Ok the math of these new programs does not make sense.. - GoFuckYourself.com

Ketadream · 09-25-2003, 04:42 PM

Members join and pay 9.52$ Webmaster gets 25$....

Member has to stay 3 months before company see's a profit.
The premise is thats its to reduce chargebacks which would indicate no pre-checked cross sells, or funkey billing.

Someone want to break it down for me so I can understand this cause it looks like the only viable point of these from a business standpoint is they are a loss leader to promote the other higher paying sites (upsells) or to put more numbers through the billing system to reduce chargebacks...

detoxed · 09-25-2003, 04:45 PM

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh

Its obvious that ANY paysite makes money from more than just signups.

Broda · 09-25-2003, 04:45 PM

sure...

they expect surfers to stay far longer than 3 months...

and, did you notice the cross-sells? add that to the up-sells and it's a no-brainer, really ;)

chowda · 09-25-2003, 04:46 PM

this one time, i was threw a stick, and i ran. and then the stick hit me. true story.

NedFLanders · 09-25-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by chowda
this one time, i was threw a stick, and i ran. and then the stick hit me. true story.

Dude thats x-files material right there.

Ketadream · 09-25-2003, 04:48 PM

Broda my man...

Ok sure but the cross sales point was that there not checked cross sales or that would defeat the purpose of keeping the price under 10$ so they where less likely to charge back...

Yea, upsells...Email address is viable. But it means they are loss leaders and thats the point I was trying to get around my head.

bhutocracy · 09-25-2003, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Ketadream

Yea, upsells...Email address is viable. But it means they are loss leaders and thats the point I was trying to get around my head.

they have a nasty little chain of pop ups and exit consoles.

Sly_RJ · 09-25-2003, 04:55 PM

The same can be said for most programs. Getting paid $35 for a $3.95 trial? WTF? Sure, membership is $39.95 monthly, but every trial doesn't go to full. Most trials don't go to full.

However, cash from the full membership does end up coming in. Email addresses of new members and old members get used up. Consoles. Cross-sells. Upsells.

It all adds up.

BRISK · 09-25-2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

they have a nasty little chain of pop ups and exit consoles.

Yup

H. Rap Brown · 09-25-2003, 06:44 PM

my motto is 'fuck the surfer'-how they make they money(progs) is no concren to me aslong as the checks are good....

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Ketadream Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Austin Posts: 1,373	Broda my man... Ok sure but the cross sales point was that there not checked cross sales or that would defeat the purpose of keeping the price under 10$ so they where less likely to charge back... Yea, upsells...Email address is viable. But it means they are loss leaders and thats the point I was trying to get around my head. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	AHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh Its obvious that ANY paysite makes money from more than just signups.

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