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Doctor Dre · 09-12-2003, 11:52 PM

Brb in few mins getting some pop corn

liquidmoe · 09-12-2003, 11:52 PM

Its easy to say you wouldnt abandon a child now if you are living well and have the means to support yourself and the child comfortably. But 18 years ago who knows how well/bad Amp was and what circumstances surrounded the child being born, etc, so while its easy to pass judgement, its all a bunch of B.S. until you face the same situation.

And literally the same situation, because its easy to not abandon a child when you got the cash and time to care, but throw in inexperience, possibly a worse financial situation, and deranged mother and we'll see how quickly your morals start to fade.

Amputate Your Head · 09-12-2003, 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Nobody deserves any less than what they're willing to give.

I'm just doing my part.

In fact, in true Amp style, like him I have'nt read anything other than this thread about his posts and the situation. I'm just taking my cue from him and passing judgement without knowing the facts.

Sux, don't it Ampie-poo.

sure.... but I'm not gonna cry and join the army over it.

look! behind you! It's your mama's tit..... shouldn;t you get back to suckling on it? Or are you still sucking the recruiters cock for that dream military job? Oh well, either way you got something to suck on.... and at this stage, that very important for your development.

Gman.357 · 09-12-2003, 11:53 PM

Some women are so hardcore bitter after a sour relationship, they do everything they can to prevent the dad from seeing his son, and even go so far as to fill the kid's head with lies about his ol man, which makes it all that much harder for the dad to establish a relationship with his son. I think in some cases, it might actually be best for dad to keep away until the kid is older, because you might only screw the kid up worse.

I'm all for men being good fathers... I have a 3 month old myself now who I'm able to be with 24/7. But I can see how good intentions can get twisted into fucked up circumstances.

Doctor Dre · 09-12-2003, 11:55 PM

Womens are SNAKES . It's not always the father fault.

cluck · 09-12-2003, 11:56 PM

If schools wanna lower teen sexual activity rates, they should let the kids read posts like this

Gman.357 · 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Womens are SNAKES . It's not always the father fault.

Say that loud enough?

mrthumbs · 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by cluck
If schools wanna lower teen sexual activity rates, they should let the kids read posts like this

hahaha they are!!

BlueDesignStudios · 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by cluck
If schools wanna lower teen sexual activity rates, they should let the kids read posts like this

True...

Donny · 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by liquidmoe
Its easy to say you wouldnt abandon a child now if you are living well and have the means to support yourself and the child comfortably. But 18 years ago who knows how well/bad Amp was and what circumstances surrounded the child being born, etc, so while its easy to pass judgement, its all a bunch of B.S. until you face the same situation.

And literally the same situation, because its easy to not abandon a child when you got the cash and time to care, but throw in inexperience, possibly a worse financial situation, and deranged mother and we'll see how quickly your morals start to fade.

I disagree with you. I have a brother that has a very bad financial outlook, was way too immature to have a kid, lives in the slums, is surrounded by drugs, and is too lazy to get off his ass and look for a job.

But he won't let his little girl out of his sight. And he'd kill to protect her.

Bad, or sad, situations do not justify anything, especially when it comes to kids.

But I will leave Amp alone. I'm done. Off to bed.

hybrid · 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM

Oh, ouch, I may just kill myself because of the hate in your words.

Please, try again Lithium boy.

dropped9 · 09-12-2003, 11:57 PM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Say that loud enough?

NOPE!

Amputate Your Head · 09-13-2003, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
Oh, ouch, I may just kill myself because of the hate in your words.

Please, try again Lithium boy.

didn't you already promise that once too and fail?

go back to working at the Circle K register kid.... you don't belong here.

hybrid · 09-13-2003, 12:02 AM

you're a fucking loser.

Amputate Your Head · 09-13-2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by hybrid
you're a fucking loser.

if I'm a loser, you must be the lowest form of fucking life there is.

what exactly have you done again hybrid? I forget.....

oh yeah.... nothing. That's why I couldn't remember. There was nothing TO remember.

fucking waste of perfectly good oxygen.

liquidmoe · 09-13-2003, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

I disagree with you. I have a brother that has a very bad financial outlook, was way too immature to have a kid, lives in the slums, is surrounded by drugs, and is too lazy to get off his ass and look for a job.

But he won't let his little girl out of his sight. And he'd kill to protect her.

Bad, or sad, situations do not justify anything, especially when it comes to kids.

