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woodsix · 09-20-2003, 10:55 AM

Someone, posted an article not too long ago saying that websites that offer porn really are not that profitable. Sure, you may be fortunate enough to make a living at it, but the odds of actually improving your lifestyle in any meaningful way are pretty remote (think hitting the lottery, remote).

Think about it.

Even moderately successful software businesses have their own offices, employees, a reputation in the community, industry contacts, and usually a nice sized payroll. They can find new employees, partners, and customers without too much inconvenience. Plus, they can advertise their services anywhere and be mentioned in the media and press without worry.

They can sell their services to governments, businesses, and public institutions (schools, hospitals, foundations, etc.). Basically, there are no limits to commerce.

As a software programmer, with a couple years experience, you can easily make $50-60K a year. If it is internet experience and you add a couple more years, that can jump to $100K+. If you create software, and get options, the sky is the limit.

Does anyone think there is that kind of money in porn websites? Everyone can name one of the top ten websites, but no one knows the top ten porn websites. Why? No barriers to entry and easy to duplicate content, and relatively little programming skill required.

Given the intense competition, the hassle with legal issues, dealing with the credit card companies, extremely perishable content, and the threat of legislation, it is not suprising to see why there is so much turnover in this part of the web.

quiet · 09-20-2003, 10:56 AM

you're an idiot.

MattO · 09-20-2003, 10:56 AM

There's no money in porn. Stop now before it's too late.

smack · 09-20-2003, 10:57 AM

shut up no0b, go home.

Za Ha · 09-20-2003, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
you're an idiot.

I agree.

sweetcuties · 09-20-2003, 11:11 AM

That's it... based on your analysis, I'm selling ALL my sites. Everything's for sale $100... paypal only

Jimbo · 09-20-2003, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
That's it... based on your analysis, I'm selling ALL my sites. Everything's for sale $100... paypal only

sold!

now whats your paypal e-mail?

FuqALot · 09-20-2003, 11:13 AM

true, true, i get paid 100gz just for some scripts.

polish_aristocrat · 09-20-2003, 11:16 AM

He's right.
Not everyone is succesfull in the online porn biz.
Some ppl are f.e. good programmers, but with very poor business sense.
Others are good in marketing, but not in computer stuff.

They could be making more in a "normal" job in the offline world.

polish_aristocrat · 09-20-2003, 11:20 AM

Also there are some ppl that got in porn when it was so easy...
They finished college and got into porn.
They were making big cash just with submitting galleries, they are still making it ( although less ), but some day it;s over.
And if they didn't make any business contacts they are fucked when it happens.
They have no CV

TheEbonyFelony · 09-20-2003, 11:21 AM

my momma said i was bright..momma was right

quiet · 09-20-2003, 11:22 AM

there is so much fucking money to be made in online porn it's crazy. millions and millions. someone's failure is another's success...

Jimbo · 09-20-2003, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Also there are some ppl that got in porn when it was so easy...
They finished college and got into porn.
They were making big cash just with submitting galleries, they are still making it ( although less ), but some day it;s over.
And if they didn't make any business contacts they are fucked when it happens.
They have no CV

stop making me freak out. theres always new ways to make money.

nap · 09-20-2003, 11:24 AM

to answer your question i have a REAL future and the adult industry plays a very small part of it

nosey · 09-20-2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jimbo

stop making me freak out. theres always new ways to make money.

polish_aristocrat · 09-20-2003, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jimbo

stop making me freak out. theres always new ways to make money.

I also believe in that.
But some ppl are stupid.
Online porn was easy and everyone could make money in it - even those who would definitely fail in any other business.
If their way of making money is no longer possible, they are fucked.

Furious_Female · 09-20-2003, 11:58 AM

There are people that make a fortune with porn and others that make nothing. Sex and booze will always sell and like any type of job, the wise thing to do is invest or save your current money for the future. But people that believe there is no money in porn online, is a great thing. Makes others all the richer

69pornlinks · 09-20-2003, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
you're an idiot.

lol

sumphatpimp · 09-20-2003, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodsix
[B]Someone, posted an article not too long ago saying that websites that offer porn really are not that profitable. Sure, you may be fortunate enough to make a living at it, but the odds of actually improving your lifestyle in any meaningful way are pretty remote (think hitting the lottery, remote).

Think about it.

Even moderately successful software businesses have their own offices, employees, a reputation in the community, industry contacts, and usually a nice sized payroll. They can find new employees, partners, and customers without too much inconvenience. Plus, they can advertise their services anywhere and be mentioned in the media and press without worry.

They can sell their services to governments, businesses, and public institutions (schools, hospitals, foundations, etc.). Basically, there are no limits to commerce.

knock it off with the SPAM !

you are right though.

you have no future, you are stupid to a fault and can't sell for shit.

that is why YOU have no future.

