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Old 10-01-2003, 09:07 PM   #51
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He resigned... another blow to free speech.
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you really think ESPN hired Rush WindBag because he knows so much about football?



he was hired to boost piss poor ratings!

they knew he would say something assine and he did.

watch the ratings for ESPN this weekend.

the WindBag got used thats all.

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what do I think of Donovan McNabb?

he is a running back not a Quarterback.

Andy Reed (head coach) should not be calling plays.

the Eagles got where they are because of Jimmy Johnson's defense.
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Ahaha. ABC can do whatever they want, but that is hilarious . All the bitching about freedom of speech when the Dixie Chicks had something to say, now a presidential candidate is pushing for this...

I see nothing hateful about what he said. Unpopular opinion? Sure. Hate? Riiight...
So did the Dixie Chicks make racist comments?

Thought not.
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Old 10-01-2003, 09:23 PM   #54
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"We supposedly have freedom of speech in this country," Limbaugh explained on his radio program. "An opinion is an opinion."

Senile hypocrites are funny.
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Old 10-01-2003, 09:24 PM   #55
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So did the Dixie Chicks make racist comments?

Thought not.
So freedom of speech is allowed as long as it isn't with "racist comments"?
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What a bunch of horse shit. Leave it up to the bleeding liberals in the media to scream 'racist' for no reason whatsoever. Are people ignorant enough to believe people don't think like he suggested? He didn't say anything negative about the athelete, just that he thought his performance was over-rated.

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I bet you were one of those bitching about the Dixie Chicks comments. Right?

I'll go search for it in your old posts ...
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Naw, Limbaugh fucked up. It is a racist statement but NOT all targeted at McNabb but at the media.

A QB is sorta if not always the captain and guidance of his team next to the coaches. Defense is always the best offense I figure but if that's the case no QB deserves credit.

Limbaugh's a race baiting windbag who puts his foot in his mouth every other day. We expect this foolishness from him.

He caters to the fearful and uninformed populace who buy into his propoganda for the right wing. He makes broad sweeping statements that are nowhere near truth and blames others instead of taking responsibility himself.

Same could be said of many of us BUT this man is the bullwork of radio broadcasting because so many of the U.S. are so damned bigotted and ignorant. He should be ashamed of himself for bringing broadcasting down to a new low under the color of concern for our land.
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The comment was 100% accurate and 0% racist.
You're 100% an idiot and 0% intelligent.
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I think Rush is right about his comments,


There's one born every minute
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I don't know Rush Limbaugh and I don't listen to him regularly, either. All I know is that I heard the statement that was aired and it was him calling the media racist and not a racist remark about the athelete.

Your last comments I'll just choose to ignore because they don't dignify a response. I could care less if you agree with me about interpreting what Rush said but give me a fucking break about the rest of your bullshit.

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You're a fucking racist and either you're proud of it or you're to damn stupid to realize it...which is it?
A little from Column A, a little from Column B.
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So freedom of speech is allowed as long as it isn't with "racist comments"?
They're both covered under freedom of speech, but there's a big difference between questioning your president, and making racist slurs.

I'm sure even you can see that.
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I don't know Rush Limbaugh and I don't listen to him regularly, either. All I know is that I heard the statement that was aired and it was him calling the media racist and not a racist remark about the athelete.

Your last comments I'll just choose to ignore because they don't dignify a response. I could care less if you agree with me about interpreting what Rush said but give me a fucking break about the rest of your bullshit.

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Just like you chose to ignore what Rush was saying......

You must be from Orange County...the land of the blind and deaf white man

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They're both covered under freedom of speech, but there's a big difference between questioning your president, and making racist slurs.

I'm sure even you can see that.
please quote the racist slur Rush made.
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Old 10-01-2003, 09:55 PM   #65
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The left uses blacks to get votes, at least they give something in return. The right are the people who run the economy in black areas and rape them for every cent they have.

Anyway ESPN isn't the place for political discussion. They were just asking for it having Rush on there.
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I don't think what Rush said is racist. If he said "He's black and shouldn't be glorified" THAT would be racist, but come on... he simply said what most of the world already thinks and believes.

If a black man, said that about a white quarterback, everyone would laugh and shrug it off. I'm white... I couldn't care less if a black person calls me whitey, honky... whatever. There's just as many prejudice black people, as there are prejudice white people.

While I think what history did with slaves and discrimination is HORRIFYING and inexcusable, I do not believe blacks should keep playing the race card in the year 2003 and beyond. Sure they are still discriminated against, but every race and religion has someone who discriminates against them.

In the past 40 years, the media has treated any type of race related comments, with kids gloves. I'm sick of political correctness. It's getting old. Walking on egg shells all the time, afraid who you may or may not offend.

I'm not saying it's ok to make racial comments or to be a bigot, but there's a big difference between saying something with HATE and saying something, that is basically true. The media and society both want to glorify blacks and others, simply because they are black.

