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Marcus · 09-21-2003, 09:29 PM

Whats the best kind of text to use on the site to describe the girls ? I mean are you better off talking about the girls in a positive way like they're large, sweet and beautiful ladies, or in a trashy way like they're fat bitches who can't stop eating and they want your cock next?

whats a good background color for a bbw site? Does it matter?
I usually use red for hardcore, purple for ebony and gold for indian.

Do the customers like seeing the bbw girls eat or smoke cigarettes, or is that a turn off?

GrimShawn · 09-21-2003, 09:30 PM

smoking works for anything, I guess what you do with the site is really going to be based on the theme of it, and of course the content

BV · 09-21-2003, 09:32 PM

Flour needed

4Pics · 09-21-2003, 09:51 PM

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tony286 · 09-21-2003, 10:22 PM

eating is a small strong niche within bbw, 80% of the guys who like bbw find it a turn off. The positive is always a better way to go for two reasons its a nicer vibe and if the law comes knocking on your door. You are serving a need in the community showing bbws can be beautiful, sexy and sensual.

Marcus · 09-21-2003, 10:31 PM

great advice, thanks guys

StacyCat · 09-21-2003, 10:40 PM

Well, as a BBW, I think that positive messages would be the best. After all, a lot of these guys are very insecure about the fact that they like big girls that they are ashamed to be seen of them in public. So, they like worshiping the girls online. They dont like to be told that the objects of their desire are "fat ugly sluts"

Eating, as tony said, is a controversial topic, but its a niche (in fact, they just released an eating video) I wouldnt do it unless you really know what you are doing.

smoking is an underserved niche in the BBW community. I dont smoke so its a niche thta I dont do.

Let me see what you got, Marcus, I look forward to seeing it :-)

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Sarah_Jayne · 09-22-2003, 01:49 PM

Marcus feel free to contact me if you want any help with BBW stuff.

If you want to start by reading an old article I wrote take a look at

BBW Article

basschick · 09-22-2003, 02:18 PM

sarah_webinc, read your entire article but didn't see the term "chubby chaser" ;-)

Marcus, there's probably a way to make money off the ruder text, but most sites know so little about bbw fans that they can't even do that in a relevant way. in fact, i find bbw to be the least understood niche even in porn movies.

most guys who like bbw's couldn't care less about seeing them eat - although that IS a niche. most guys are just turned on by extra curves and a fuller shape. they find it sexy just like any guy finds things sexy. most think of them as attractive wonen, so insulting them won't make the best sales.

it's sort of like mature - a lot of sites call the older ladies "wrinkly" and "hags" but the guys who like mature don't think of them that way.

why not find some print magazines or egroups and see what is said there.

StacyCat · 09-22-2003, 03:24 PM

Chubby chaser! I havent heard that in a while :-)

The site ideas I get from GFY :-)

tony286 · 09-22-2003, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StacyCat
Chubby chaser! I havent heard that in a while :-)

The site ideas I get from GFY :-)

Chubby chaser is much more of a gay term than str8.

basschick · 09-22-2003, 03:49 PM

actually i used to hear chubby chaser all over straight mainstream magazines about bbw's. it isn't used much now, but i'm wondering how many guys who read those mags in the late 80s and early 90s still respond to the term...

berg.the.red · 09-22-2003, 08:40 PM

from what i've heard from some of the folks who promote BBW - don't go with the negative remarks: fatty, lard, etc. BBW surfers are guys who find big, full figured woman attractive. go with maybe "voluptuous" and that kind of phrase ...

Sarah_Jayne · 09-23-2003, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by basschick
sarah_webinc, read your entire article but didn't see the term "chubby chaser" ;-)

hmmm, there is a version of that article somwehere where I do talk about the term chubby chaser and point out, like Tony said, that Chubby Chaser is almost exclusivley a gay term.

Don't go near the eating issue unless you understand feederism. Due to the nature of feederism it does sometimes overlap with the BBW community but make no mistake they are two entirely different things and many people in the BBW community have real issues with feeding and it could work against you. There is an active 'no feeders' policy in many chat rooms and on non-porn websites.

