I agree with LadyM 100% :thumbsup

I believe it's all a matter of special situations. Abortion should be an option for rape and incest victims, pregnancies that could result in death, when detected early on etc.

LadyM is right. In this day in age, its sheer laziness and stupidity to not prevent an unwanted pregnancy. I don't think abortion should be a casual substitute to "making a mistake". It's true, some people should not have children and raise them, when they are mentally, emotionally and financially unready. They should do the right thing, face the consequences of their careless actions, bring the pregnancy to full term and give that child up for adoption. So many infertile couples out there, that would do just about anything to adopt. People say "I could never give my baby away after seeing it" ...Yeah so killing it will weigh much less on your conscience. That makes a lot of sense!

There are countless birth control methods out there now, including abstinence. I'm not saying, consenting adults should not have sex... but come on. If you don't know sex could result in pregnancy, then you shouldn't do it. That's why there's laws in place for the age of consent, to make sure people fully understand the consequences. If you can make the decision to have sex, then you must be accountable for your actions. Not all children given up for adoption, are put into the system and passed around from foster home to another. You hear more about cases like this, because it's not as common for it to happen. You rarely hear about all the good adoption stories.

If you aren't ready for a child, never want them or simply don't plan on being with the person you are having sex with, long term... then simply prevent it. You wouldn't want to contract a long term STD, why would you want to contract a long term responsibility of another life? Sure accidents do happen, but it's both man and woman's job to take responsibility as far as birth control.

And for all you people that don't believe there's a God or a soul... don't celebrate Christmas or Easter :1orglaugh

Shit chick, do you realize hell just froze over!?? Hot damn good one! lol

and for the ignorants... the RU-486 pill is given in early pregnancy (within 49 days of a woman's last menstrual period) to destroy the embryo!


Is the embryo (not even a foetus yet) a human being? Is a fertilized egg all of sudden a human being? Nope!

lol

Hahaha... actually I think you are very intelligent and have a lot of common sense :thumbsup

Just not when it comes to my beloved President!! :1orglaugh

Some of the people that are anti abortion should perhaps rethink before they post and see that this is a double loss of life 2 babies dying. There is no punch line here nothing to laugh over. Some of the comments posted here make you appear heartless therefore do nothing for your anti abortion aguements.

There are hundreds of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but if you are stupid and don't know about a damn rubber - it's your problem.

Jedi all of my respect for you just flew out the window after reading your ignorant fucking post.

You heartless piece of shit. Die. :321GFY

P.S. For the record, I am Pro-choice.. nobody has the right to tell a grown woman what they can or cannot do to something that they must be commited to for 18 years and 9 months of their life. An embryo is not a child, it is a fertilized egg.

when i heard of people getting abortions throughout my life i always thought to myself, "stupid whores, if they feel the need to open their legs then they should be ready to deal with the consequences"... rubbers can break...

i was in a situation where i was pretty sure mine did once, and i was fuckin paranoid till her next period, and i remember tellin her "um, you're gettin an abortion if theres a kid brewin in there" lol. it was a scary fuckin thought.


i don't believe whores, who continually have unprotected sex, should be able to have an abortion.. they need a fuckin wake up call, or atleast an STD or two to stop being such sluts lol.. but for those of us who had a condom break, i see it acceptable. not about to start workin my ass and not follow through w/ my dreams for some unwanted kid.

Lol well thanks! You're pretty smart too (except where it comes to your beloved president). However, I think we've agreed to disagree on Bush lol!!

I fully agree.. Sometimes circumstances are beyond the female's control, as in the circumstances I've mentioned, and others. But making a "mistake" is an unacceptable reason for ending a life. There IS no excuse for stupidity.

there are ways to prevent pregnancy.. and the rubber seems to be the only way a man has to deal with it.. but of course the girls are usually the ones that supply that too.... the real thing is improper education our young folks are recieving about birth control . I cant even begin to count how many times i have had condoms break,leak,fall off during intercourse....the only full proof was is absitnence.. but of course all the guys would be bitching about that too. It's both partys responsibility...takes two to make a child (unless its a test tube baby)...why you would laugh at a young girl who is obviously uneducated and made a bad decision to actually sleep with some moron and died trying to abort a fetus because supposedly trained officials told her it was safe is beyond me..grow the fuck up moron :321GFY

There are MILLIONS of people in the world who would do ANYTHING to have a child. Adoption is always an option too. I'm pro-choice as well.. Within reason. Do you HONESTLY believe that abortion is an acceptable form of birth control? I personally know three or four girls who've had 3 or more abortions. What's their excuse?

