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Turboface · 09-25-2003, 03:56 PM

Check this out.

There's a new traffic site out there called 'adult traffic monster' that has been spammed on every single board out there. It's run by a person that goes by 'atmdude' who has just come out of nowhere. Well, something didn't smell right so I did a little homework.

I'm sure you all remember GeoHuck. He was spamming all the boards recently, including this one. I remember quite a few people were having problems with him. Well, I clicked on one of the PayPal links on adult traffic monster and the payee was a Geoffrey A. Huckabee. Hmmm.

So, I followed up his spam posts, on most of the boards he hit, with a little warning about what I had discovered. All of a sudden, 'atmdude' changes the PayPal account payee info and starts saying that he meerly bought this site, and two other ones, off of GeoHuck.

I busted him good and he wasn't happy about it at all. Check out this email that just got sent to me and my host:

***************************************

Greetings.

This is to inform you that an individual who is associated with your Internet website, (www.adulttrafficgenerator.com), known only at this time as "Turboface", has made numerous false, slanderous, and libelous public statements directed toward Mr. Jonathan Smithermann of Santa Monica, California and his Internet websites:

www.adulttrafficmonster.com
www.cheap-website-traffic.com
www.cheap-adult-traffic.com

The aforementioned statements made by this individual are very numerous: they are now a matter of public record, and are very well-documented. Proof of said false, slanderous, and libelous public statements, including the recorded I.P. address of the author, which have been posted on numerous Internet forums, are now being gathered from the individual webmasters/owners of said forums for purposes of proof in the event that the associated individual immediately ceases and desists from further false, slanderous, and libelous statements directed against Mr. Smithermann and his aforementioned Internet websites. As well, a clear pattern of intent to defame Mr. Smithermann and his Internet websites for purposes of furthering sales for the Internet website: www.adulttrafficgenerator.com has already been well established. Further, the webhosting firm which stores the HTML, images, and other files of www.adulttraficgenerator.com will not be held blameless and shall also be brought into a court of law as a willing accomplice to the perpetrator of the false, slanderous, and libelous statements associated with the Internet website: www.adulttrafficgenerator.com.

Please consider this a notification of our intent to sue all involved parties in a court of law for any or all three of the following:

Libel

Slander

Defamation Of Character

Unless the associated individual immediately and unconditionally ceases and desists from posting false, slanderous, and/or libelous statements directed toward Mr. Smithermann or either of his three aforementioned Internet websites, legal action will be swiftly taken against all involved parties by filing a suit for monetary damages in a court of law. This is the first and final warning before this action is taken.

Libel and slander are not accepted conduct in any public forum, even an Internet forum. We hope that all involved parties will accept these terms and take any preventative measures necessary to avoid legal action. However, if the defamation of character, and/or false statements, slander, or libel directed at Mr. Smithermann persists, have no doubt that legal action against all involved parties is imminent.

***************************************

This email was sent from a spoofed email address.

The real funny thing is that there is no 'Jonathan Smithermann' in Santa Monica, California - or anywhere else in the United States.

GeoHuck, atmdude, or whoever you want to call yourself, you have been owned.

Adult Site Traffic · 09-25-2003, 04:01 PM

Sic 'em Pat !

cali_22 · 09-25-2003, 04:02 PM

Adult Site Traffic · 09-25-2003, 04:04 PM

Oh, and ..

I own the patent on 'Jonathan Smithermann' .

Strife · 09-25-2003, 04:04 PM

GrimShawn · 09-25-2003, 04:04 PM

good luck bro

AaronM · 09-25-2003, 04:07 PM

DAMN!

I thought for sure he would fall for this.

Ross · 09-25-2003, 04:11 PM

Fuck...

Triple 6 · 09-25-2003, 04:12 PM

Pat, it smells like BS to me.

lock · 09-25-2003, 04:14 PM

the are sueing you but you have all the proof go figure.

mikeeee · 09-25-2003, 04:16 PM

Interesting, that is definetaly not written by an attorney.