Johny Traffic · 09-23-2003, 04:21 AM

Quote:

Flour needed

lock · 09-23-2003, 04:31 AM

Build a site you have a passion about if you think BBW women are sexy then you will focus on it if not you will soon lose interest.

babyhuey · 09-23-2003, 05:35 AM

Hey man drop me and emaill and I would be glad to help, you can go to my site http://chubbyland.com/main.html and contact me through there.

Sarah_Jayne · 09-23-2003, 12:09 PM

babyheuy knows his stuff

candyflip · 09-23-2003, 12:14 PM

Voluptuous, thick and plump are words that I gravitate towards.

Surfer POV.

strobi · 09-23-2003, 01:04 PM

never degrade them to sluts... and most BBW lovers don't like them doing hardcore.

Sarah_Jayne · 09-23-2003, 01:31 PM

insulting terms are going for the surfers looking for a freak show..they aren't going to be your rebillers. That will be the real FA's (fat admirers).

Don't be afraid to use the word fat...it isn't a bad word to us..it is just in how you use it.

Tuzz · 09-23-2003, 01:38 PM

I would also recommend NOT using degrading text.
The overall percentage of surfers who actively target
degrading material is relatively small. The sliver of those
whom are into BBW are not worth targeting IMHO.

As a BBW lover, I can say that I see larger women as soft
and cuddly, round and sensual. Use terms like

sweet plumper
round and soft
cute fatty
chubby doll

I personally don't care for the term "thick", but never
having used it I can't say how it will work.

As for softcore versus hardcore, both markets are large
enough to target.

Sarah_Jayne · 09-23-2003, 01:44 PM

especially as in the UK 'thick' means someone who is stupid

StacyCat · 09-24-2003, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi
never degrade them to sluts... and most BBW lovers don't like them doing hardcore.

Im going to disagree.

Most SSBBW lovers dont like hardcore. My best friend is an SSBBW, and has never been asked for hardcore stuff.

However, girls my size, slightly bigger and the smaller girls get asked for hardcore all the time.

The niche is there, however, outside of amateur, you dont see that much good hardcore stuff.

Marcus · 09-24-2003, 11:05 PM

Thanks all, I've used a lot of text and ideas from this thread. I really appreciate it.
I'll have the first draft done tomorrow-ish and email it out to see what you all think.

Making tours is hard, this does not come natural for me. I dont know how designers can just whip out good looking tours like they do. I have an even bigger respect for designers lol.

Thanks very much

Honeyslut · 09-24-2003, 11:14 PM

busty is another term that you can use for bbw

Tofu · 09-25-2003, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by StacyCat

Im going to disagree.

Most SSBBW lovers dont like hardcore. My best friend is an SSBBW, and has never been asked for hardcore stuff.

i would LoVe to see MORE SSBBW hardcore. Aside from those old ROn Jeremy vids with the 550lb woman. Chicklets in a hardcore set would be awsome.

4Pics · 09-25-2003, 02:43 AM

I thought some of the idea behind BBW was that these are girls who are really pretty but just happen to be Large also?

The ones who aren't attractive fit more into the Fatties, Plumpers etc?

Maybe i'm wrong but what do you call a big girl who isn't beautiful?

Or does BBW not stand for Big Beautiful Women?

Sarah_Jayne · 09-25-2003, 05:24 AM

BBW is NOT a porn term. It is a term for a community that the porn world caught on to and is exploiting (as we do with everything). It covers all big women and is an attitude more than a visual thing.

Also, you know one person's idea of beauty is different from anothers.

Tofu : I'd love to see it too..

babyhuey · 09-25-2003, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
babyheuy knows his stuff

Hey Sarah thanks for the compliment you rock!!

StacyCat · 09-25-2003, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics
Maybe i'm wrong but what do you call a big girl who isn't beautiful?

Thank you thank you thank you!

