...problem solved...next
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Even if a sponsor has dialers as a payment method rather than redirection you are still better off sending Germans to German tours. If Orgasm doesn't have German tours you shouldn't be using them for your German traffic. But that doesn't mean they aren't doing well with you U.S. traffic. |
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Things that make you go 'hmmmmm' personally, we give 80% of the dialer money we make back to the affiliate that sent the traffic. We also dont send many countries to dialers. |
orgasm has always converted very well for me and they always pay out, and marina is great to work with!
oh and btw....france sucks |
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he probably doesnt know how, he'd rather bitch on gfy than take the 2 minutes and 200 bucks worth of scripting to do it. |
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Of course orgasmecash converts well since they only count snorth american traffic, right?
Anyway, over the redirecting of foreign traffic, I'm almost sure it is somewhere in their terms....That's a thing you have choosen for with PPS...Same with exits...I really don't understand how ppl can complain about exits on a PPS... Andre |
fidy foreign redirects!
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All PPS programs shave, ALL OF THEM. Don't spam your program saying you don't shave cause you will just look like a fool.
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Want to avoid shaving? Start your own site. It's the only way. |
I would imagine they convert extremely well since only American traffic is counted as a unique. Or is this incorrect?
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Ps: With any PPS program, your traffic is being weighed. Depending on the productivity and quality of your traffic determines how many signups you will actually get credit for. |
mmm... it says in their TOS that they only accept North American traffic, so it's not shaving to my eyes. Now, that they play with the fact that 99.99% of webmasters doesn't notice that and th edialer thingy makes them shitloads of money and you're giving them the traffic for free, that's a different story, but you cannot come saying they're shaving without any proof. After all, wether their TOS are tricky or not, it's clearly stated that they only accept North American (which, btw, means Canada and Mexico) traffic. And posting something like what you posted makes you look a little dumb, huh? :winkwink:
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Upsells in the members section? Cross-sells on the join form? Exit or entrance consoles? Free newsletter box? I haven't seen many recurring sites without at least 2 of the above. That's shaving. Making money off of my traffic without paying me for it is shaving. PPS pays for traffic period. PPS owns. |
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nobody forces anyone to use them orgasmcash is solid have been at their place in toronto 2 months ago fucking nice crew fucking solid company TRAX approved :winkwink: |
it's hardly surprising sponsors shave when the general comment from just about everyone is "well all sponsors shave". What sponsor wouldn't shave if he see's it's accepted by everyone. I'm not naive, i know they all do it, but the public acceptance of it by pretty much everyone, will surely just make them turn up the shavometer even more. when it should be attacked for what it is, fraud.
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Most of you people wouldn't believe the amount of money that can be made from your own paysite vs some programs sites. |
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but i think thats pure BS shaving exists up to the moment where the surfer joined the site (i agree) shaving (in my mind) means, not being payed for a proper signup! as soon as the surfer signed up he is no longer your problem... you got paid for him to join - thats it if anyone earns cash on him in the members area is non of your business! :2 cents: |
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Simple math to me! |
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Since when do free newsletter boxes make money? Most programs do give credit for consoles. As far as cross sales, i've seen some programs that give credit for them, but I wouldn't. That's just bad business. |
well done orgasm cash, Ive just removed all your links... By the way not all programs shave!
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You're right. Free newsletter boxes NEVER make money. Ok. PPS programs pay for upsells. That's another reason they can AFFORD to do PPS. |
What a stupid thread. Getting no credit from non-US traffic is crazy but hardly shaving is it's clearly stated in the TOS. Just use a different sponsor. If you're going to chuck BS accusations around about someone at least make sure they are accurate.
Fucking daft thing to do though. UK alone makes up for 25% of joins on my gay site. I'm buggered if I'll waste any of that sending it straight to a dialler. Of course having a dialler as an option or using it on exit or after a decline is a different thing entirely... |
conclusion from this thread
Tipsy runs gay site :Graucho |
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I too have been sending to Orgasm and have always had great conversions, always paid on time. Plus they have those funny accents that remind me of the Pink Panther movies. I love those guys man!
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All you had to do was look at this one page
http://www.sponsorspecs.com/main.php and you could see which sponsors pay on ALL joins! sheesh when are you guys gonna make this easy on yourselves ... I've done all the investigating FOR YOU ;) |
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They state they keep foreign traffic so the obvious answer is don't use them. There's plenty out there that don't do that. |
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fact is. these bigger programs pay people to say good stuff about their programs. they will pay people to post with their affiliate program in their profile. will pay people to bump their threads. will pay 17,000$ to refer more people to the program so you are trying to get more and more for something you have a 99.9999% chance of winning. you all need to open your fucking eyes :2 cents:
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Good deal gin. I know all about the smaller programs and they were always the way to go. Hell, I made a fortune off BlacksOnBlondes a couple years ago and now i'm working for the best and most honest people I have ever met.
Ok, i'll retract my statement. All PPS programs that do their own tracking shave :) Not going to name any names but I have seen and built scripts for this purpose. |
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