Turboface · 09-25-2003, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mikeeee
Interesting, that is definetaly not written by an attorney.

That's for sure. My url was even misspelled once in that letter.

ZakAttack · 09-25-2003, 04:18 PM

LOL get used to the internet. People send bullshit lawsuit threats all the time because lots of ISPs and Hosts are scared shitless of them and will pull the plug. I bet 99% of all lawsuit threats on the internet are bullshit. That one doesn't even look like it was written by a lawyer, more like some idiot that watched Judge Judy a few times...

Juicy D. Links · 09-25-2003, 04:29 PM

Turbo Jizzzzzz no worry till you get something like thisssss

Greg B · 09-25-2003, 04:44 PM

Dude, you're not being 'sued'.

That's just a letter of 'intent' and not a good one at that. You don't send that stuff via email.

If you feel you're in the right, get an attorney and have them give you professional advice. There may be something in it on another venue for you.

Remember, in ALL legal matters get an attorney. Or just retain one just in case.

Jinx_Co · 09-25-2003, 04:53 PM

haha, I've gotten threats like that before just because someone was unhappy with a domain I registered and wanted it.

Turboface · 09-25-2003, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg B
Dude, you're not being 'sued'.

That's just a letter of 'intent'.

Perhaps you didn't read my entire post. At the end of it I said:

This email was sent from a spoofed email address.

The real funny thing is that there is no 'Jonathan Smithermann' in Santa Monica, California - or anywhere else in the United States.

beemk · 09-25-2003, 05:04 PM

busted

TomsPics · 09-25-2003, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turboface

Perhaps you didn't read my entire post. At the end of it I said:

This email was sent from a spoofed email address.

The real funny thing is that there is no 'Jonathan Smithermann' in Santa Monica, California - or anywhere else in the United States.

People seem to do that quite often here.

Greg B · 09-25-2003, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turboface

Perhaps you didn't read my entire post. At the end of it I said:

This email was sent from a spoofed email address.

The real funny thing is that there is no 'Jonathan Smithermann' in Santa Monica, California - or anywhere else in the United States.

Yes I see that. That and the structure of the email and the fact that no one in their right mind sends official legal info via an email.

Too many loopholes with 'email legals'.

HEARTBREAKER · 09-25-2003, 07:04 PM

goodluck and hope it will be resolved sooner!!!

WiredGuy · 09-25-2003, 07:15 PM

Juicy is right, once you get a thick package in the mail with attached exhibits and by registered mail, that's when its serious

WG

EscortBiz · 09-25-2003, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Juicy is right, once you get a thick package in the mail with attached exhibits and by registered mail, that's when its serious

WG

xsactly

FreakinWebmaster · 09-25-2003, 07:16 PM

Pretty stupid that he would email something like that...

You would think that he would know that if you were to be sued they would find your mailing address and mail a letter to you...

An attorney would never fucking send a final notice via email... dumbass!

Juicy D. Links · 09-25-2003, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Juicy is right, once you get a thick package in the mail with attached exhibits and by registered mail, that's when its serious

WG

More like they knock on your door at late night or early morning:

Process server: Knock Kncok

Juicy: WTF who is it

Process server: Process Server

Juicy:

Process server: Are you Juicy aka The Big Guido

Juicy: Damb right

Process server:: Youve been served

Juicy:

Stud Money · 09-25-2003, 07:29 PM

Didnt read through all of the post but, if he/she was pretending to be a lawyer that is err.... whats the legal term for it....

Illegal ;)

Turboface · 09-25-2003, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turboface
Please consider this a notification of our intent to sue all involved parties in a court of law for any or all three of the following:

Libel

Slander

Defamation Of Character

This is my favorite part. The only thing they would be able to get me for would maybe be deframation of a character.

integrated · 09-25-2003, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Turboface
Check this out.

There's a new traffic site out there called 'adult traffic monster' that has been spammed on every single board out there. It's run by a person that goes by 'atmdude' who has just come out of nowhere. Well, something didn't smell right so I did a little homework.