"Oh, I'm too fucking stupid to use a rubber, so I'm going to let the government pay for all kinds of abortions so I don't have to deal with my "oops". And believe me, someone always pays in the end. Do these dumb bitches HAVE an excuse at this point? No.

Pro-choice? The choice was already made when that grown woman CHOSE to have sex. She knew that having sex could make her pregnant, she chose to use birth control, not to use birth control or not to have sex period. The choice was already made. You can say "I didn't choose to become pregnant". Yeah ya did... if you didn't use protection you did. Rape cases don't pertain to any of the above, that's a whole different story and act of violence that no choice is given for.

Part of the problem is the fact that kids these days don't THINK before they do. If more girls had to deal with reality checks, maybe the whole scenario COULD be prevented more often. Education is important, but the information is available to anyone who seeks it. Even some who don't. Just because a girl doesn't use a rubber doesn't mean she's uneducated. I know several girls who's had useless abortions and were FULLY aware of the implications of unprotected sex. They just let their pussies do the thinking and didn't think later. This is the same reason why more and more teenagers today are getting AIDS. Not because they DON'T know, but because they DON'T CARE! They aren't forced to deal with the consequences of their actions, because there ARE so many quick fixes available. It's a TOUGH call. But if by 18 they don't know a rubber is a rule, they honestly can't make excuses anymore. What happened to this girl is EXTREMELY unfortunate, I don't think she DESERVED to die, but maybe it will act as an eye-opener to OTHER girls to use their fucking heads for once.

Exactly.. Like I've said already in this thread, you ask ANY kid (and I can guarantee, even 12-14 year olds would answer the same almost unanimously) and they will tell you unprotected sex is bad.. They can even most likely rattle off different forms of contraception. But how many of them will USE it? More than less, we all hope.

LadyM.. this isnt a pro-choice/pro-life debate.. to answer your inquiry, no I dont think abortion should be used as a form of birth control.. But I dont think anyone should be happy that this 18 year old girl died from it!

Same to you Furious_Female.. pro-choice/pro-life debate isnt something i care to get into.. that wasnt the intent of my post.. simply to point out how much of a fucking heartless bitch DarkJedi and anyone that supports his statements of Hate are.

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uh.. condoms break... pills dont work at 100%...

oh btw, when the condom breaks, is the second day pill considered killing the baby... since the egg was fertilized...?

Too bad he didn't mention she was a murderer too.

so what happens if you take the precautions yet they still fail, or lets say a rape victim becomes pregnant. is it supposed to be wrong for that person to have an abortion? u cant just say only those kinds of people can or the majority of women who want an abortion may lie and say they were raped, u cant have it both ways. abortion should always be allowed in our society under certain situtations, and someone shouldnt die based on a choice they made when they are 18 years old. god does not look down with hate and anger at these kind of people. he looks to them with forgiveness.

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Ahem, did you read my earlier post my dear? I already said rape victims and exceptional situations are not the same.

Here, in case you missed it.


I think abortion is one of those issues that's dependant on the situation. If some dumb bitch gets herself knocked up because she wasn't smart enough to wrap it, in MY perfect world she'd be forced to HAVE the baby, then give it up to a family that couldn't have children of their own and really wanted one. I disagree with abortion as a form of birth control, but I can't TOTALLY diasagree with abortion. What about aborting an etopic pregnancy (a tubal pregnancy). It's a pregnancy that WILL KILL both mother AND CHILD WITHOUT FAIL. Is she a murderer if she has an abortion in that case? What about a young girl (12-13 years old) who gets pregnant from brutal rape? Is she supposed to go through pregnancy and birth to a child who is the product of brutality? Or incest (where the child has good potential for retardation or other physical problems?). Honestly, I think it's very situational. Imagine being a woman in the positions I've mentioned here (or a child, for that matter) and then tell me that you would never have an abortion.

perfect i totally agree, my main point is people dont undertsand, to many people sit on a post, there has to be abortion allowed in this world.