Some people think it's ok to have a black quota in colleges, but think what Rush said is wrong. Puh-lease, a college quota is accepted by society/media but a quarter back quota would be wrong? They should make up their mind and start judging PEOPLE, black, white, asian, albino, on their skills and abilities. I think there are stupid black people... same as I think there's a lot of stupid white people. I don't think of them as what race they are, when I think they are stupid. I just think of them as a stupid PERSON.

All the blacks and other minorities, women included, even though I am a woman, keep fighting for "equal rights", yet they keep segregating themselves, by continuing to put a spotlight, on what they do as being "extra special". It's getting old and cliche... No one should receive special treatment or recognition based on what race or religion they are. In a perfect world, everyone should be judged based on their own abilities and accomplishments.

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Leave it to an ignorant liberal to disect a statement, take half of what it actually says and make a quote out of it.


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never head of the quarterback so can't really comment on whether what he said is true or not.. It is quite annoying that he can't say this if it's what he believes, what he said doesn't sound particularly racist to me.. Sounds like he touched a raw nerve actually.

wonder if he just said it to get a rise..
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wonder if he just said it to get a rise..
He said it to divert media attention away from the fact that Karl Rove is about to be led away from the white house in handcuffs. Which by the way will be the greatest single day in American history.
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ROFL!!! Not only is Limbaugh the Great Windbag in hot water over at ESPN, now he's the focus of a drug probe. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, let's see how far it goes up his ass.


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Talk radio star had drug habit, maid sez

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Talk-radio titan Rush Limbaugh is being investigated for allegedly buying thousands of addictive painkillers from a black-market drug ring.
The moralizing motormouth was turned in by his former housekeeper - who says she was Limbaugh's pill supplier for four years.

Wilma Cline, 42, says Limbaugh was hooked on the potent prescription drugs OxyContin, Lorcet and hydrocodone - and went through detox twice.

"There were times when I worried," Cline told the National Enquirer, which broke the story in an edition being published today. "All these pills are enough to kill an elephant - never mind a man."

Cline could not be reached for further comment yesterday, but her lawyer, Ed Shohat of Miami, said his client "stands behind the story."

The Daily News independently confirmed that Limbaugh is under investigation.

His lawyers, Jerry Fox and Dan Zachary, refused to comment on the accusations and said any "medical information" about him was private and not newsworthy.

They said Limbaugh - who has a top-rated syndicated radio show but resigned early today from a weekly ESPN football segment amid criticism of racial comments about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb - was traveling and had no comment.

The Palm Beach County state attorney's office, which is running the probe, said it could not confirm or deny the allegations.

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Cline told the Enquirer she went to prosecutors with information about Limbaugh and others after four years of drug deals that included clandestine handoffs in a Denny's parking lot.

She said she wore a wire during her last two deliveries to the conservative commentator and gave the tapes to authorities.

She also gave the Enquirer a ledger documenting how many pills she claimed to have bought for him - 4,350 in one 47-day period - and E-mails she claimed Limbaugh sent her.

In one missive, Limbaugh pushed Cline to get more "little blues" - code for OxyContin, the powerful narcotic nicknamed hillbilly heroin, she said.

"You know how this stuff works ... the more you get used to, the more it takes," the May 2002 E-mail reads. "But I will try and cut down to help out."

The account Cline gave the Enquirer is that she became Limbaugh's drug connection in 1998, nine months after taking a housekeeping job at his Palm Beach mansion.

It started after her husband, David, hurt himself in a fall, and Limbaugh asked how he was.

"He asked me casually, 'Is he getting any pain medication?' I said, 'Yes - he's had surgery, and the doctor gave him hydro-codone 750,'" Cline said. "To my astonishment, he said, 'Can you spare a couple of them?'"

Husband's pills

Cline said she gave Limbaugh 10 pills the next day and agreed to give him 30 of her husband's pills each month. When the doctor stopped renewing the prescription in early 1999, Limbaugh allegedly went ballistic.

"His tone was nasty and bullying. He said, 'I don't care how or what you do, but you'd better - better! - get me some more,'" Cline said.

The housekeeper said she found a new supplier and arranged to hide Limbaugh's stashes under his mattress so his wife, Marta, wouldn't find them.

After several months, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox and didn't need any more pills, Cline said.

But a month later, he said his left ear was hurting and asked her for hydrocodone, followed by an order for OxyContin.

Limbaugh, 52, suffered from autoimmune ear disease, a condition that left him deaf and had to be corrected with cochlear implant surgery two years ago.

Cline said she continued to make deliveries to Limbaugh even after she quit as his housekeeper in July 2001 - but he became increasingly paranoid, even patting her down for recording devices, she said.

In June 2002, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox a second time.

