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debbieN · 09-23-2003, 04:06 PM

what is the standard?

When someone says they are averaging 1:375 conversion ration does this mean the following:

RATIO between -

- main page hits and number of sign-ups
- preview page hits and number of sign-ups
- final join page hits and number of sign-ups

thanks

Sly_RJ · 09-23-2003, 04:08 PM

Ratios don't determine the best sponsors. Common misconception. The largest check with the smallest amount of traffic determines the best sponsor.

RRRED · 09-23-2003, 04:15 PM

That's a good question Debbie... There are some sponsors who show this in their stats. I believe Pornkings is one. It's really interesting to see what percentage of your surfers go from the first page of the tour, to the second, etc to the join.

Sly is right though. It really depends on how much money you make at the end of the week with the same traffic type.

You also need to consider the shave factor. Shaved hits will make the conversions look alot better than they really are. Track your own hits and compare them to the stats your sponsor provides.

debbieN · 09-23-2003, 04:23 PM

This months ratios for one of my sites:

TGP galleries posts to those that actually visit my first preview page - 1:28

Preview pages to final join page - 1:7.5

Join page hits to purchased membership - 1:34

So I could say the following:

TGP to member - 1:7,140
Prieview to member - 1:255

If I was now to quess on other sponsors it would be preview to member.

Are the above ratios crap??

First tier membership is $29.95 recurring.

debbieN · 09-23-2003, 05:52 PM

I hate to bump my own post.

I rarely post, and I do not post for fun anymore, I too busy.

I really do need to know if the above ratios are good or bad so that I can keep working on specific areas to increase the ratio.

If the ratios are good I would rather leave them alone. I have changed each area about twenty time over the last three years and this is the best I have come up with so far.

thanks.

doober · 09-23-2003, 06:06 PM

I would say you are doing better than the average.

Sly_RJ · 09-23-2003, 06:07 PM

Assuming the 7k you mentioned is gallery impressions, yes, I'd say you should be happy with your results.

slapass · 09-23-2003, 06:09 PM

Debbie those are great ratios. This is really large TGP'slike the hun and Worldsex? If that is true then it is not the straight TGP traffic that people talk about. Still awesome ratios and don't let anyone fool you otherwise.

H. Rap Brown · 09-23-2003, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by debbieN
what is the standard?

When someone says they are averaging 1:375 conversion ration does this mean the following:

more than likey they sent 375 hits and one of them hits happen to sign up and to feel like they're makin $$$$ they post something Like i'm doing 1:375 with that sponsor...when in fact they only sent 375 hits.....but i can be wrong

debbieN · 09-23-2003, 06:41 PM

I've only had one gallery on the hun posted and it was a long time ago.

Worldsex just happened last week.

I am now willing to pay for the spots but can not get an answer for either.

here is a sample gallery: http:www.jane-janebond.com/a1.htm

here is a sample preview: http://www.wristrope.com/preview.htm

here is a sample join: http://www.wristrope.com/join.com

if there is anything I can change to get better results let me know.

thank.

content payments are large though. 34 different providers for most of all the archives. Ouch. but worth it. over nine year to find some of them. some have no way to find.

slapass · 09-23-2003, 06:52 PM

debbieN - as a webmaster who pushes lots of different stuff my only concern would be CTR on a gallery. This is very niche stuff. So the overall $$ money made per 100k pageviews might be more in line with other programs. Do you get good clickthroughs?

integrated · 09-23-2003, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Ratios don't determine the best sponsors. Common misconception. The largest check with the smallest amount of traffic determines the best sponsor.

the largest check and the least amount of work does it for me

debbieN · 09-23-2003, 07:05 PM

slapass

in the above posts my CTR for my TGP post is 1:28

I have not included any large burst in activity. I only look and weekly vs past months.

One must remember that with a huge art and comic archive with over 400 to 700 new pics every two weeks I have a very loyal following.

Also, niche - hummmm

Anyone can find a multitude of Photo - Artwork concerns in the site.

anal
tits
hardcore
lesbians
bondage
bdsm
erotic art
fetish art of all kinds

by having a site like this draws the people that see that same "photo porn" for ever and everywhere. This site gives them every fantasy they could want.

There is just too much and too many way to travel the archive that is sometime is a puzzle. People email me to say, "wow, did you know if you clicked on the period at the end of this sentence will take you to another unknow archive?

I love that.

advertiser · 09-23-2003, 09:07 PM

the gallery
http:www.jane-janebond.com/a1.htm
Has so many traffic leaks unless those bottom sites are also yours.
I am amazed you get listed with so many outgoing links.
Only reason I can see for listing you is the unique content.
Anything under 10,000 views to a sign up is ELITE.