Just because you are fat does not make you a BBW. In my opinion. Thats something that a lot of content providers need to get through their thick little heads :-) BBW does have beautiful in the name, and beautiful means pretty, and confident. The bigger girls with bored looks in their eyes dont do BBW justice. But, I still wouldnt call them fatties. Plumpers are just smaller BBW's (actually, i toe the line between plumper and BBW (at least in the online arena) ) If you dont like the girl,if the girl looks like shes bored, dont use that content set.

And, ive seen chicklets do hardcore, but not on camera

jovigirl · 09-25-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by babyhuey1
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beemk · 09-25-2003, 10:15 AM

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jenmarie · 09-25-2003, 02:38 PM

Way for me to totally miss this thread when it started... heheh

Quote:

Originally posted by Marcus
Whats the best kind of text to use on the site to describe the girls ? I mean are you better off talking about the girls in a positive way like they're large, sweet and beautiful ladies, or in a trashy way like they're fat bitches who can't stop eating and they want your cock next?

Although many fans of bigger women are closet fans, they really don't like being made to feel that their preference is something freaky or grotesque. A good approach is the same as with any "hot babe" site ... your babes are just BIG babes is all...
Make the BBW fan feel like his preference is hot and sexy and wild!

Quote:

Originally posted by Marcus
Do the customers like seeing the bbw girls eat or smoke cigarettes, or is that a turn off?

The feederism topic was well covered by sarah and StacyCat (hi gals!) so I won't go over that one again...

Smoking is one I've found that a lot of the guys like... especially in video or live cams

There are a few different types of big women fans. Those who just love a soft curvy body, and those for whom fat is a fetish.
The fat fetish thing is sort of a subset of the overall expansion fetish. (which includes everything from huge inflated body parts to balloons to morphs, etc)

So for the fat fetishists, anything that emphasizes what makes a fat woman fat is a good thing! Tight clothing that clings, wet t-shirts, oil, body stockings, hose, constrictive lingerie, etc are all great!

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404

Chubby chaser is much more of a gay term than str8.

Yep... though I guess it could go either way, I'd always heard it in gay circles (outside of the adult webmaster world)

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi
never degrade them to sluts... and most BBW lovers don't like them doing hardcore.

Well, that depends on the approach you want to take with the site, actually! Something I've found is that just about anything you can do with a "skinny chick" site, you can do with a fat/BBW site.

Some guys LOVE the hardcore stuff, especially the swinger/slutwife kind of thing. That's easier to do with an amateur angle than a megasite angle though. But for many fans of big women, the idea of the wife, PTA mom, etc going out and getting some is very sexy!

Other BBW fans prefer the softer slice of life. Like StacyCat said, the SSBBW (supersized or extremely big women) don't have to do hardcore -- and often they don't even have to do nudity! That's because they appeal to the fat fetish folks more than the general BBW fans. Same goes for any big girl with a "hook" , like a girl with hugely disproportionate butt, breasts, thighs, or belly, or a girl whose face is either model perfect (like Mandy) or resembles a celebrity... No HC needed! hehehe

Just some of my thoughts on the whole thing.... but then again, I've likely spent WAY too much time analyzing the niche over the years...

One overlap I wish there was more demand for in the BBW niche is the pregnant and plump one.... I've had several pregnant-plus models over time, and their stuff just doesn't seem to convert particularly well in either niche... oh well. hehe

Jenmarie

Sarah_Jayne · 09-25-2003, 03:02 PM

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09-21-2003, 09:29 PM	#1
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	who knows BBW? mind giving me some tips? Whats the best kind of text to use on the site to describe the girls ? I mean are you better off talking about the girls in a positive way like they're large, sweet and beautiful ladies, or in a trashy way like they're fat bitches who can't stop eating and they want your cock next? whats a good background color for a bbw site? Does it matter? I usually use red for hardcore, purple for ebony and gold for indian. Do the customers like seeing the bbw girls eat or smoke cigarettes, or is that a turn off?