After he returned, "I went to talk to him, and he cried a little bit," she said. "He told me that if it ever got out, he would be ruined."

She claimed that a lawyer for Limbaugh gave her a payoff - $80,000 he owed her, plus another $120,000 - and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the E-mail records.

Soon after, Cline and her husband retained Shohat and contacted prosecutors.


Feeling no pain


The drugs Rush Limbaugh is accused of abusing are legal only with a doctor's prescription. All are habit-forming.

- Hydrocodone

Anti-cough agent and painkiller similar to morphine. Side effects include anxiety, poor mental performance, emotional dependence, drowsiness, mood changes, difficulty breathing and itchiness.

- Lorcet

Brand name for the combination of Tylenol and hydrocodone, prescribed for moderate to severe pain. Side effects include dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, decreased appetite, dizziness, tiredness, muscle twitches, sweating and itching.

- OxyContin

Potent time-release medication for relief of moderate to severe pain, known as hillbilly heroin because of black-market popularity in some rural areas. Side effects include drowsiness, dizziness, sweating, muscle twitches and decreased sex drive. A large dose can be fatal.

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Old 10-02-2003, 02:43 AM   #72
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So freedom of speech is allowed as long as it isn't with "racist comments"?
There are always limits on free speech...

Especially when somebody else is paying your wages and therefore reviews what you can and can not say.

Take the net you can do any type of sites you like...say anything you like etc. But, you can't get paid on them by sponsors.

Try it! Complain about it! lol.

People can't say whatever they like on GFY either...try it! LOL.

The mantel of free speech doesn't protect you from the consequences of that speech.

That seems to be what a lot of people are suggesting.

Pretty much played out by ESPN/Disney like I thought...I don't think they want every player in the NFL spouting their political beliefs during interviews...

Although, it might be interesting for laughs.
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He said it to divert media attention away from the fact that Karl Rove is about to be led away from the white house in handcuffs. Which by the way will be the greatest single day in American history.
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BVF, uranidiot -

You're both so insecure you can't help but going around calling everyone racist instead in lieu of simply having a civil conversation. If you want to start name calling there are plenty of people around GFY that deserve it and I'm not one of them.

If what Rush said was bad then how you're acting is even worse. I'm not a racist or a bigot and to say I am is nothing short of libel. Just because I don't contrive the same meaning out of what he said as you do doesn't mean that either of your slurs or derrogatory comments towards me are correct or justified.

I'm done with this thread. While I'm gone, why don't you blame me for the assasination of MLK, Malcolm X, slavery and whatever the fuck else you can think of. Since those tragedies are all the fault of white men you might as well send some of your hate my way since hating is what you seem to get off on. If you had a point in this thread it was lost the moment you decided to start calling every white person that didn't agree with you a racist.

That's OK though, if you want to be fucktards and reason like first graders that's your perrogative... this is GoFuckYourself after all.

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I pointed out he was black only because I'm racist.
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There are some dumb fucking black people on this board.
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BVF, uranidiot -

You're both so insecure you can't help but going around calling everyone racist instead in lieu of simply having a civil conversation. If you want to start name calling there are plenty of people around GFY that deserve it and I'm not one of them.

If what Rush said was bad then how you're acting is even worse. I'm not a racist or a bigot and to say I am is nothing short of libel. Just because I don't contrive the same meaning out of what he said as you do doesn't mean that either of your slurs or derrogatory comments towards me are correct or justified.

I'm done with this thread. While I'm gone, why don't you blame me for the assasination of MLK, Malcolm X, slavery and whatever the fuck else you can think of. Since those tragedies are all the fault of white men you might as well send some of your hate my way since hating is what you seem to get off on. If you had a point in this thread it was lost the moment you decided to start calling every white person that didn't agree with you a racist.

That's OK though, if you want to be fucktards and reason like first graders that's your perrogative... this is GoFuckYourself after all.

Cheers,

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cry me a fucking river....YOU'RE the one who came out with the "bleeding heart liberal" bullshit...I just pointed out the ignorance of what you're saying....I NEVER called you a racist...I called Rush a racist...I just called YOU blind and deaf...And YOU'RE the one who came at me with "Go Fuck Yourself"...

Why the fuck would I blame you for SLAVERY and Malcolm X? You weren't even alive at the time....Plus Malcom had a run in with the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan himself said that he believes that he contributed to the death of Malcom X...

So stop being the pot calling the kettle black and quit being so sensitive...
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Idiots on the right attacked the Dixie Chicks and got them kicked off radio and thought it was just fine.

Payback is a bitch.
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The media and society both want to glorify blacks and others, simply because they are black.


you actually believe that shit?
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you actually believe that shit?
Hmmmm --

Let's see...

If you don't think the NFL knows their demographics to a 'T' you're fucking kidding yourself.

Who buys the NFL Sunday Ticket, who owns season tickets, etc.

