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Old 10-07-2003, 02:11 PM   #1
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:mad ready to jump ship

shit like 1:60 one week then 1:508 the next week has me so pissed I'm ready to change links

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Old 10-07-2003, 02:13 PM   #2
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I think I probably know who you are talking about
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Old 10-07-2003, 02:13 PM   #3
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keep tons of affiliate programs under your belt,
what i notice is whenver i update a switch on a new program (not new sites) my signups go up. so keep rotating and you will see a change imo.
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Old 10-07-2003, 02:13 PM   #4
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Old 10-07-2003, 02:16 PM   #5
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do they have cascade billing? From now on any program without cascade billing will face serious problem.
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Thanks but I have an epoch account
paysite were just ordered
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Old 10-07-2003, 02:17 PM   #7
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do they have cascade billing? From now on any program without cascade billing will face serious problem.
what is cascade billing?
like having a backup processor?
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Old 10-07-2003, 02:34 PM   #9
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i know who u are talkin about and its more like going from 1:50 to 1:5000
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Old 10-07-2003, 02:35 PM   #10
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do they have cascade billing? From now on any program without cascade billing will face serious problem.

So very true
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Old 10-07-2003, 02:47 PM   #11
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Life is all conversion ratios. Get used to it.
oh thank you wise one for the knowledge....

I been doing this since 97 and didnt know that
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i used your words,that's why
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Old 10-07-2003, 03:02 PM   #14
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please explain why you think cascading billing is so great..

do you think programs that use cascading billing are that much better..

Do you think that one credit card company will take another company's rejects? And do you think that webmaster programs are going to pay top dollar for 2nd chance signups?


And when chargebacks are so risky now, do you really want to process someone's card that another place wont take?


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Old 10-07-2003, 03:23 PM   #15
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shit like 1:60 one week then 1:508 the next week has me so pissed I'm ready to change links

hey send it my way ... you wont be disappointed
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please explain why you think cascading billing is so great..

do you think programs that use cascading billing are that much better..

Do you think that one credit card company will take another company's rejects? And do you think that webmaster programs are going to pay top dollar for 2nd chance signups?


And when chargebacks are so risky now, do you really want to process someone's card that another place wont take?


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yes to all of those. i tried to signup my own site right when i got my epoch account and i gott declined. went to my ccbill joinpage and got approved... i HAD money. epoch just didnt like my card i guess..
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Which company?
I dont want to say, I've learned not to burn bridges
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Good choice, me too
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:: raises hand:: I know which one it is!!!
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Nasty Dollars!!!

Did I win the prize???
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Old 10-07-2003, 06:04 PM   #25
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please explain why you think cascading billing is so great..

do you think programs that use cascading billing are that much better..

Do you think that one credit card company will take another company's rejects? And do you think that webmaster programs are going to pay top dollar for 2nd chance signups?


And when chargebacks are so risky now, do you really want to process someone's card that another place wont take?


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Pretty much. Cascading is the way to go. Every paysite should have at least 2 CC billers. Epoch, CCBill, and throw in Jettis as well.
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Old 10-07-2003, 06:27 PM   #26
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Nasty Dollars!!!

Did I win the prize???
not even close, never used them to begin with

and this wont turn into a guessing game, even if you win I'll say its not whoever you guessed
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not even close, never used them to begin with

and this wont turn into a guessing game, even if you win I'll say its not whoever you guessed
Repeat after me: "I love the cash, I am cash whipped "

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Most likely top bucks cause that's what I've been seeing there.
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anyone notice that sales seem to do ok at the beginning of a sales period then totally drop off in like a week? i don't understand why the beginning of sales periods should have any impact on sales.

i know what you mean mr pheer, and its very frustrating for all of us. i've been doing this since 98 and this year has had the most unstable sales i've ever experienced, from doing well one period to doing horrible as hell the next with the same sponsor, traffic, ect.
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anyone notice that sales seem to do ok at the beginning of a sales period then totally drop off in like a week? i don't understand why the beginning of sales periods should have any impact on sales.

i know what you mean mr pheer, and its very frustrating for all of us. i've been doing this since 98 and this year has had the most unstable sales i've ever experienced, from doing well one period to doing horrible as hell the next with the same sponsor, traffic, ect.
I DEFINATELY know who you are talking about now.
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chatbot traffic, on the whole, is unpredictable... depends totally on LOCATION and type of software.
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I DEFINATELY know who you are talking about now. I had rebills appear out of nowhere after 25 straight trials with no turnovers.
im not speaking of any sponsor specifically but more so sponsors in general.
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what is cascade billing?
like having a backup processor?

spammers like cascade billing
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spammers like cascade billing
hehehe One man's spam is another man's "advertising"
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hehehe One man's spam is another man's "advertising"

LOL

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spammers like cascade billing
why would spammers like it more than anyone else?
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hmmm based on the description of the stats problem, ND would have been the right answer if he was saying that the LESS traffic he sent ND, the more $ he made ... the MORE traffic you send ND, the lower the $ -- go figure. At least, that's been my personal experience.
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hmmm based on the description of the stats problem, ND would have been the right answer if he was saying that the LESS traffic he sent ND, the more $ he made ... the MORE traffic you send ND, the lower the $ -- go figure. At least, that's been my personal experience.
Ya know, I thought I was noticing that.. just wasnt sure.
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97 here too, my php calls were all changed today
I think anyone that was using that sponsor, KNOWS who they are!

conversions don't just dry up overnight on the same traffic
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