Judge: Student may wear Bush 'terrorist' T-shirt - GoFuckYourself.com

dj pussy · 10-02-2003, 12:11 AM

DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- A high school student has the right to wear a T-shirt to school with the face of President Bush and the words "International Terrorist" on the front, a federal judge ruled.

"There is no evidence that the T-shirt created any disturbance or disruption," U.S. District Judge Patrick J. Duggan said in the ruling released Wednesday by the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, which sued the Dearborn school district on behalf of Bretton Barber.

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liquidmoe · 10-02-2003, 12:13 AM

Wow a decision that reaffirms free speach.

tha_timinator · 10-02-2003, 01:27 AM

man, why are they even putting up a trial for that?!? if that would be prohibited you guys would officially have a dictator ... sweet

apoklyptk · 10-02-2003, 01:33 AM

Little guys=1

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BRISK · 10-02-2003, 01:36 AM

Freedom of expression rocks my socks

The Truth Hurts · 10-02-2003, 01:38 AM

ACLU is killing America.
Anarchy is upon us.

pornJester · 10-02-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by BRISK
Freedom of expression rocks my socks

ADL Colin · 10-02-2003, 02:08 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
ACLU is killing America.
Anarchy is upon us.

The ACLU will save you one day.

High Quality · 10-02-2003, 02:16 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

The ACLU will save you one day.

I hope they only save me.

ADL Colin · 10-02-2003, 02:22 AM

For those that weren't here yet, it was the ACLU that brought suit against the Justice Department invalidating The Communications Decency Act in 1996.

lagwagon · 10-02-2003, 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by High Quality

I hope they only save me.

kmanrox · 10-02-2003, 05:52 AM

they save everybody's ass

The Truth Hurts · 10-02-2003, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

The ACLU will save you one day.

fat chance....

i'm not looking to have sex with boys, nor am I offended by public displays of religion, nor am I a fag looking to get all up in someones face to let them know about it, nor will my underage daughter be secretly wanting to have abortions behind my back... and so on, and so on.

bringer · 10-02-2003, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by Colin

The ACLU will save you one day.

the ACLU is trash. they defended nambla

playa · 10-02-2003, 06:01 AM

if it wasn't for the ACLU we wouldn't be making any money

bringer · 10-02-2003, 06:05 AM

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Originally posted by playa
if it wasn't for the ACLU we wouldn't be making any money

who's making money? havent you heard? theres no money in porn

roly · 10-02-2003, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts

nor will my underage daughter be secretly wanting to have abortions behind my back...

i doubt any father could say that for sure

Bex · 10-02-2003, 06:45 AM

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Originally posted by dj pussy
DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- A high school student has the right to wear a T-shirt to school with the face of President Bush and the words "International Terrorist" on the front, a federal judge ruled.

"There is no evidence that the T-shirt created any disturbance or disruption," U.S. District Judge Patrick J. Duggan said in the ruling released Wednesday by the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, which sued the Dearborn school district on behalf of Bretton Barber.

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Isn't it kinda sad that a judge has to rule on that? How many tax dollars did that consume?

basschick · 10-02-2003, 06:45 AM

no wonder our country is broke with lawsuits like this one actually making it to court *shakes head*

basschick · 10-02-2003, 06:48 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts

...nor will my underage daughter be secretly wanting to have abortions behind my back...

if you were a father, would you rather your underage daughter had a child? seems like an abortion done safely at a doctor's office might be a better idea so she can move on with her life after making an error in judgement - not to mention the expense of raising your daughter's child, since most 16 year olds aren't exactly self supporting

com · 10-02-2003, 06:49 AM

sperbonzo · 10-02-2003, 07:48 AM

I agree with the ACLU in this case, but you do have to admit that it's funny how the ACLU picks and chooses the cases that it fights. They have never defended kids in school that were banned from carrying a bible in school, or banned from having a shirt on that mentions god or jesus. They have defended art exhibits that show people pissing on the cross, but won't defend exhibits that are shut down because an indian shaman religion was offended by the use of menstral blood in the painting. The list goes on and on and on.....