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basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	sarah_webinc, read your entire article but didn't see the term "chubby chaser" ;-) Marcus, there's probably a way to make money off the ruder text, but most sites know so little about bbw fans that they can't even do that in a relevant way. in fact, i find bbw to be the least understood niche even in porn movies. most guys who like bbw's couldn't care less about seeing them eat - although that IS a niche. most guys are just turned on by extra curves and a fuller shape. they find it sexy just like any guy finds things sexy. most think of them as attractive wonen, so insulting them won't make the best sales. it's sort of like mature - a lot of sites call the older ladies "wrinkly" and "hags" but the guys who like mature don't think of them that way. why not find some print magazines or egroups and see what is said there. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

09-22-2003, 03:49 PM	#14
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	actually i used to hear chubby chaser all over straight mainstream magazines about bbw's. it isn't used much now, but i'm wondering how many guys who read those mags in the late 80s and early 90s still respond to the term... __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

09-21-2003, 09:30 PM	#2
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09-21-2003, 09:32 PM	#3
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09-21-2003, 09:51 PM	#4
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09-21-2003, 10:22 PM	#5
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	eating is a small strong niche within bbw, 80% of the guys who like bbw find it a turn off. The positive is always a better way to go for two reasons its a nicer vibe and if the law comes knocking on your door. You are serving a need in the community showing bbws can be beautiful, sexy and sensual.

09-21-2003, 10:31 PM	#6
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	great advice, thanks guys

09-21-2003, 10:40 PM	#7
StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	Well, as a BBW, I think that positive messages would be the best. After all, a lot of these guys are very insecure about the fact that they like big girls that they are ashamed to be seen of them in public. So, they like worshiping the girls online. They dont like to be told that the objects of their desire are "fat ugly sluts" Eating, as tony said, is a controversial topic, but its a niche (in fact, they just released an eating video) I wouldnt do it unless you really know what you are doing. smoking is an underserved niche in the BBW community. I dont smoke so its a niche thta I dont do. Let me see what you got, Marcus, I look forward to seeing it :-)

09-22-2003, 01:49 PM	#10
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	Marcus feel free to contact me if you want any help with BBW stuff. If you want to start by reading an old article I wrote take a look at BBW Article

09-22-2003, 03:24 PM	#12
StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	Chubby chaser! I havent heard that in a while :-) The site ideas I get from GFY :-)

09-22-2003, 08:40 PM	#15
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09-23-2003, 12:14 PM	#21
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strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	never degrade them to sluts... and most BBW lovers don't like them doing hardcore.

09-23-2003, 01:31 PM	#23
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	insulting terms are going for the surfers looking for a freak show..they aren't going to be your rebillers. That will be the real FA's (fat admirers). Don't be afraid to use the word fat...it isn't a bad word to us..it is just in how you use it.

09-23-2003, 01:38 PM	#24
Tuzz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 171	I would also recommend NOT using degrading text. The overall percentage of surfers who actively target degrading material is relatively small. The sliver of those whom are into BBW are not worth targeting IMHO. As a BBW lover, I can say that I see larger women as soft and cuddly, round and sensual. Use terms like sweet plumper round and soft cute fatty chubby doll I personally don't care for the term "thick", but never having used it I can't say how it will work. As for softcore versus hardcore, both markets are large enough to target.

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Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	especially as in the UK 'thick' means someone who is stupid

09-24-2003, 11:05 PM	#27
Marcus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,472	Thanks all, I've used a lot of text and ideas from this thread. I really appreciate it. I'll have the first draft done tomorrow-ish and email it out to see what you all think. Making tours is hard, this does not come natural for me. I dont know how designers can just whip out good looking tours like they do. I have an even bigger respect for designers lol. Thanks very much

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09-25-2003, 02:43 AM	#30
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	I thought some of the idea behind BBW was that these are girls who are really pretty but just happen to be Large also? The ones who aren't attractive fit more into the Fatties, Plumpers etc? Maybe i'm wrong but what do you call a big girl who isn't beautiful? Or does BBW not stand for Big Beautiful Women?

09-25-2003, 05:24 AM	#31
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	BBW is NOT a porn term. It is a term for a community that the porn world caught on to and is exploiting (as we do with everything). It covers all big women and is an attitude more than a visual thing. Also, you know one person's idea of beauty is different from anothers. Tofu : I'd love to see it too..

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