Threats to gallery template thiefs - GoFuckYourself.com

RaGe · 09-14-2003, 10:38 PM

Yo

I have people stealing my gallery templates and using them for themselves.. also people stealing my TGP design as well. Here's my gallery:

http://www.click4teens.com/cgf/09-13-2003/index.html

The offenders:

http://www.shiningballs.com/cgf10/k.html
http://www.pussyvid.com/00112/pussy342.html

The first guy even stole my content as well. These idiots were sending hits to my own custom Cute Girlfriend tour for a while, but now they're starting to change it to their own ARS codes.

What I'm asking is.. does anyone have a good email to send to thiefs like this threatening legal action? I figure an email to them, their host and their sponsor would likely stop them from using it without any "real" action, so I'm really only looking for a good email to use for now. Don't really want to take the time and money to get a lawyer involved just to write a threatening email.

If anyone would be able to let me use something like that that they have, I'd be most grateful

I'll even throw in a few free listings on bunnyteens.com if you do galleries of your own.

Thank you!

chowda · 09-14-2003, 10:40 PM

i have my c&d from ibm.. would u want acopy of that.. u can just copy and paste.. change it up.. its pretty scary ..

Sosa · 09-14-2003, 10:44 PM

Don't click the 2nd gallery stealer link. Fucking pop up hell, changes start up page, and adds bookmarks.

RaGe · 09-14-2003, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda
i have my c&d from ibm.. would u want acopy of that.. u can just copy and paste.. change it up.. its pretty scary ..

Meh, I wouldn't have IBM's permission to use it. Thats why I'm looking for maybe someone who did hire a lawyer themselves.. then they are giving me permission to use their own.

drunkdollars · 09-14-2003, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sosa
Don't click the 2nd gallery stealer link. Fucking pop up hell, changes start up page, and adds bookmarks.

And spyware that caused pop ups on certain sites

Time to clean my pc AGAIN

Martin · 09-14-2003, 10:47 PM

It happens to me alot.. E-mailing the sponsor sometimes works..

Vox · 09-14-2003, 10:52 PM

You should be able to find a generic c&d letter here: http://www.adultsitelaw.com/

Sosa · 09-14-2003, 10:54 PM

Yeah, I just got done running ad-aware. Damn fuckers

Jimbo · 09-14-2003, 10:55 PM

advertiser · 09-14-2003, 11:06 PM

they do it to me often
they are so dumb they send hits to my url.
On a serious side what worries me is if they fuck with the page will i get banned by virtue of my referal url?

RaGe · 09-14-2003, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sosa
Don't click the 2nd gallery stealer link. Fucking pop up hell, changes start up page, and adds bookmarks.

It does? Not for me.. hmm, that's strange. I even cleared my cache and tried it again. Maybe he has something country specific installed.

I just realized something.. the one guy is sending to my cute-girlfriend.info custom tour still, and the other guy I had thought changed to his own code however he's actually using the code with my account # still.. all he did was copy the join link from the last tour page and use that.

These guys are not too bright

Fletch XXX · 09-14-2003, 11:07 PM

There are gallery theives among you.

djdez · 09-14-2003, 11:08 PM

Legal documents can not be copyrighted. It would be fine if you used one that someone else received. The only problem is most are created to fit a certain situation. Though generic ones like C&D and NDA's you should be ok.

beemk · 09-14-2003, 11:11 PM

they do it and once they're listed they redirect

RaGe · 09-14-2003, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vox
You should be able to find a generic c&d letter here: http://www.adultsitelaw.com/

Thanks.. they have one form which I should be able to use.

Mr Pheer · 09-14-2003, 11:21 PM

people used to steal my shit all time from chatrooms

i'd make a simple page that took maybe 5 minutes to make, but instead of people spending 5 minutes of thier own time to be original, they steal my shit then go after the same traffic source

and then I get pages that I made sent to me as email spam, and when I contact the fucker to knock it off, they say "what? I made that page" yeah busted you fucking cocksucker.... I wont say his name but his initials are T.R.

I've even caught people stealing my pages because the idiot left my counter code on the page. And he runs an affiliate program now. I would say the name but it would just come out as "Hahahahaha"

that shit still pisses me off

jennycards · 09-14-2003, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkdollars

And spyware that caused pop ups on certain sites

Time to clean my pc AGAIN

May I suggest installing Googles Toolbar 2.0 with Pop-Up Blocker.