I agree with you Lady M, and kids do make the wrong choices..as we did when we were young (i can speak for myself here). I drill my children all the time about condoms.. but they are not full proof ..not even near it. Why is the Male that gets the female preggos ever held responsible in these discussions.. no one even mentions the fact the male should be taking precautions too... how many guys spread their mighty seed around like it was nothing?..way too many. I believe a woman has the right to do with her body as she wishes.. and i dont think abortion should be used as a form of birthcontrol.....but laughing at a child dying (hell dark jedi, she could have been your next content girl) is just sad:(

If she had chosen to keep the baby, this wouldn't have happened.
So here's a hint: don't kill babies.



And to all the pro-choice tards: if you are immature enough to accept the consequences - don't have sex.

Considering that condoms break and the girl doesnt want to take pills, how hard could it be to pull out ? (not hard, I tried.) So if you are pro-choice, you might as well choose fucking right - choose to be a responsible person.

you dont have much sex do you? just because you pull out dont mean shit, some sperm is out before you "blow" your load.

What about the guys who go around spreading their seed wily nilly? If more men learned how to out on a condom, this wouldn't even be an issue. I don't think the girl got pregnant all by herself.....

Are you the same kind of idiot who considers killing abortion doctors 'pro-life'?

Choice and control over one's own body is important. I just wish there was more accountability to those who ARE stupid. Condoms are NOT 100% absolutely. Accidents happen.. but those are more in the realm of exceptional circumstances than just stupidity. It's sheer stupidity that makes me angry more than anything.. NEEDLESS killing of innocent lives.

not if your dick isn't broken and leaking out :1orglaugh


Edit: you are probably talking about prostate secretions which don't contain semen.

The girl can say NO - and there would be no sex.
But ofcourse it's much easier to choose to not be responsible.

Sure condoms break... but the spermicide can still be effective, especially when combined with the pill or other forms of contraception. The pill and other similiar methods, I believe are like 98-99% effective when taken properly. A condom isn't a shield of armor and the pill or other like preventions, don't stop STDs... BUT using a combination of both of these, the chances of becoming pregnant are VERY slim. Like I said before, it's either laziness, ignorance or plain carelessness. There's NO excuse for being irresponsible, in this era.

Slim but NOT 100% effective

tries to kill the baby and in turn kills herself? I don't think thats a bad or good thing but its kind of what she gets. Killing any person is wrong no matter how old they are.

She couldn't raise a baby?
then be responsible when you have sex, use birth control, condoms, ect..

The only time I could really understand someone murdering your child is if you were raped. I think that would be hell going through something like that.

I have 2 kids, none of which were planned. My wife died during birth of our secound child. I could have gave it up (im make around $300 a fucking month) but I am raising my two kids like a fucking man. U don't see me feeding them rat posion.

People are a bunch of pussies now a days, take responsoibility for your own fucking actions. Don't expect some magic pill to do it for you.

Nothing in life is 100% guaranteed, but the chances of contraception not working, when used properly is RARE.

Not having sex works 100% if you can't own up to the consequences without disregarding a life inside of you as a lump of cells.

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Sad!

Not funny.

Afuckingmen!! Notice how no one really answered this? Everyone on the old prolife bandwagon. It's no one's gawd damned business why people have abortions. It's nice to know that we have the option instead of having some back alley Dr. Frankinhook jacking you with a coat hanger or hoover like back in the day.

Not saying that abortion should be used as a form of birth control but shit happens. And this certainly is not funny by any means.

dumbass

Sheesh.... idiot ain't a word that even comes close. Sewage maybe, - but that can be recycled.