IE is 100% crap. Outlook is 100% pure shit. Glad I never used Outlook. Was forced 2 use IE to check my pages.

Personally, I would NOT recommend Mozilla. I have been working on a mainstream Website for months now, doing both the coding and the design. And if there is one thing I can tell you about Mozilla, is that the makers are far far behind in development on Netscape and Internet Explorer.

Sure, Internet Explorer seems to ignore almost every code fault, but Mozilla seems to be the other way around. I coded this site according to XHTML Strict W3C standards, and to give you an example, when I tried to put in the Strict tag in my code, Mozilla would fuck up the whole design (images which were supposed to be connected, suddenly were spaced out). Putting a standard tag back in the code, and everything went back to normal. WTF?

Creating a Website that looks exactly the same in Internet Explorer as in Mozilla is not easy. Simply because you have to take a step back when it comes to putting features in your Website. Therefore, when you surf with Mozilla, don't expect to see many Websites like they were supposed to be coded.

Plus yeah, it is much much slower than Internet Explorer when you havent got that autoload thingie turned on. My advice is, to keep using Internet Explorer, and when the time is ripe and Mozilla has reached a level so that it can really compete to Internet Explorer, switch over. Why do you think it's called 1.5Beta? It's a BETA!

Seb.

I read this entire spiel thinking I would not repsond, but then I got to the last thing you said about it being a beta and realized I would no longer contain my comments.

The 1.5 beta version is not the current release. The current version/release is 1.4. The website clearly states the 1.5 is in a testing stage. Thus if you download/install the same you are agreeing to be a beta tester.

Furthermore most people surfing the net do not run out to upgrade their hardware/software the minute a new one comes along. You should avail yourself of the information that can be queried from people visitng your site[s] and/or sending you email. I know I do and susrprisingly a large number of people are still running Win98.

As a result state of the art programming in websites often turns away/off a large percentage of surfers who:

- Dont feel like installing a plugin at the moment.
- Dont feel like upgrading their browser at the moment.
- May not know how to do either.
- May be surfing on a system where they do not have rights to install necessary software/plugins eg: from work.
- May not be able to afford necessary to upgrades to their hardware/software.
- May be unwilling to spend the money to upgrade their hardware/software simply because they see the internet as something they rarely surf.

Last but not least remember that it is better to be thought a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt!

Mozilla has a potentially devistating bug for many users. It doesn't properly free up RAM after it's done using it. As soon as I open Mozilla, 30-45 minutes later it takes my computer out. It starts out with page rendering problems within the program, and then eventually all my other programs freeze up.

The only thing I can conclude from your statement is that Mozilla is indeed still too buggy too use, as I stated also. Version 1.4 is perhaps more stable than the 1.5 beta version, but it is also an older version and hence contains less improvements. Is that what you were trying to say?

Seb.

Man, it seems a lot of the anti-mozilla people here do not realize that the pro-mozilla people here are not talking about the old mozilla but the brand new mozilla firebird. it was completely rewritten. and is just plain awsome.

ever since i read that joel spolsky had changed his browser to mozilla firebird i gave it a shot. i liket it so much its now my default browser.

I agree with you there!

jDoG

i guess im missing alot of nice software(s) today. Though i haven't tried Mozilla yet...maybe soon.

I hope Bill Gates is aware of this... maybe he'll try to buy them out later.

wow, no audio ads??? I think i might have to give it a try! I could even take Mutt and a few others off of my ignore list!

Nobody can buy mozilla and you will never be able to download a new IE version because microsoft wants to put only new versions of the IE in there new operation system. The only way than to get a new IE explorer version is by buying a new windows

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Mozilla Firebird is a damn good lightweight browser. It still has a couple of memory leaks, but I never had any problems with it. :D

As much as I dislike M$ I like ie better it displays html much better & with more css & html features.

just my :2 cents:

moziila may not be that safe i had a auto install dialer load through mozilla

that shouldn't matter what browser you use. it depends the kind of security settings you have set.

I liked IE 5.0 best, but now I have to use IE 6 because of a program that requires it. IE 6 takes forever to load popup windows. IE 5 was much faster.

I use Hyperterminal for browsing, personally.

¯Overscore¯

That is not true.

I agree that Mozilla will typically take longer to load than IE, but I feel it's well worth the wait. The only time I use IE is when I need to look at something I designed or use Outlook Web Access. And now that Mozilla supports NTLM authentication, it is perfect.

¯Overscore¯

I've honestly seen very little difference between IE and Mozilla Firebird.

The big difference is MF doesn't take over all machine resources, is more secure, and is damn quick.

Why Amp gets so zealous about one certain technology I'll never understand :1orglaugh