What the salesman sells comes second, first and most important is the salesman himself.

Just another failure trying to blame it on others.

LOL

Phoenix · 09-20-2003, 12:45 PM

oh damn..no one told me this...i guess i'll give up

BlackCrayon · 09-20-2003, 12:46 PM

haha, if woodsix had a future he wouldn't need to spam GFY trying to convince us that his software is the only way of the future. makes me laugh every time. the ppl who think creativly and never give up will always have a future in this business i believe.

webair · 09-20-2003, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
you're an idiot.

well said

Plan9 · 09-20-2003, 12:53 PM

Know what this guy reminds me on?

The movie clerks...and at the beginning, the customer comes in and tells everyone to quit smoking, and everyone starts boycotting the stores cigarettes - then it turns out the guy is just a gum salesman trying to peddle his wares.

Same with this guy. Trying to sell his god-awful software idea by spamming his shit on the board. Go do a search - I've seen at least two other posts by him on the EXACT same topic. Enough already.

Plan9 · 09-20-2003, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by woodsix
Someone, posted an article not too long ago saying that websites that offer porn really are not that profitable. Sure, you may be fortunate enough to make a living at it, but the odds of actually improving your lifestyle in any meaningful way are pretty remote (think hitting the lottery, remote).

Think about it.

Even moderately successful software businesses have their own offices, employees, a reputation in the community, industry contacts, and usually a nice sized payroll. They can find new employees, partners, and customers without too much inconvenience. Plus, they can advertise their services anywhere and be mentioned in the media and press without worry.

They can sell their services to governments, businesses, and public institutions (schools, hospitals, foundations, etc.). Basically, there are no limits to commerce.

As a software programmer, with a couple years experience, you can easily make $50-60K a year. If it is internet experience and you add a couple more years, that can jump to $100K+. If you create software, and get options, the sky is the limit.

Does anyone think there is that kind of money in porn websites? Everyone can name one of the top ten websites, but no one knows the top ten porn websites. Why? No barriers to entry and easy to duplicate content, and relatively little programming skill required.

Given the intense competition, the hassle with legal issues, dealing with the credit card companies, extremely perishable content, and the threat of legislation, it is not suprising to see why there is so much turnover in this part of the web.

By the way, you are a fucking idiot. 50-60k a year? 100k with internet experience? Just wait until they start outsourcing more and more jobs to India and China to people that will work for less than a TENTH of that, then see if you're still getting that salary.

reynold · 09-20-2003, 01:14 PM

I'll be a doctor in a few years. But I'm quite sure I'd be making some good cash in here at that time, if I wanted to.

Freestyleman · 09-20-2003, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Za Ha

I agree.

exactly what i thought

hehe

ZakAttack · 09-20-2003, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plan9

By the way, you are a fucking idiot. 50-60k a year? 100k with internet experience? Just wait until they start outsourcing more and more jobs to India and China to people that will work for less than a TENTH of that, then see if you're still getting that salary.

EXACTLY!!!

Thats pretty much what I would have said if you didn't get to it first. Those CCNA, CCNB, etc... network engineers used to make bank now its hard to even find a job for most of them. High tech jobs are extremely easy to send overseas. If the guy would have posted this stuff in maybe 99 or 2000, we'd be alot less skeptical, but even then I didn't think that bullshit could last.

woodsix · 09-20-2003, 01:26 PM

While it may be true that many jobs are being outsourced to other countries, you have to look at the types of jobs these are. Things such as tech support, application maintenance, testing and debugging, customer service, and the like. These are not what you call high-growth, high-paying jobs.

If you have experience in the field and develop new products, then there isn't as much concern. You want to develop products where the customers are, and most are not in these outsourcing countries.

One thing I have learned over the past 2 decades is that there is a neverending demand for software. It is almost unquenchable. The only problem is that creating good software is such an outrageously time-consuming ordeal. Even the best programmers do not necessarily have the desire nor the commitment to create software correctly.

However, this is not true for providing porn over the web. Anybody can do it. Everybody can do it. In fact, you have all kinds of assistance to help you do it with free hosting, messageboards like this, free scripts, support groups, free webservers, and more.

How could anyone make money for long in an industry that supports so many people entering it? If you look at any successful software company, they try to make it as hard as possible to get in the field, not easier.

eroswebmaster · 09-20-2003, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
my momma said i was bright..momma was right

My mother used to actually say...

"He's so bright that's why we call him Sun."

KRL · 09-20-2003, 01:33 PM

There is always going to be more money in mainstream because you have a much wider audience and more places available to advertise.

Porn is still a great business though and you can easily make 6 to 7 figs and beyond if you're clever. Its not easy, but it is still possible to do.