But I will leave Amp alone. I'm done. Off to bed.

I'm not saying that there arent people that have faced similar or even worse situations and succeeded, but I am saying that passing judgement without encoutering that situation yourself is a bit of an ass thing to do. I certainly can't cast any stones here because lord knows what I would do in a situation where a person I no longer wanted to have a relationship with was having a child with no consent from me.

I could lie to you and myself and say that I would without a doubt take care of the child, but I like to be honest and live in the real world, and I know that it would be a difficult decision and I dont know for a certainity that I would take care of the child. That's not to say Im a bad guy or immoral, but my point is that in situations like these people dont have a right to pass judgement unless they went through a similar experience.

It's like war, sure a person can talk shit and say he wants to fight and serve his country, but it happens often enough that when push comes to shove a few of those guys are no where to be found. Same situation.

hybrid · 09-13-2003, 12:06 AM

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if I'm a loser, you must be the lowest form of fucking life there is.

what exactly have you done again hybrid? I forget.....

oh yeah.... nothing. That's why I couldn't remember. There was nothing TO remember.

fucking waste of perfectly good oxygen.

DarkJedi · 09-13-2003, 12:08 AM

damn, looks like I missed some drama !
whats the original thread ?

Donny · 09-13-2003, 12:09 AM

Amp, my final post about this:

Only you know how hard you tried. If you honestly tried, keep trying. You'll eventually get your chance to get through to your son.

If you didn't try, you should.

You say you grew up without a dad. The cycle continues until someone breaks it. You can be that someone.

Deadbeat dads are my pet peeve. A lot of problems in this country are caused by deadbeat dads. Men need to start being men and take some responsibility. And I can't fathom how a man could stand to be away from his child. Mine is my world.

If I was unjustly hard on you I sincerely apologize. Maybe the intentions of the way you came across early in the other post was to prove your opinions on abortion. If that's the case, I can understand the reversal in your story.

If not... well, you know what I think. And so many others feel the same way.

Only you know the truth.

BlueDesignStudios · 09-13-2003, 12:10 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
damn, looks like I missed some drama !
whats the original thread ?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=173791

Amputate Your Head · 09-13-2003, 12:10 AM

speechless hybrid? Or are you sucking on your pacifier? You quoted but no comment.... wassup? Consulting your book of "Witty Retorts"?

better you keep your little fucking yapper shut anyway. Go play with yourself moron.

Honeyslut · 09-13-2003, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Womens are SNAKES . It's not always the father fault.

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Amputate Your Head · 09-13-2003, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Amp, my final post about this:

Only you know how hard you tried. If you honestly tried, keep trying. You'll eventually get your chance to get through to your son.

If you didn't try, you should.

You say you grew up without a dad. The cycle continues until someone breaks it. You can be that someone.

Deadbeat dads are my pet peeve. A lot of problems in this country are caused by deadbeat dads. Men need to start being men and take some responsibility. And I can't fathom how a man could stand to be away from his child. Mine is my world.

If I was unjustly hard on you I sincerely apologize. Maybe the intentions of the way you came across early in the other post was to prove your opinions on abortion. If that's the case, I can understand the reversal in your story.

If not... well, you know what I think. And so many others feel the same way.

Only you know the truth.

and like I have said repeatedly.... there is nothing "deadbeat" about me. I paid my fucking debt. Every goddamned cent and then some. I tried with the kid his whole life. I even tried to marry the bitch twice. I got nothing but heartache in return for 19 years of trying.

I am done. He's grown and he can do what he chooses. He has always known where I am. Sadly, the only time I've ever gotten a call is when they needed more money to cover something. So like I said... I paid my debt, and I'm done trying. I don't even know where he is at this point. Someday if he wants to get together, I will be here.... more than willing. But my chasing days are fucking over. And my days of any form of fucking contact with his whore mother are WAAAAAY done.

My story has not changed in the slightest. If you actually took "5 hours" to be literal, then that's your own fucking fault. No, I did not live next door to them. ANd that's probably the only thing I could have done on top of what I did. If that makes me a "deadbeat dad" then yeah.... I guess I am. Too bad so fucking sad. I got a life too. I offered it more than once to them and they didn't fucking want it.

That's the last I got to say on it. You and Carrie wanna pin me as some kinda fucking demon for that.... that's your issue man.... not mine. I could fucking care less. I've done my time. I owe nothin' to no damn body.