Unfortunately when you look at their record, the ACLU has a very clearly slanted political agenda in what issues they choose to defend. (By the way, I'm not Christian). Their choice of cases has been blatently politically correct, left wing, anti-christian, anti-white, etc.... I like a lot of the things that they do, but shouldn't they be defending the constitutional rights of people that have views that they don't like also?

I think that it was Thomas Paine (could be wrong), that said: "I may hate what you have to say, but I will die to defend your right to say it!"

grogan · 10-02-2003, 07:53 AM

I have cancer.

rooster · 10-02-2003, 07:54 AM

hopefully nut cancer

<IMX> · 10-02-2003, 08:12 AM

Definitely truth to your statement.

I think they may count on the Christian Coalitions to finance those cases though.

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I agree with the ACLU in this case, but you do have to admit that it's funny how the ACLU picks and chooses the cases that it fights. They have never defended kids in school that were banned from carrying a bible in school, or banned from having a shirt on that mentions god or jesus. They have defended art exhibits that show people pissing on the cross, but won't defend exhibits that are shut down because an indian shaman religion was offended by the use of menstral blood in the painting. The list goes on and on and on.....

Unfortunately when you look at their record, the ACLU has a very clearly slanted political agenda in what issues they choose to defend. (By the way, I'm not Christian). Their choice of cases has been blatently politically correct, left wing, anti-christian, anti-white, etc.... I like a lot of the things that they do, but shouldn't they be defending the constitutional rights of people that have views that they don't like also?

I think that it was Thomas Paine (could be wrong), that said: "I may hate what you have to say, but I will die to defend your right to say it!"

Sly_RJ · 10-02-2003, 08:25 AM

I have no problem with this as long as I can wear my anti-French shirts to school.

The ACLU may do good from time to time. That doesn't change their not-so-hidden agenda. They probably spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on this case in the name of "Freedom of Speech". Where will they be when I say something they don't like?

pauliewalnutz · 10-02-2003, 08:27 AM

FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

Hes allowed to wear it. I dont agree or like it, but I love this countries laws and he is protected just like everyone in the USA.

sperbonzo · 10-02-2003, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
Definitely truth to your statement.

I think they may count on the Christian Coalitions to finance those cases though.

In the cases that I sited......that did not happen, and the kids and the artist were banned

rooster · 10-02-2003, 08:29 AM

i think its a distraction and draws too much attention. If a kid wanted to wear a shirt that says "i hate ******s" , he wouldnt be allowed to.

Sly_RJ · 10-02-2003, 08:30 AM

I got flack once in high school because I was wearing a Godsmack t-shirt that had pentagrams on it. The person complaining about it was extremely liberal, he always drove me nuts, he said the pentagrams were disturbing and frightening him and that I should change shirts.

genomega · 10-02-2003, 08:32 AM

This is a high school not commie u

If the shirt had bad mouthed a left winger and not Bush
the judge would have ruled the other way, it's happened many times in the past.

<IMX> · 10-02-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo

In the cases that I sited......that did not happen, and the kids and the artist were banned

interesting...I think that affirms that no matter what the organization, they will pick and choose their battles carefully.

Seems natural that the ACLU is going to defend free speech that falls within its acceptable range of tolerance. That probably helps them to solidify their base of funding.

After all free speech, as with the recent case of Limbaugh shows, is down to the pocket book behind it.

So does the absence of the defense of those cases you mentioned have to do with the ACLU's power base and funding, or current administration?

Fletch XXX · 10-02-2003, 09:16 AM

I was sent home for wearing a 'Suicidal Tendencies' shirt in 93.

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	i think its a distraction and draws too much attention. If a kid wanted to wear a shirt that says "i hate ******s" , he wouldnt be allowed to.

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