Yishai... scary sounding stuff (even if it's a little old). - GoFuckYourself.com

quiet · 10-01-2003, 03:27 AM

http://www.lukeford.com/archives/updates/000817.htm

from lukeford.com (above):

Brad Shaw phones in.

Brad: "You want to talk about the downfall of Serge? One day he woke up and all his clicks were gone. He was sending 90% of his traffic to Yishai and behind the site he was popping a consul. So he was really sending two hits for every one hit. And eventually Yishai smartened up to it.

"And on top of that, Serge was buying worse and worse traffic, from blind links, and his [conversion] ratios plunged... And Serge couldn't do anything with all his traffic because nobody wanted to buy it. So he started lowering what he was paying... So the people who were sending him traffic, decided to go straight to Yishai and deal with him directly. And it all came down on one night."

Lee: "I thought he retired voluntarily?"

Brad: "He claims he made $32 million in 1999 and I can believe it. He's brokering one to two million hits a day. Buying the traffic for three to four cents and selling it for six and seven cents. That's a lot of money."

Lee: "You don't think the FTC is going to come down on him?"

Brad: "I actually talked to the FTC last year. They were monitoring the Netpond board. Someone contacted me. And of course they've looked into [the Crescent Publishing] sites which promised 'Your credit card will not be billed'...

"People will talk about Serge and say anything bad about anyone, but people are afraid to say anything bad about Yishai."

Lee: "Why, do you think Yishai is going to put cement boots on us and drop us over the bridge?"

Brad: "When I was introduced to Yishai... The person who introduced me said, 'Don't ever say anything bad about this guy, Brad. He'll have you taken care of.' And he was dead serious."

Luke: "What do you know about Yishai?"

Brad: "I know how he runs his sites, which everyone knows. Obviously I feel that it is bad for our industry. But right now it is too late. The harm has already been done. The guy has made a fortune, $100 million, $200 million, $300 million, there's no telling. How the guy gets credit card accounts, I'll never know."

Lee: "You know they have this guy under investigation."

Brad: "Oh sure they do."

Lee: "Do you think Yishai's affiliated with organized crime?"

Brad: "I won't touch that one with a ten foot pole."

Lee: "I don't blame you. I think we all know that answer."

calm · 10-01-2003, 03:37 AM

nevermind

quiet · 10-01-2003, 03:38 AM

if you say so...

Theo · 10-01-2003, 03:38 AM

Yishai is the owner of profit plantation. From clicks to calls.

calm · 10-01-2003, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
if you say so...

...that's the point. That used to be an article...

quiet · 10-01-2003, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by calm

...that's the point. That used to be an article...

umm, luke ford no longer runs lukeford.com. netvideogirls owned it for about a year. then someone else took it over.

anyway, the link at the top of this thread still works just fine...

calm · 10-01-2003, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

umm, luke ford no longer runs lukeford.com. netvideogirls owned it for about a year. then someone else took it over.

anyway, the link at the top of this thread still works just fine...

nevermind. don't think anybody is getting what I'm saying, my fault. cheers

quiet · 10-01-2003, 03:55 AM

- and i get exactly what you're trying to say.

Jer · 10-01-2003, 04:01 AM

Very interesting interview.

Jer · 10-01-2003, 04:06 AM

Serge's stats were VERY interesting too

stats_jer.html or something like that

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
http://www.lukeford.com/archives/updates/000817.htm

from lukeford.com (above):

Brad Shaw phones in.

Brad: "He claims he made $32 million in 1999 and I can believe it. He's brokering one to two million hits a day. Buying the traffic for three to four cents and selling it for six and seven cents. That's a lot of money."

Brad in those days would believe ANYTHING....I wish I claimed I made $132,000,000 in my spare time out of my father's garage
;-)))))

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
Serge's stats were VERY interesting too

stats_jer.html or something like that

I used 2 algorithms

1) Elvis Presly Algorithm:
"One for the money, 2 for the show,
3 to get ready ...and go, go, go!"

2) Carol Cox acounting advice:
"One for me and one for you, 4 for me and 2 for you, 10 for me and 4 for you..."

anything wrong with that???

it's MUCH more fairier than the systems paysites use TODAY!
;-))))

Jer · 10-01-2003, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

I used 2 algorithms

1) Elvis Presly Algorithm:
"One for the money, 2 for the show,
3 to get ready ...and go, go, go!"

2) Carol Cox acounting advice:
"One for me and one for you, 4 for me and 2 for you, 10 for me and 4 for you..."

anything wrong with that???

it's MUCH more fairier than the systems paysites use TODAY!
;-))))

I have nothing against the stats system you used, it was good.