Ironhorse · 09-13-2003, 12:19 AM

Waha I sale pissfest proof umbrellas!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-13-2003, 12:21 AM

"A lot of problems in this country are caused by deadbeat dads."

False.

The problems concerning laws to parenting are the problem. Women/girls know they have the upper hand legally. Many choose to live the welfare life, poppin out children after finding a sperm doner.
Many women work the system and they work it hard.

So again.

Wear a condom.

To add to the condom thing, besure when ya take the condom off ya put tobasco sauce in it when ya throw it away, some bitches will fiend on on the condom to get the sperm out and in there pussy or make sure the damn thing flushes.
Lets see Fathers paying child support is pretty huge depending on the fathers income. Its not a flat fee its a curve.

However women using the welfare system over the period of time take a heavy toll on the system in itself.

VanHeusen · 09-13-2003, 12:32 AM

i know of 2 uncles in my family who have had there relationships poisned by the mother.

certain women can be real bitches and turn the child against the father.

PersianKitty · 09-13-2003, 12:34 AM

At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met types from behind a monitor thousands of miles away.

Gman.357 · 09-13-2003, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met type from behind a monitor thousands of miles away.

VERY well said.

John3 · 09-13-2003, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met types from behind a monitor thousands of miles away.

still single?

AWW - Kevin · 09-13-2003, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met types from behind a monitor thousands of miles away.

while i agree with most of what you said, aren't we
judging people all the time based on what we read or hear,
in the news or from others..?

SleazyDream · 09-13-2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met types from behind a monitor thousands of miles away.

i just like fuckin with people

BlueDesignStudios · 09-13-2003, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PersianKitty
At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met types from behind a monitor thousands of miles away.

Very true & Well said

Honeyslut · 09-13-2003, 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by PersianKitty
At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met types from behind a monitor thousands of miles away.

so true. Some of these folks should just stop typing....

Example.

The name honeyslut is a joke cause I married to a man who has not fucked me in almost 8 years...

Yeah, I am a REAL slut...

foolio · 09-13-2003, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Womens are SNAKES . It's not always the father fault.

And it is never the kids fault. There is not a single child that asked to be born.

AMP said he tried, you gotta give him credit for that. And he paid every penny in child support. Thats ALOT more than most assholes do, so he earns much credit from me for that.

If he did not care about the kid he could have signed away his parental rights and he could have washed his hands of the kid, but he did not do it.

AMP, if ya tried to be a father then good for you, I hope everything works out for the best in the end. Kids are great - no matter what there is a bond you can't deny between a father and a son no matter what the relationship is.

Keep being the better parent, things will work out for you.

Carrie · 09-13-2003, 02:36 AM

Keep being the better parent??
Paying a check is being a better parent?
The kid was nothing more than a BILL to him!
Did he change the shitty diapers? Did he sit up with the colic? Did he deal with the chicken pox? With the struggle over learning the alphabet, reading, doing math? With the confusion over girls? With puberty? With deciding what he wants to do with his life?
Did he fix lunch and dinner and sit arguing with a stubborn child who decided he didn't want to eat? Did he clean the house time and time again because a cute toddler thought the floor looked better covered in colorful toys?

Fuck that. Paying a check is NOT being a better parent.
If you think that, you're as fucked in the head as he is.

Oh, and Amp, you DID change your story. The proof is out there. Repeating yourself over and over that you didn't, doesn't make it true.
And now you're a serial killer. Ooooooooh, I'm so afraid.

Fucking please.
We drop the issue in another thread and you go starting a second thread to try to maximize the attention - what a cute little drama queen you are.

You are a fantastic designer - but that's all you've got going for you, and you know it. Hence your hate for the world.

Live with it. You ousted yourself and got caught showing what a piece of shit you are, changing your story and then whining about it in another thread.

Fucking grow up. The only person who gives a flying fuck about you, IS you. Being a self-centered asshole won't make it any better.

DarkJedi · 09-13-2003, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Womens are SNAKES . It's not always the father fault.

Yep, AMP has 3 kids and calls them all "accidents".

Women are such snakes !!

grumpy · 09-13-2003, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs

like Amp says himself i usually have no clue about things so
any opportunity to hit someone without much effort i take.

But in this case: you must agree that every post he made related
to this topic proves, in his own stubbern way, that he cares.

Nicely said...somebody must be chilling out

grogan · 09-13-2003, 03:21 AM

eye openers?

flavors for tonight (I only did the one on the left, they are both kinda cute actually.)