I'm sure you all remember GeoHuck. He was spamming all the boards recently, including this one. I remember quite a few people were having problems with him. Well, I clicked on one of the PayPal links on adult traffic monster and the payee was a Geoffrey A. Huckabee. Hmmm.

So, I followed up his spam posts, on most of the boards he hit, with a little warning about what I had discovered. All of a sudden, 'atmdude' changes the PayPal account payee info and starts saying that he meerly bought this site, and two other ones, off of GeoHuck.

I busted him good and he wasn't happy about it at all. Check out this email that just got sent to me and my host:

***************************************

Greetings.

This is to inform you that an individual who is associated with your Internet website, (www.adulttrafficgenerator.com), known only at this time as "Turboface", has made numerous false, slanderous, and libelous public statements directed toward Mr. Jonathan Smithermann of Santa Monica, California and his Internet websites:

www.adulttrafficmonster.com
www.cheap-website-traffic.com
www.cheap-adult-traffic.com

The aforementioned statements made by this individual are very numerous: they are now a matter of public record, and are very well-documented. Proof of said false, slanderous, and libelous public statements, including the recorded I.P. address of the author, which have been posted on numerous Internet forums, are now being gathered from the individual webmasters/owners of said forums for purposes of proof in the event that the associated individual immediately ceases and desists from further false, slanderous, and libelous statements directed against Mr. Smithermann and his aforementioned Internet websites. As well, a clear pattern of intent to defame Mr. Smithermann and his Internet websites for purposes of furthering sales for the Internet website: www.adulttrafficgenerator.com has already been well established. Further, the webhosting firm which stores the HTML, images, and other files of www.adulttraficgenerator.com will not be held blameless and shall also be brought into a court of law as a willing accomplice to the perpetrator of the false, slanderous, and libelous statements associated with the Internet website: www.adulttrafficgenerator.com.

Please consider this a notification of our intent to sue all involved parties in a court of law for any or all three of the following:

Libel

Slander

Defamation Of Character

Unless the associated individual immediately and unconditionally ceases and desists from posting false, slanderous, and/or libelous statements directed toward Mr. Smithermann or either of his three aforementioned Internet websites, legal action will be swiftly taken against all involved parties by filing a suit for monetary damages in a court of law. This is the first and final warning before this action is taken.

Libel and slander are not accepted conduct in any public forum, even an Internet forum. We hope that all involved parties will accept these terms and take any preventative measures necessary to avoid legal action. However, if the defamation of character, and/or false statements, slander, or libel directed at Mr. Smithermann persists, have no doubt that legal action against all involved parties is imminent.

***************************************

This email was sent from a spoofed email address.

The real funny thing is that there is no 'Jonathan Smithermann' in Santa Monica, California - or anywhere else in the United States.

GeoHuck, atmdude, or whoever you want to call yourself, you have been owned.

hello please dont our personal matters to a public board

regards

Turboface · 09-25-2003, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by integrated

hello please dont our personal matters to a public board

regards

So, integrated - are you also GeoHuck/atmdude?

gornyhuy · 09-25-2003, 08:39 PM

Weak....

they could have gone to any law website and cut and pasted a much more convincing letter... oh well.

Put it in the funny shit file and continue your slanderous OWNAGE.

MrMonkeyFingers · 09-25-2003, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks

More like they knock on your door at late night or early morning:

Process server: Knock Kncok

Juicy: WTF who is it

Process server: Process Server

Juicy:

Process server: Are you Juicy aka The Big Guido

Juicy: Damb right

Process server:: Youve been served

Juicy:

nice use of smilies!!!