09-23-2003, 04:06 PM	#1
debbieN Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FL, NC(I burned this down), MI Posts: 1,193	understanding ratios - determining best sponsors what is the standard? When someone says they are averaging 1:375 conversion ration does this mean the following: RATIO between - - main page hits and number of sign-ups - preview page hits and number of sign-ups - final join page hits and number of sign-ups thanks __________________ don't rent the top room at the Luxor ______________________ Debbie Nomad's Evil Hobby

09-23-2003, 04:08 PM	#2
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Ratios don't determine the best sponsors. Common misconception. The largest check with the smallest amount of traffic determines the best sponsor. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

09-23-2003, 04:23 PM	#4
debbieN Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FL, NC(I burned this down), MI Posts: 1,193	This months ratios for one of my sites: TGP galleries posts to those that actually visit my first preview page - 1:28 Preview pages to final join page - 1:7.5 Join page hits to purchased membership - 1:34 So I could say the following: TGP to member - 1:7,140 Prieview to member - 1:255 If I was now to quess on other sponsors it would be preview to member. Are the above ratios crap?? First tier membership is $29.95 recurring. __________________ don't rent the top room at the Luxor ______________________ Debbie Nomad's Evil Hobby

09-23-2003, 05:52 PM	#5
debbieN Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FL, NC(I burned this down), MI Posts: 1,193	I hate to bump my own post. I rarely post, and I do not post for fun anymore, I too busy. I really do need to know if the above ratios are good or bad so that I can keep working on specific areas to increase the ratio. If the ratios are good I would rather leave them alone. I have changed each area about twenty time over the last three years and this is the best I have come up with so far. thanks. __________________ don't rent the top room at the Luxor ______________________ Debbie Nomad's Evil Hobby

09-23-2003, 06:07 PM	#7
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Assuming the 7k you mentioned is gallery impressions, yes, I'd say you should be happy with your results. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

09-23-2003, 04:15 PM	#3
RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	That's a good question Debbie... There are some sponsors who show this in their stats. I believe Pornkings is one. It's really interesting to see what percentage of your surfers go from the first page of the tour, to the second, etc to the join. Sly is right though. It really depends on how much money you make at the end of the week with the same traffic type. You also need to consider the shave factor. Shaved hits will make the conversions look alot better than they really are. Track your own hits and compare them to the stats your sponsor provides.

09-23-2003, 06:06 PM	#6
doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	I would say you are doing better than the average.

09-23-2003, 06:09 PM	#8
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Debbie those are great ratios. This is really large TGP'slike the hun and Worldsex? If that is true then it is not the straight TGP traffic that people talk about. Still awesome ratios and don't let anyone fool you otherwise.

09-23-2003, 06:41 PM	#10
debbieN Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FL, NC(I burned this down), MI Posts: 1,193	I've only had one gallery on the hun posted and it was a long time ago. Worldsex just happened last week. I am now willing to pay for the spots but can not get an answer for either. here is a sample gallery: http:www.jane-janebond.com/a1.htm here is a sample preview: http://www.wristrope.com/preview.htm here is a sample join: http://www.wristrope.com/join.com if there is anything I can change to get better results let me know. thank. content payments are large though. 34 different providers for most of all the archives. Ouch. but worth it. over nine year to find some of them. some have no way to find. __________________ don't rent the top room at the Luxor ______________________ Debbie Nomad's Evil Hobby

09-23-2003, 06:52 PM	#11
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	debbieN - as a webmaster who pushes lots of different stuff my only concern would be CTR on a gallery. This is very niche stuff. So the overall $$ money made per 100k pageviews might be more in line with other programs. Do you get good clickthroughs?

09-23-2003, 07:05 PM	#13
debbieN Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: FL, NC(I burned this down), MI Posts: 1,193	slapass in the above posts my CTR for my TGP post is 1:28 I have not included any large burst in activity. I only look and weekly vs past months. One must remember that with a huge art and comic archive with over 400 to 700 new pics every two weeks I have a very loyal following. Also, niche - hummmm Anyone can find a multitude of Photo - Artwork concerns in the site. anal tits hardcore lesbians bondage bdsm erotic art fetish art of all kinds by having a site like this draws the people that see that same "photo porn" for ever and everywhere. This site gives them every fantasy they could want. There is just too much and too many way to travel the archive that is sometime is a puzzle. People email me to say, "wow, did you know if you clicked on the period at the end of this sentence will take you to another unknow archive? I love that. __________________ don't rent the top room at the Luxor ______________________ Debbie Nomad's Evil Hobby

09-23-2003, 09:07 PM	#14
advertiser Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mensa Posts: 457	the gallery http:www.jane-janebond.com/a1.htm Has so many traffic leaks unless those bottom sites are also yours. I am amazed you get listed with so many outgoing links. Only reason I can see for listing you is the unique content. Anything under 10,000 views to a sign up is ELITE.