RaGe · 09-14-2003, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by beemk
they do it and once they're listed they redirect

Yeah, I get that a lot on my tgp.. I have to go through a couple times a day clicking all my galleries listed that day looking for any of those bastards. Usually blacklist 1 or 2 new domains per day.

RaGe · 09-14-2003, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by djdez
Legal documents can not be copyrighted. It would be fine if you used one that someone else received. The only problem is most are created to fit a certain situation. Though generic ones like C&D and NDA's you should be ok.

Nice.. didn't know that. Thanks

Plan9 · 09-14-2003, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RaGe
Yo

I have people stealing my gallery templates and using them for themselves.. also people stealing my TGP design as well. Here's my gallery:

http://www.click4teens.com/cgf/09-13-2003/index.html

The offenders:

http://www.shiningballs.com/cgf10/k.html
http://www.pussyvid.com/00112/pussy342.html

The first guy even stole my content as well. These idiots were sending hits to my own custom Cute Girlfriend tour for a while, but now they're starting to change it to their own ARS codes.

What I'm asking is.. does anyone have a good email to send to thiefs like this threatening legal action? I figure an email to them, their host and their sponsor would likely stop them from using it without any "real" action, so I'm really only looking for a good email to use for now. Don't really want to take the time and money to get a lawyer involved just to write a threatening email.

If anyone would be able to let me use something like that that they have, I'd be most grateful I'll even throw in a few free listings on bunnyteens.com if you do galleries of your own.

Thank you!

omg how did u find me out?!

GTS Mark · 09-14-2003, 11:38 PM

This happens to me all the time, usually the only time I find out is when I find sales from domains that don't belong to me.

I had a bad situation last month with a theif doing that to me with my gallery design and he inserted CP in as content. He even left my linking code in there. So when the FBI came to ccbill to talk to them about it they shut down my account for 3-4 days. I had to get on the horn with ccbill and convince them that the domain wasn't mine and this sort of thing with gallery theft happens alot. Thank god Corvette knows me and assured the powers that be that the domain most certainly wasn't mind and I was totally on the up and up.

It was a real eye opener to me plus I lost 3-4 days of sales plus rebills. Really fucking pissed me off!

DH

P.S. If you guys want to start a movement to start hunting these crooks down just sign me up, I will image source the living shit out of these fuckers until they stop.

zzgundamnzz · 09-14-2003, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
This happens to me all the time, usually the only time I find out is when I find sales from domains that don't belong to me.

I had a bad situation last month with a theif doing that to me with my gallery design and he inserted CP in as content. He even left my linking code in there. So when the FBI came to ccbill to talk to them about it they shut down my account for 3-4 days. I had to get on the horn with ccbill and convince them that the domain wasn't mine and this sort of thing with gallery theft happens alot. Thank god Corvette knows me and assured the powers that be that the domain most certainly wasn't mind and I was totally on the up and up.

It was a real eye opener to me plus I lost 3-4 days of sales plus rebills. Really fucking pissed me off!

DH

P.S. If you guys want to start a movement to start hunting these crooks down just sign me up, I will image source the living shit out of these fuckers until they stop.

Damn that fucked up what they did to you. Hope they get caught.

TomsPics · 09-14-2003, 11:58 PM

I find all the people who jack my shit submitting my stolen templates to my own tgp. Maybe some kind of "honeypot" idea with a fake TGP could be developed to find these people?

flashfreak · 09-15-2003, 12:04 AM

my galleries were stolen too... have a good laugh and check this shitty character: Donovan Phillips
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93241

MrLasVegas · 09-15-2003, 12:05 AM

Let me tell you all what I would do if I were in your shoes.

I won't give you any legal advice because I'm not licensed to practice law. But if it were me I'd do something similar to what I lay out below.

I indeed might want to send a Cease and Desist to put the alleged thief on notice. However this serves no legal purpose that I know of. Practically I might threaten a lawsuit in order to scare him into stopping.

However, if what I really want is for him to stop, I'd simply send a DMCA notice to his ISP or host; stating that my copyrighted material at THAT URL is being used without my permission and that they (the ISP) must take it down.

I can find legal information about the DMCA at http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf -- specifically see the summary in paragraph 2 on page 12; and more specifically the bullet points laid out at the actual congressional act at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...hrllgY:e57376: section 512.5.b.3. (if this URL fails, go to http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...:H.R.2281.ENR: then click on SEC. 202. LIMITATIONS ON LIABILITY FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.
) -- and finally review Latham and Watkin's alert put out here http://www.lw.com/resource/Publications/_pdf/pub331.pdf , page 4, right column, entitled "Proper written notification...".