Sexzity · 09-25-2003, 09:48 PM

Try this link:

www.adulttrafficmonster.com
www.cheap-website-traffic.com
www.cheap-adult-traffic.com

Seems like the Ebay Traffic Pimp did have some trouble with hes old host. (read: spam)

SleazyDream · 09-25-2003, 09:58 PM

juicy's right

grogan · 09-25-2003, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Turbo Jizzzzzz no worry till you get something like thisssss

cover-girl suing you for product defamation?

skrowyenom · 09-26-2003, 12:00 AM

Pay some one to track him down. When u do, beat the shit out of him... or

Anyway

J-Reel · 09-26-2003, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks

More like they knock on your door at late night or early morning:

Process server: Knock Kncok

Juicy: WTF who is it

Process server: Process Server

Juicy:

Process server: Are you Juicy aka The Big Guido

Juicy: Damb right

Process server:: Youve been served

Juicy:

Juicyyyyyy cracks me up

vicki · 09-26-2003, 05:30 AM

Quote:

The aforementioned statements made by this individual are very numerous:

very numerous?? roflmao

someone didn't pass grammar

*shaking head* nice try doood

vicki · 09-26-2003, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks

More like they knock on your door at late night or early morning:

Process server: Knock Kncok

Juicy: WTF who is it

Process server: Process Server

Juicy:

Process server: Are you Juicy aka The Big Guido

Juicy: Damb right

Process server:: Youve been served

Juicy:

hahahahaha oh that just made my whole day!
- sorry juicy that I got a grin at your expense - I know that was no fun - but that was just toooo cute
*hugs*

Nanda · 09-26-2003, 06:27 AM

TurboFace, I don't think u have much to worry about, make sure u have all prood on ur side. Good luck!

09-26-2003, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by juicylinks
Turbo Jizzzzzz no worry till you get something like thisssss

What did you do to receive such a nice package?

brand0n · 09-26-2003, 06:56 AM

write those fucks and tell em your filing a counter suit

OneHungLo · 09-26-2003, 07:31 AM

I wonder if steve goldman is involved in this.

slackologist · 09-26-2003, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jinx_Co
haha, I've gotten threats like that before just because someone was unhappy with a domain I registered and wanted it.

same here.. I ignored them and they went away.. that was 2 years ago.

That letter looks like it's come from a template of legal documents i think i have it here somewhere myself.

Dravyk · 09-26-2003, 10:13 AM

TurboFace, many congrats!!

You always know you're doing something right when it pisses someone off.

wargames · 09-26-2003, 10:44 AM

09-25-2003, 03:56 PM	#1
Turboface Back in Black Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 9,976	OMG - I am being sued!! Check this out. There's a new traffic site out there called 'adult traffic monster' that has been spammed on every single board out there. It's run by a person that goes by 'atmdude' who has just come out of nowhere. Well, something didn't smell right so I did a little homework. I'm sure you all remember GeoHuck. He was spamming all the boards recently, including this one. I remember quite a few people were having problems with him. Well, I clicked on one of the PayPal links on adult traffic monster and the payee was a Geoffrey A. Huckabee. Hmmm. So, I followed up his spam posts, on most of the boards he hit, with a little warning about what I had discovered. All of a sudden, 'atmdude' changes the PayPal account payee info and starts saying that he meerly bought this site, and two other ones, off of GeoHuck. I busted him good and he wasn't happy about it at all. Check out this email that just got sent to me and my host: ************************************* Greetings. This is to inform you that an individual who is associated with your Internet website, (www.adulttrafficgenerator.com), known only at this time as "Turboface", has made numerous false, slanderous, and libelous public statements directed toward Mr. Jonathan Smithermann of Santa Monica, California and his Internet websites: www.adulttrafficmonster.com www.cheap-website-traffic.com www.cheap-adult-traffic.com The aforementioned statements made by this individual are very numerous: they are now a matter of public record, and are very well-documented. Proof of said false, slanderous, and libelous public statements, including the recorded I.P. address of the author, which have been posted on numerous Internet forums, are now being gathered from the individual webmasters/owners of said forums for purposes of proof in the event that the associated individual immediately ceases and desists from further false, slanderous, and libelous statements directed against Mr. Smithermann and his aforementioned Internet websites. As well, a clear pattern of intent to defame Mr. Smithermann and his Internet websites for purposes of furthering sales for the Internet website: www.adulttrafficgenerator.com has already been well established. Further, the webhosting firm which stores the HTML, images, and other files of www.adulttraficgenerator.com will not be held blameless and shall also be brought into a court of law as a willing accomplice to the perpetrator of the false, slanderous, and libelous statements associated with the Internet website: www.adulttrafficgenerator.com. Please consider this a notification of our intent to sue all involved parties in a court of law for any or all three of the following: Libel Slander Defamation Of Character Unless the associated individual immediately and unconditionally ceases and desists from posting false, slanderous, and/or libelous statements directed toward Mr. Smithermann or either of his three aforementioned Internet websites, legal action will be swiftly taken against all involved parties by filing a suit for monetary damages in a court of law. This is the first and final warning before this action is taken. Libel and slander are not accepted conduct in any public forum, even an Internet forum. We hope that all involved parties will accept these terms and take any preventative measures necessary to avoid legal action. However, if the defamation of character, and/or false statements, slander, or libel directed at Mr. Smithermann persists, have no doubt that legal action against all involved parties is imminent. ************************************* This email was sent from a spoofed email address. The real funny thing is that there is no 'Jonathan Smithermann' in Santa Monica, California - or anywhere else in the United States. GeoHuck, atmdude, or whoever you want to call yourself, you have been owned. __________________ Search Engine Optimization Services for Adult Sites