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer

I have nothing against the stats system you used, it was good.

not only it was the best, but it was TESTED by the ultimate test and it PASSED!

http://www.cotac.com/Italy03/Rome/do-I-Shave%20u.JPG

Zebra · 10-01-2003, 10:30 AM

Serge - Did you and Sue lose your hands to that giant happy cookie?

Gonna give me nightmares! That thing is freaky!

BradShaw · 10-01-2003, 10:35 AM

I love Serge, I love Yishai, I love JoeE, I love everyone. Reading some of that 3 year old luke ford stuff can be pretty funny. I should have been busy making $ and not running my mouth about people making more $ than I.

voodooman · 10-01-2003, 10:50 AM

Brad,

The reason you are where you are today, is because
you ran your mouth on Ynot YEARS ago. You pissed
with everone, made a name for yourself, now you
can sit back, fish, and let the kids of GFY tell you
what a loser you are.

As Serge used to say.

You've come a long way baby.

jaYMan · 10-01-2003, 10:57 AM

ahhhh... memories!!!!

;)

Shok · 10-01-2003, 11:03 AM

If it wasn't for me these pisses would have not been nearly as good.

With such great posts as "Kick his ass Brad!",
"Don't take that shit Serge!", or the always classic, "FM is gonna wear your ass as a boot!", I'd like to feel I have contributed something to the history of online porn.

voodooman · 10-01-2003, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
If it wasn't for me these pisses would have not been nearly as good.

With such great posts as "Kick his ass Brad!",
"Don't take that shit Serge!", or the always classic, "FM is gonna wear your ass as a boot!", I'd like to feel I have contributed something to the history of online porn.

haha, you always was the instigator.

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
If it wasn't for me these pisses would have not been nearly as good.

With such great posts as "Kick his ass Brad!",
"Don't take that shit Serge!", or the always classic, "FM is gonna wear your ass as a boot!", I'd like to feel I have contributed something to the history of online porn.

Shok,
I beleive you did....and this si our family belief
;-))))

Kimmykim · 10-01-2003, 12:13 PM

a little old? Geez.

voodooman · 10-01-2003, 12:33 PM

Speaking of old,

What happend to the girl that was streewalking
the world?

Did she get lost?

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
a little old? Geez.

I am the oldest in thsi thread...
I saw JFK while he was still alive!

quiet · 10-01-2003, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
a little old? Geez.

Shok · 10-01-2003, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by voodooman
Speaking of old,

What happend to the girl that was streewalking
the world?

Did she get lost?

baaahahahaha damn I forgot about those days.

what are some other things long forgotten?
shitman?

what else

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok

baaahahahaha damn I forgot about those days.

what are some other things long forgotten?
shitman?

what else

Seth Warshawsky and his 2 cents bounced checks...
I have them on my wall in 2 colors,
full set is available at $1000 a set!
;-))))

Shok · 10-01-2003, 01:12 PM

hahaha

whatever happened to Ryan (tranny) Lanaine or however it was spelled.

Or Robin....actually didn't he quit to start an old folks home or something?

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
hahaha

whatever happened to Ryan (tranny) Lanaine or however it was spelled.

Or Robin....actually didn't he quit to start an old folks home or something?

Ryan lost a bundle in hotel business...poker games didn't help either..
I saw him a few times on Oprano.

Robin....we tried, it didn't happen,
oh well....

voodooman · 10-01-2003, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

Seth Warshawsky and his 2 cents bounced checks...
I have them on my wall in 2 colors,
full set is available at $1000 a set!
;-))))

Thats still going on Serge.

Where you been? Italy?

Serge_Oprano · 10-01-2003, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by voodooman

Thats still going on Serge.

Where you been? Italy?

yes, and this si what I was doing....

BradShaw · 10-01-2003, 02:08 PM

Ryan was back for few weeks, can not seem to find him now though... He wrote me a rubber check;-)

EZRhino · 10-01-2003, 02:10 PM

Guys Who Blow Little Loads

voodooman · 10-01-2003, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

yes, and this si what I was doing....

Looking at art???

Kimmykim · 10-01-2003, 02:24 PM

Knotwork, Veronica Snake (just a name change there I think lol), Jody (streetwalking the world), BobX, Robin Nixon, Ryan Lanane, Jason Reiver, quite a few if you think about them

voodooman · 10-01-2003, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok

baaahahahaha damn I forgot about those days.

what are some other things long forgotten?
shitman?

what else

Webfathers weekely advice on domain names???