This DMCA notice should be effective or give me legal grounds to hold the ISP responsible for the tortious actions of the user in addition to holding the user responsible. And the ISP is likely to have deeper and more convenient pockets making a meritful legal case worth the effort..

I also might go to www.chillingeffects.com and look around and find http://www.chillingeffects.org/fanfi...gi?NoticeID=7.

That's what i'd do. But you should figure out what you want to do after reading up on the law and/or talking w/ an attorney.

I also might want to consider the quote "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" and question my assumption that a template in and of itself is copyrightable, and that I have taken the proper steps to assert and/or register my copyright rights as a creator of a work.

mlv

flashfreak · 09-15-2003, 12:09 AM

hahaha.. I just re-read the donoshit thread, this is the best line:

" Your "work" wasn't stolen. The layout was copied. "

Trax · 09-15-2003, 12:20 AM

mailing ars should do it!

DarkJedi · 09-15-2003, 03:55 AM

these people only want your galleries to get listed on TGPs - then they just redirect traffic.

they leave your codes because they dont care about signups.
all they want is to redirect traffic (to dialers and what not)

sumphatpimp · 09-15-2003, 05:15 AM

you people make it easy for these cheaters by not using "right click protect"
won't stop all but it will help

Tuga · 09-15-2003, 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
you people make it easy for these cheaters by not using "right click protect"
won't stop all but it will help

TomsPics · 09-15-2003, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
you people make it easy for these cheaters by not using "right click protect"
won't stop all but it will help

Using right click would mean we would have to use jscript, alot of tgp's don't allow jscripts in the galleries they accept.

Donny · 09-15-2003, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
my galleries were stolen too... have a good laugh and check this shitty character: Donovan Phillips
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93241

2 Things:

1. **I** did not copy your gallery.

2. My girlfriend received permission from the company that owned the gallery (Kim Holland Cash) to use the design as a template. You may have designed it, but the client that purchased it owns the rights to it and gave her permission to use it.

EDIT: by the way, she changed 99% of it before it ever went live. You saw a few left over lines of code and started crying "cheater". Little did you know that about that time I'd just made a partnership agreement with Al Fore (ampland.com, al4a.com). Kim Holland is good friends with them.

Don't believe me? Ask John Scarpa, one of Al Fore's partners. He'll verify that Kim Holland Cash gave permission to use the design. But since you threw such a hissy fit she took it down and did a complete redesign.

And I decide to pay others like Fletch XXX to create future galleries. Or do them myself.

PimpMeNot · 09-15-2003, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sosa
Don't click the 2nd gallery stealer link. Fucking pop up hell, changes start up page, and adds bookmarks.

I conccur, nasty bastard; mshta.exe

KaLi · 09-15-2003, 05:41 PM

GAY!

btw, bought a spot on bunnyteens and its doing great! whoOoOoOOOO!

JoeS · 09-15-2003, 05:48 PM

CLICK EITHER OF THOSE TWO LINKS CAUSES POPUP HELL!

Thanks a fuckin lot!

and the sick fucking shit it pops to also!

09-14-2003, 10:38 PM	#1
RaGe Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,158	Threats to gallery template thiefs Yo I have people stealing my gallery templates and using them for themselves.. also people stealing my TGP design as well. Here's my gallery: http://www.click4teens.com/cgf/09-13-2003/index.html The offenders: http://www.shiningballs.com/cgf10/k.html http://www.pussyvid.com/00112/pussy342.html The first guy even stole my content as well. These idiots were sending hits to my own custom Cute Girlfriend tour for a while, but now they're starting to change it to their own ARS codes. What I'm asking is.. does anyone have a good email to send to thiefs like this threatening legal action? I figure an email to them, their host and their sponsor would likely stop them from using it without any "real" action, so I'm really only looking for a good email to use for now. Don't really want to take the time and money to get a lawyer involved just to write a threatening email. If anyone would be able to let me use something like that that they have, I'd be most grateful I'll even throw in a few free listings on bunnyteens.com if you do galleries of your own. Thank you! __________________ Get your guaranteed gallery listings on bunnyteens.com! Over 650k hits daily. One of the original thumb TGPs! Click here.

