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GigaChris · 09-25-2003, 01:18 PM

I just read this

http://xbiz.com/articles/index.php?article_idp=680

TheEbonyFelony · 09-25-2003, 01:21 PM

sounds like an ultimatium to me

GrimShawn · 09-25-2003, 01:23 PM

GIGA DAMN! that's some shit

NBDesign · 09-25-2003, 01:24 PM

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Berman added that his company is giving the adult industry fair notice of the royalty hike and that a signed agreement needs to be received by Nov. 30 in order for companies to continue to take advantage of Acacia's introductory rates and waivers.

I cannot believe they can only target one group and have a valid lawsuit... How can tthey justify in a court of law that only one group should have to pay these stuipd fees?

Someone said that there is no money in mainstream sites so they target adult...

Ok.. CNN, MSNBC are broke? THey do not use a ton of video? Think of the $$ they could make from these two sites alone.

God loves america... land of the lawsuit.

SteveLightspeed · 09-25-2003, 01:24 PM

maybe we should all settle, then sue them for abuse of monopoly and unfair business practices.

just a thought, we are still in the fight.

zzgundamnzz · 09-25-2003, 01:25 PM

rooster · 09-25-2003, 01:26 PM

its sad that some companies took the sweetheart deal rather than fight the good fight. This acacia shit will blow over one way or another over the next year or so.

NBDesign · 09-25-2003, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
maybe we should all settle, then sue them for abuse of monopoly and unfair business practices.

just a thought, we are still in the fight.

Not a bad idea... actually a great idea... but getting everyone to stick together would be a real bitch....

GigaChris · 09-25-2003, 01:28 PM

InsaneGreen · 09-25-2003, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by GigaChris
I dont understand why they dont go after companies like Real networks, Microsoft & Apples Quicktime... These are the companies that make the players that allow us to veiw video content on the web

we need to email thhose companies ourselves and tell them what acacia is doing, and how much money they are gonna lose because we have to remove videos...

Oracle Porn · 09-25-2003, 01:31 PM

Centurion · 09-25-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign

I cannot believe they can only target one group and have a valid lawsuit... How can tthey justify in a court of law that only one group should have to pay these stuipd fees?

Someone said that there is no money in mainstream sites so they target adult...

Ok.. CNN, MSNBC are broke? THey do not use a ton of video? Think of the $$ they could make from these two sites alone.

God loves america... land of the lawsuit.

I wonder if Cnn..Fox, MSNBC, Nbc, Cbs, Abc, etc etc and all local news outlets have signed on with them and paid the "ransom" fee. I mean..they ALL use streaming media. Would be nice to hear something from the attornies of these "big boys" as to what they think and/or are going to do.

rooster · 09-25-2003, 01:33 PM

acacia wouldnt pick on those companies because they would get squashed.

They came up with a pretty good extortion scheme. Sue adult guys and use alot of legal heat to try and get some licenses. And using sweetheart deals on a handful of bigger companies to try and give credibility to their claims and get more companies to cave.

I think the end result will be much like their v-chip thing. It wil get invalidated and those that hold out will get the last laugh.

I would rather close my business than give those cocksuckers one red penny.

WiredGuy · 09-25-2003, 01:33 PM

Which companies are still actively fighting Acacia's patents and haven't settled other than Lightspeed? Any new updates on the Homegrown coalition?

WG

NetRodent · 09-25-2003, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by GigaChris
I dont understand why they dont go after companies like Real networks, Microsoft & Apples Quicktime... These are the companies that make the players that allow us to veiw video content on the web

It because they're after precedents. Acacia views the adult industry as "low hanging fruit". They obviously feel that its easier to intimidate and get legal judgements against adult companies than the likes of Microsoft.

Acacia invented nothing. If ANYONE is due royalties for the technology we're using its the following people:
http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/
http://www.icann.org/biog/cerf.htm
http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/index.htm

NBDesign · 09-25-2003, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by InsaneGreen

we need to email thhose companies ourselves and tell them what acacia is doing, and how much money they are gonna lose because we have to remove videos...

I called apple... no one called me back...

I wrote to Real Media's legal department and again.. nothing back...