Shok · 10-01-2003, 07:18 PM

Knotwork!!!!!!!!!!!

hehehe

makefuckingmoney · 10-01-2003, 07:45 PM

Shok you should go down as the official fluffer of online porn.

It suits you!

and.. Im hard now!!

Thanks!

Chris

makefuckingmoney · 10-01-2003, 07:47 PM

I remember:

Terry from Tropics
DJ-JD
McRope
Andy Edmonds
and who can forget N-e-tpond Je-sus!

Chris

Kimmykim · 10-01-2003, 08:12 PM

How about that p0rnoman guy??? ;)

Adorno · 10-01-2003, 08:21 PM

DJ - JD, was that the guy that ran Texas Teases? What happened to him? I learned how to cheat XPics from that guy.

voodooman · 10-02-2003, 06:47 AM

Rumor has it that he was in a motorcycle accident in Texas,
and it was didnt make it.

This is just a rumor

Shok · 10-02-2003, 06:49 AM

he had a shiny suit, almost as shiny as kimmykims shorts

KRL · 10-02-2003, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serge_Oprano

Seth Warshawsky and his 2 cents bounced checks...
I have them on my wall in 2 colors,
full set is available at $1000 a set!
;-))))

I'm still surprised how many of us would get checks in the amount of 2 cents and not say to ourselves, "What's wrong with this picture?".

I have mine hanging also.

12clicks · 10-02-2003, 07:15 AM

someone should sweet talk khan into posting the old Ynot archives.
I don't think there is ANYONE from the old days who wouldn't like to see them.

Shit, I'd love to see my old posts as a newbie.

Shok · 10-02-2003, 07:18 AM

your still a newbie

but a cute one

12clicks · 10-02-2003, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
your still a newbie

but a cute one

the tranny world is tough to break into.
they don't just accept every girl with a moustache that stumbles in.

TheGuyWhoKnows · 10-02-2003, 07:35 AM

hehe.. speaking of old time... what was the name of the " Girls band" that was invited from UK at some shows...

i remember talking with nicolaGirl back then... they used to hang out with us in miami and Vegas... they were also close to the australian family! ;-)

ring a bell?

TGWK

voodooman · 10-02-2003, 07:37 AM

'nuff said'

dantheman · 10-02-2003, 07:54 AM

how about catman?

12clicks your looking good these days ;)

10-01-2003, 03:27 AM	#1
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	Yishai... scary sounding stuff (even if it's a little old). http://www.lukeford.com/archives/updates/000817.htm from lukeford.com (above): Brad Shaw phones in. Brad: "You want to talk about the downfall of Serge? One day he woke up and all his clicks were gone. He was sending 90% of his traffic to Yishai and behind the site he was popping a consul. So he was really sending two hits for every one hit. And eventually Yishai smartened up to it. "And on top of that, Serge was buying worse and worse traffic, from blind links, and his [conversion] ratios plunged... And Serge couldn't do anything with all his traffic because nobody wanted to buy it. So he started lowering what he was paying... So the people who were sending him traffic, decided to go straight to Yishai and deal with him directly. And it all came down on one night." Lee: "I thought he retired voluntarily?" Brad: "He claims he made $32 million in 1999 and I can believe it. He's brokering one to two million hits a day. Buying the traffic for three to four cents and selling it for six and seven cents. That's a lot of money." Lee: "You don't think the FTC is going to come down on him?" Brad: "I actually talked to the FTC last year. They were monitoring the Netpond board. Someone contacted me. And of course they've looked into [the Crescent Publishing] sites which promised 'Your credit card will not be billed'... "People will talk about Serge and say anything bad about anyone, but people are afraid to say anything bad about Yishai." Lee: "Why, do you think Yishai is going to put cement boots on us and drop us over the bridge?" Brad: "When I was introduced to Yishai... The person who introduced me said, 'Don't ever say anything bad about this guy, Brad. He'll have you taken care of.' And he was dead serious." Luke: "What do you know about Yishai?" Brad: "I know how he runs his sites, which everyone knows. Obviously I feel that it is bad for our industry. But right now it is too late. The harm has already been done. The guy has made a fortune, $100 million, $200 million, $300 million, there's no telling. How the guy gets credit card accounts, I'll never know." Lee: "You know they have this guy under investigation." Brad: "Oh sure they do." Lee: "Do you think Yishai's affiliated with organized crime?" Brad: "I won't touch that one with a ten foot pole." Lee: "I don't blame you. I think we all know that answer." __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-01-2003, 03:37 AM	#2
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10-01-2003, 03:38 AM	#3
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	if you say so... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-01-2003, 03:55 AM	#8
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	- and i get exactly what you're trying to say. __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

10-01-2003, 10:30 AM	#15
Zebra Banned from Kimmy's couch Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Down at Fraggle Rock Posts: 5,091	Serge - Did you and Sue lose your hands to that giant happy cookie? Gonna give me nightmares! That thing is freaky! __________________ Old School

10-01-2003, 03:38 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Yishai is the owner of profit plantation. From clicks to calls.