The NFL is LOSING black youth to basketball, because basketball has done such a good job of promoting black athletes that deserve it.

The NFL tries to increase their market share every year....

Recently it's been black QB's.

Soon it will be Asian linemen. If you don't think that the NFL is salivating after the rise of MLB in the Far East you are a moron.
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Hmmmm --

Let's see...

If you don't think the NFL knows their demographics to a 'T' you're fucking kidding yourself.

Who buys the NFL Sunday Ticket, who owns season tickets, etc.

The NFL is LOSING black youth to basketball, because basketball has done such a good job of promoting black athletes that deserve it.

The NFL tries to increase their market share every year....

Recently it's been black QB's.

Soon it will be Asian linemen. If you don't think that the NFL is salivating after the rise of MLB in the Far East you are a moron.


so you actually believe that more blacks are buying season tickets and the nfl sunday ticket?

and please explain to me how you come to the conclusion that the nfl is losing black atheletes to the nba.

her comment was that the media wants to glorify blacks which is total bullshit. the media doesn't want to glorify blacks because if they did then they wouldn't be crucified for every single thing that they do.
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so you actually believe that more blacks are buying season tickets and the nfl sunday ticket?

and please explain to me how you come to the conclusion that the nfl is losing black atheletes to the nba.

her comment was that the media wants to glorify blacks which is total bullshit. the media doesn't want to glorify blacks because if they did then they wouldn't be crucified for every single thing that they do.
don't bother with that idiot nap....you can watch any nfl game on tv and look in the stands and you see a sea of white folks....it's always been like that....hell even in rap music, 70% of the folks who buy it are white....
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:41 PM   #83
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i think what has happend to the nba and happening to the nfl isnt a good thing. Its not good for the game to be all black, just as it woudnt be good being all white.

The result is a bad product that is too based on athleticism and not fundamentals.

The nba in the 80s was a far better product.

Most of the fans buying tickets and ppv are white beer drinking types. I dont think they are all that pro black.

The younger kids are more into black stuff because they are impressionable and looking to rebel and have the rap music spoon fed to them, but they grow out of it. Theres not too many white guys over 25 that are into rap that arent total losers.
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:47 PM   #84
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so you actually believe that more blacks are buying season tickets and the nfl sunday ticket?
No -- I believe that's what the NFL is aiming for...

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and please explain to me how you come to the conclusion that the nfl is losing black atheletes to the nba.
I didn't come to that conclusion.

Maybe your reeding compruhenson needs some work... I was talking about losing fans.
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Old 10-02-2003, 12:57 PM   #85
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I didn't come to that conclusion.

Maybe your reeding compruhenson needs some work... I was talking about losing fans.

i'm still trying to see how you are justifying the media promoting black athletes that deserve it.. please explain. allen iverson(since you want to use the nba as an example) deserves praise yet he is still labeled a thug. granted he finally made the dream team but thats probably because not many others have wanted participate in the game. shaq(still staying with basketball) is now looked to be as lazy and i've even heard announcers say he lacks passion and is washed up. oh yea the media sure is hyping up one of the best centers to ever play the game.

the only player that the media is promoting right now is the young buck from ohio, lebron james and he sure as hell doesn't deserve it. so i'm waiting on you to backup your statements.





your comment "The NFL is LOSING black youth to basketball, because basketball has done such a good job of promoting black athletes that deserve it." is your opinion. if it's not then PLEASE prove it.



oh yea and compruhenson, comprehension maybe?
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oh yea and compruhenson, comprehension maybe?
You make me laugh... the reeding before compruhenson didn't register -- heh?

If you think the NFL doesn't want the inner-city following the NBA has you're nuts.

I'll bore you with the stats tomorrow. I have work to do.
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You make me laugh... the reeding before compruhenson didn't register -- heh?

If you think the NFL doesn't want the inner-city following the NBA has you're nuts.

I'll bore you with the stats tomorrow. I have work to do.

i've commented on everything you claimed , and corrected your spelling. i will do it again, "reading", not reeding. whenever you have your stats present i will respond. what makes you think that "inner city" youth's don't follow football is beyond me. sounds like you are talking out of your ass, again.
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Old 10-02-2003, 01:21 PM   #89
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i think what has happend to the nba and happening to the nfl isnt a good thing. Its not good for the game to be all black, just as it woudnt be good being all white.

The result is a bad product that is too based on athleticism and not fundamentals.

The nba in the 80s was a far better product.

Most of the fans buying tickets and ppv are white beer drinking types. I dont think they are all that pro black.

The younger kids are more into black stuff because they are impressionable and looking to rebel and have the rap music spoon fed to them, but they grow out of it. Theres not too many white guys over 25 that are into rap that arent total losers.
you must be kiddding me. I know a couple of white guys over 25 that listen to rap that can buy and sell you
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