I basically told them that I wanted to purchase their product to stream video.. told them my concerns about acacia and their patent and fees... asked if I purchased their program and streamed video if I would be responsible for these fees... and if so, why when I am paying for the software to create such files... again... nothing.

InsaneGreen · 09-25-2003, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by NBDesign

I called apple... no one called me back...

I wrote to Real Media's legal department and again.. nothing back...

I basically told them that I wanted to purchase their product to stream video.. told them my concerns about acacia and their patent and fees... asked if I purchased their program and streamed video if I would be responsible for these fees... and if so, why when I am paying for the software to create such files... again... nothing.

seemed like a good idea.

NBDesign · 09-25-2003, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by NetRodent

It because they're after precedents. Acacia views the adult industry as "low hanging fruit". They obviously feel that its easier to intimidate and get legal judgements against adult companies than the likes of Microsoft.

Acacia invented nothing. If ANYONE is due royalties for the technology we're using its the following people:
http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/
http://www.icann.org/biog/cerf.htm
http://www.chiariglione.org/mpeg/index.htm

Isn't that discrimination? I agree with the lightspeed post... we should sue them back... if anything for discrimination. Sorry... but that is the same as saying that blacks need to ride in the back of the bus...

plexer · 09-25-2003, 01:50 PM

NBDesign · 09-25-2003, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by InsaneGreen

seemed like a good idea.

Thought if they could make a sale they would care a bit more... I tried... all I can do.. cannot afford to go to court right now or I would be fighting this along with the big boys...

A good defense lawyer should bring up the fact they they are only targeting adult and if they really cared about protecting their pat. they would be going after EVERYONE that is streaming.. just like the RIAA is sueing 12 and 66 year olds... no discrimination there... but this is full on discrimination.

Strife · 09-25-2003, 01:58 PM

Dcat · 09-25-2003, 03:58 PM

hmm..

According to Acacia, they have 5 U.S. and 17 international patents on their DMT technology. Upon further examination, I see patents registered in the following countries:

United States (X5)
Taiwan
Mexico
Switzerland
France
Italy
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Sweden
Great Britain
Greece
Japan
Belgium
Spain
Monaco
Denmark
Germany
Austria

I notice that there are a few rather glaring omissions in the scope of their patents, namely Canada, and Australia. Does anyone know anything about this? Why would Acacia not file in Canada or Australia?

I'm curious to know if any Canadian or Australian companies have been contacted by Acacia yet?

ACACIA

Far-L · 09-25-2003, 04:00 PM

Acacia is targeting more than just Adult!!!

Acacia has also targeted online education.. in fact one school for disabled students shut down its program rather than pay or license.

We have a nice announcement coming up that should respond well to the issues that are raised here in this thread...

JMM · 09-25-2003, 04:03 PM

The companies that settled, settled. That is all I have to say on that.

The defense group is fighting. Homegrown, Video Secrets, Ademia, and others.

In the next day or so, you will see how strongly we are fighting. I believe that you will be pleased.

Ludedude · 09-25-2003, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Dcat
hmm..

.:snip:.

I notice that there are a few rather glaring omissions in the scope of their patents, namely Canada, and Australia. Does anyone know anything about this? Why would Acacia not file in Canada or Australia?

I'm curious to know if any Canadian or Australian companies have been contacted by Acacia yet?

ACACIA

It's my understanding that Acacia was denied a patent in Canada. I can't believe those fuckers got that right

NetRodent · 09-25-2003, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
Acacia is targeting more than just Adult!!!

Acacia has also targeted online education.. in fact one school for disabled students shut down its program rather than pay or license.

We have a nice announcement coming up that should respond well to the issues that are raised here in this thread...

Please keep us posted.

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rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	acacia wouldnt pick on those companies because they would get squashed. They came up with a pretty good extortion scheme. Sue adult guys and use alot of legal heat to try and get some licenses. And using sweetheart deals on a handful of bigger companies to try and give credibility to their claims and get more companies to cave. I think the end result will be much like their v-chip thing. It wil get invalidated and those that hold out will get the last laugh. I would rather close my business than give those cocksuckers one red penny.

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JMM Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,755	The companies that settled, settled. That is all I have to say on that. The defense group is fighting. Homegrown, Video Secrets, Ademia, and others. In the next day or so, you will see how strongly we are fighting. I believe that you will be pleased.