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09-25-2003, 04:16 PM	#11
mikeeee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 481	Interesting, that is definetaly not written by an attorney.

09-25-2003, 04:18 PM	#13
ZakAttack Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 350	LOL get used to the internet. People send bullshit lawsuit threats all the time because lots of ISPs and Hosts are scared shitless of them and will pull the plug. I bet 99% of all lawsuit threats on the internet are bullshit. That one doesn't even look like it was written by a lawyer, more like some idiot that watched Judge Judy a few times...

09-25-2003, 04:29 PM	#14
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	Turbo Jizzzzzz no worry till you get something like thisssss

09-25-2003, 04:44 PM	#15
Greg B So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: EARTH (for the time being) Posts: 7,014	Dude, you're not being 'sued'. That's just a letter of 'intent' and not a good one at that. You don't send that stuff via email. If you feel you're in the right, get an attorney and have them give you professional advice. There may be something in it on another venue for you. Remember, in ALL legal matters get an attorney. Or just retain one just in case.

09-25-2003, 04:53 PM	#16
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09-25-2003, 05:04 PM	#18
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09-25-2003, 07:15 PM	#22
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09-25-2003, 07:16 PM	#24
FreakinWebmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mile High State Posts: 935	Pretty stupid that he would email something like that... You would think that he would know that if you were to be sued they would find your mailing address and mail a letter to you... An attorney would never fucking send a final notice via email... dumbass!

09-25-2003, 07:29 PM	#26
Stud Money So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Somewhere between my monitor and my chair Posts: 3,214	Didnt read through all of the post but, if he/she was pretending to be a lawyer that is err.... whats the legal term for it.... Illegal ;)

09-25-2003, 08:39 PM	#30
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	Weak.... they could have gone to any law website and cut and pasted a much more convincing letter... oh well. Put it in the funny shit file and continue your slanderous OWNAGE. __________________ icq:159548293

09-25-2003, 09:48 PM	#32
Sexzity Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Cyperspaces! Posts: 1,329	Try this link: www.adulttrafficmonster.com www.cheap-website-traffic.com www.cheap-adult-traffic.com Seems like the Ebay Traffic Pimp did have some trouble with hes old host. (read: spam)

09-25-2003, 09:58 PM	#33
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09-26-2003, 12:00 AM	#35
skrowyenom Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	Pay some one to track him down. When u do, beat the shit out of him... or Anyway

09-26-2003, 06:27 AM	#39
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09-26-2003, 06:56 AM	#41
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09-26-2003, 07:31 AM	#42
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,906	I wonder if steve goldman is involved in this.

09-26-2003, 10:13 AM	#44
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