09-14-2003, 10:40 PM	#2
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	i have my c&d from ibm.. would u want acopy of that.. u can just copy and paste.. change it up.. its pretty scary .. __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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advertiser Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: mensa Posts: 457	they do it to me often they are so dumb they send hits to my url. On a serious side what worries me is if they fuck with the page will i get banned by virtue of my referal url?

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09-14-2003, 11:21 PM	#16
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21,388	people used to steal my shit all time from chatrooms i'd make a simple page that took maybe 5 minutes to make, but instead of people spending 5 minutes of thier own time to be original, they steal my shit then go after the same traffic source and then I get pages that I made sent to me as email spam, and when I contact the fucker to knock it off, they say "what? I made that page" yeah busted you fucking cocksucker.... I wont say his name but his initials are T.R. I've even caught people stealing my pages because the idiot left my counter code on the page. And he runs an affiliate program now. I would say the name but it would just come out as "Hahahahaha" that shit still pisses me off __________________ 2 lifeguards for Jessica

09-14-2003, 11:38 PM	#21
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	This happens to me all the time, usually the only time I find out is when I find sales from domains that don't belong to me. I had a bad situation last month with a theif doing that to me with my gallery design and he inserted CP in as content. He even left my linking code in there. So when the FBI came to ccbill to talk to them about it they shut down my account for 3-4 days. I had to get on the horn with ccbill and convince them that the domain wasn't mine and this sort of thing with gallery theft happens alot. Thank god Corvette knows me and assured the powers that be that the domain most certainly wasn't mind and I was totally on the up and up. It was a real eye opener to me plus I lost 3-4 days of sales plus rebills. Really fucking pissed me off! DH P.S. If you guys want to start a movement to start hunting these crooks down just sign me up, I will image source the living shit out of these fuckers until they stop.

09-14-2003, 11:58 PM	#23
TomsPics Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 498	I find all the people who jack my shit submitting my stolen templates to my own tgp. Maybe some kind of "honeypot" idea with a fake TGP could be developed to find these people?

09-15-2003, 12:04 AM	#24
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	my galleries were stolen too... have a good laugh and check this shitty character: Donovan Phillips http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93241 __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

09-15-2003, 12:05 AM	#25
MrLasVegas Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 39	Let me tell you all what I would do if I were in your shoes. I won't give you any legal advice because I'm not licensed to practice law. But if it were me I'd do something similar to what I lay out below. I indeed might want to send a Cease and Desist to put the alleged thief on notice. However this serves no legal purpose that I know of. Practically I might threaten a lawsuit in order to scare him into stopping. However, if what I really want is for him to stop, I'd simply send a DMCA notice to his ISP or host; stating that my copyrighted material at THAT URL is being used without my permission and that they (the ISP) must take it down. I can find legal information about the DMCA at http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf -- specifically see the summary in paragraph 2 on page 12; and more specifically the bullet points laid out at the actual congressional act at http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...hrllgY:e57376: section 512.5.b.3. (if this URL fails, go to http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/...:H.R.2281.ENR: then click on SEC. 202. LIMITATIONS ON LIABILITY FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. ) -- and finally review Latham and Watkin's alert put out here http://www.lw.com/resource/Publications/_pdf/pub331.pdf , page 4, right column, entitled "Proper written notification...". This DMCA notice should be effective or give me legal grounds to hold the ISP responsible for the tortious actions of the user in addition to holding the user responsible. And the ISP is likely to have deeper and more convenient pockets making a meritful legal case worth the effort.. I also might go to www.chillingeffects.com and look around and find http://www.chillingeffects.org/fanfi...gi?NoticeID=7. That's what i'd do. But you should figure out what you want to do after reading up on the law and/or talking w/ an attorney. I also might want to consider the quote "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" and question my assumption that a template in and of itself is copyrightable, and that I have taken the proper steps to assert and/or register my copyright rights as a creator of a work. mlv

09-15-2003, 12:09 AM	#26
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	hahaha.. I just re-read the donoshit thread, this is the best line: " Your "work" wasn't stolen. The layout was copied. " __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

09-15-2003, 12:20 AM	#27
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	mailing ars should do it!

09-15-2003, 03:55 AM	#28
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	these people only want your galleries to get listed on TGPs - then they just redirect traffic. they leave your codes because they dont care about signups. all they want is to redirect traffic (to dialers and what not)

09-15-2003, 05:15 AM	#29
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	you people make it easy for these cheaters by not using "right click protect" won't stop all but it will help

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09-15-2003, 05:48 PM	#35
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