09-20-2003, 10:55 AM	#1
woodsix So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA Posts: 134	Do you have a REAL future? Someone, posted an article not too long ago saying that websites that offer porn really are not that profitable. Sure, you may be fortunate enough to make a living at it, but the odds of actually improving your lifestyle in any meaningful way are pretty remote (think hitting the lottery, remote). Think about it. Even moderately successful software businesses have their own offices, employees, a reputation in the community, industry contacts, and usually a nice sized payroll. They can find new employees, partners, and customers without too much inconvenience. Plus, they can advertise their services anywhere and be mentioned in the media and press without worry. They can sell their services to governments, businesses, and public institutions (schools, hospitals, foundations, etc.). Basically, there are no limits to commerce. As a software programmer, with a couple years experience, you can easily make $50-60K a year. If it is internet experience and you add a couple more years, that can jump to $100K+. If you create software, and get options, the sky is the limit. Does anyone think there is that kind of money in porn websites? Everyone can name one of the top ten websites, but no one knows the top ten porn websites. Why? No barriers to entry and easy to duplicate content, and relatively little programming skill required. Given the intense competition, the hassle with legal issues, dealing with the credit card companies, extremely perishable content, and the threat of legislation, it is not suprising to see why there is so much turnover in this part of the web.

09-20-2003, 10:56 AM	#2
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sweetcuties Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Posts: 5,859	That's it... based on your analysis, I'm selling ALL my sites. Everything's for sale $100... paypal only __________________

09-20-2003, 11:16 AM	#9
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	He's right. Not everyone is succesfull in the online porn biz. Some ppl are f.e. good programmers, but with very poor business sense. Others are good in marketing, but not in computer stuff. They could be making more in a "normal" job in the offline world. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

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MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	There's no money in porn. Stop now before it's too late.

09-20-2003, 11:13 AM	#8
FuqALot Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Malibu Posts: 3,817	true, true, i get paid 100gz just for some scripts.

09-20-2003, 11:20 AM	#10
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Also there are some ppl that got in porn when it was so easy... They finished college and got into porn. They were making big cash just with submitting galleries, they are still making it ( although less ), but some day it;s over. And if they didn't make any business contacts they are fucked when it happens. They have no CV __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-20-2003, 11:21 AM	#11
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09-20-2003, 11:22 AM	#12
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	there is so much fucking money to be made in online porn it's crazy. millions and millions. someone's failure is another's success... __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP

09-20-2003, 11:24 AM	#14
nap Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: midwest Posts: 2,765	to answer your question i have a REAL future and the adult industry plays a very small part of it

09-20-2003, 11:58 AM	#17
Furious_Female Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Upstate, New York Posts: 8,187	There are people that make a fortune with porn and others that make nothing. Sex and booze will always sell and like any type of job, the wise thing to do is invest or save your current money for the future. But people that believe there is no money in porn online, is a great thing. Makes others all the richer __________________ Skype: j3nn.com ICQ 160370494 My current favorite high-converting sponsor: CrakRevenue

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	haha, if woodsix had a future he wouldn't need to spam GFY trying to convince us that his software is the only way of the future. makes me laugh every time. the ppl who think creativly and never give up will always have a future in this business i believe. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

09-20-2003, 12:53 PM	#23
Plan9 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,801	Know what this guy reminds me on? The movie clerks...and at the beginning, the customer comes in and tells everyone to quit smoking, and everyone starts boycotting the stores cigarettes - then it turns out the guy is just a gum salesman trying to peddle his wares. Same with this guy. Trying to sell his god-awful software idea by spamming his shit on the board. Go do a search - I've seen at least two other posts by him on the EXACT same topic. Enough already.

09-20-2003, 01:14 PM	#25
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	I'll be a doctor in a few years. But I'm quite sure I'd be making some good cash in here at that time, if I wanted to.

09-20-2003, 01:26 PM	#28
woodsix So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA Posts: 134	While it may be true that many jobs are being outsourced to other countries, you have to look at the types of jobs these are. Things such as tech support, application maintenance, testing and debugging, customer service, and the like. These are not what you call high-growth, high-paying jobs. If you have experience in the field and develop new products, then there isn't as much concern. You want to develop products where the customers are, and most are not in these outsourcing countries. One thing I have learned over the past 2 decades is that there is a neverending demand for software. It is almost unquenchable. The only problem is that creating good software is such an outrageously time-consuming ordeal. Even the best programmers do not necessarily have the desire nor the commitment to create software correctly. However, this is not true for providing porn over the web. Anybody can do it. Everybody can do it. In fact, you have all kinds of assistance to help you do it with free hosting, messageboards like this, free scripts, support groups, free webservers, and more. How could anyone make money for long in an industry that supports so many people entering it? If you look at any successful software company, they try to make it as hard as possible to get in the field, not easier.

09-20-2003, 01:33 PM	#30
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