10-01-2003, 04:01 AM	#9
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	Very interesting interview.

10-01-2003, 04:06 AM	#10
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	Serge's stats were VERY interesting too stats_jer.html or something like that

10-01-2003, 10:35 AM	#16
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	I love Serge, I love Yishai, I love JoeE, I love everyone. Reading some of that 3 year old luke ford stuff can be pretty funny. I should have been busy making $ and not running my mouth about people making more $ than I. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-01-2003, 10:50 AM	#17
voodooman Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 801	Brad, The reason you are where you are today, is because you ran your mouth on Ynot YEARS ago. You pissed with everone, made a name for yourself, now you can sit back, fish, and let the kids of GFY tell you what a loser you are. As Serge used to say. You've come a long way baby.

10-01-2003, 10:57 AM	#18
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	ahhhh... memories!!!! ;) __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan

10-01-2003, 11:03 AM	#19
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	If it wasn't for me these pisses would have not been nearly as good. With such great posts as "Kick his ass Brad!", "Don't take that shit Serge!", or the always classic, "FM is gonna wear your ass as a boot!", I'd like to feel I have contributed something to the history of online porn.

10-01-2003, 12:13 PM	#22
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	a little old? Geez.

10-01-2003, 12:33 PM	#23
voodooman Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 801	Speaking of old, What happend to the girl that was streewalking the world? Did she get lost?

10-01-2003, 01:12 PM	#28
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	hahaha whatever happened to Ryan (tranny) Lanaine or however it was spelled. Or Robin....actually didn't he quit to start an old folks home or something?

10-01-2003, 02:08 PM	#32
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Ryan was back for few weeks, can not seem to find him now though... He wrote me a rubber check;-) __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

10-01-2003, 02:10 PM	#33
EZRhino Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: couch Posts: 6,258	Guys Who Blow Little Loads

10-01-2003, 02:24 PM	#35
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Knotwork, Veronica Snake (just a name change there I think lol), Jody (streetwalking the world), BobX, Robin Nixon, Ryan Lanane, Jason Reiver, quite a few if you think about them

10-01-2003, 07:18 PM	#37
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	Knotwork!!!!!!!!!!! hehehe

10-01-2003, 07:45 PM	#38
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	Shok you should go down as the official fluffer of online porn. It suits you! and.. Im hard now!! Thanks! Chris

10-01-2003, 07:47 PM	#39
makefuckingmoney Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,277	I remember: Terry from Tropics DJ-JD McRope Andy Edmonds and who can forget N-e-tpond Je-sus! Chris

10-01-2003, 08:12 PM	#40
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	How about that p0rnoman guy??? ;)

10-01-2003, 08:21 PM	#41
Adorno So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 303	DJ - JD, was that the guy that ran Texas Teases? What happened to him? I learned how to cheat XPics from that guy.

10-02-2003, 06:47 AM	#42
voodooman Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 801	Rumor has it that he was in a motorcycle accident in Texas, and it was didnt make it. This is just a rumor

10-02-2003, 06:49 AM	#43
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	he had a shiny suit, almost as shiny as kimmykims shorts

10-02-2003, 07:15 AM	#45
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	someone should sweet talk khan into posting the old Ynot archives. I don't think there is ANYONE from the old days who wouldn't like to see them. Shit, I'd love to see my old posts as a newbie. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

10-02-2003, 07:18 AM	#46
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	your still a newbie but a cute one

10-02-2003, 07:35 AM	#48
TheGuyWhoKnows Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Quebec city, Canada Posts: 160	hehe.. speaking of old time... what was the name of the " Girls band" that was invited from UK at some shows... i remember talking with nicolaGirl back then... they used to hang out with us in miami and Vegas... they were also close to the australian family! ;-) ring a bell? TGWK

10-02-2003, 07:37 AM	#49
voodooman Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 801	'nuff said'

10-02-2003, 07:54 AM	#50
dantheman OG Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,308	how about catman? 12clicks your looking good these days ;) __________________ M3server.com VPS>Get your 2nd month free Ded>$100 off your 2nd month since 1996 icq-25135623 dannyh at~m3server DOT com