LadyMischief · 09-13-2003, 06:17 AM

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Originally posted by grogan
eye openers?

flavors for tonight (I only did the one on the left, they are both kinda cute actually.)

Fuck off with your ugly whores man. You think you're so cool posting yourself with your arms around them. Why not post yourself with one on your face and the other on your dick, otherwise, fuck right the fuck off..

As for this Amp thing, I don't think ANYONE has the right to fucking point fingers. You didn't live his life, you didn't deal with his cirucumstances. What he says is probably the truth, and I HAVE LIVED IT! From the child's standpoint. My mother spent my ENTIRE LIFE trying to keep my father away from me. Not because he was a bad man. Just the opposite, he was a good man and everyone who knew him loved him. Just because she was a spiteful bitch. She spent YEARS brainwashing me about how he didn't love me, yet all the while he asked her again and again to see me, sent gifts and called, and finally just stopped trying. I will NEVER FORGIVE her for taking that part of my life away from me, AND MY children. I have now been searching for my father for 10 years, and every bitter day I will think about the reason for it.

Amp, Someday that kid will come looking. As long as you're there when he needs you, that's all you can do right now. These people all seem to think it's ok to just go charging into a child's life and uproot their entire world, because if you're the father "It's the responsible thing to do". I call bullshit. Sometimes it's best to leave the hell alone for a while, especially when someone is spouting poison about you in that child's ear. Sometimes it's not about what's best for you, it's what's best for the CHILD...

Pride is smaller than wisdom.

DrewKole · 09-13-2003, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

And whether or not you "like me" is completely fucking irrelevant.

That's bullshit, you and the rest of the board both know, your life revolves around what people on this board think of you.

Or else you wouldn't make feeble attempts to "own" people all the time, so you could hear the cheers of the few that actually think you have any intelligence at all.

Luckily, the majority of the board, knows the real you. =)

Captain Canada · 09-13-2003, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

Just telling it like it is.

No, you're not - your're telling it like you see it, you can't be telling it like it is because you can't possibly know how it is.

It's very difficult to jugde someone else when you have been sitting with them for years - to try and do so after reading a posting on a message board is just childish, egotistical and self righteous.

Ross · 09-13-2003, 01:02 PM

Shit Amp is gonna kick ass.......

tootie · 09-13-2003, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
My best guess is it's due to growing up hearing nothing but his mother's fucking lies.

I know you and I don't see eye-to-eye on the abortion thing, but that really is irrelevant here. Also, this is none of my business so I hope you'll forgive me for butting in.

But this sentence (quoted above) really struck a chord with me. Perhaps the reason he chooses to exclude you and your family from his life is because he grew up with his mother telling him that you don't love him, you don't care about him, you wanted her to abort him (whatever, I'm just making guesses as to possibilities here.)...

If he grew up thinking you hated him then it's no wonder he made that choice.

Now it's completely your decision as to whether you truly want to be a part of his life ot not, but if you do, then simply telling him your side of the story might be just what he needs to realize just what he's missing by not having his father in his life. I am certainly not going to tell you what to do. If you don't want to see him, that's your business, not mine. I'm simply pointing out possibilities.

Differences aside, I wish you luck. I hope that one day perhaps you and your son might have a better relationship.

Best wishes.

LadyMischief · 09-13-2003, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by tootie

I know you and I don't see eye-to-eye on the abortion thing, but that really is irrelevant here. Also, this is none of my business so I hope you'll forgive me for butting in.

But this sentence (quoted above) really struck a chord with me. Perhaps the reason he chooses to exclude you and your family from his life is because he grew up with his mother telling him that you don't love him, you don't care about him, you wanted her to abort him (whatever, I'm just making guesses as to possibilities here.)...

If he grew up thinking you hated him then it's no wonder he made that choice.

Now it's completely your decision as to whether you truly want to be a part of his life ot not, but if you do, then simply telling him your side of the story might be just what he needs to realize just what he's missing by not having his father in his life. I am certainly not going to tell you what to do. If you don't want to see him, that's your business, not mine. I'm simply pointing out possibilities.

Differences aside, I wish you luck. I hope that one day perhaps you and your son might have a better relationship.

Best wishes.

I grew up that way, and it's an ugly way to grow up, believe me. If my father had walked into my life when I was still under my mother's influence, I would have turned up my nose and walked away. It wasn't until time passed and I learned the true story that I changed my mind and decided to find the man who helped make me. The problem with the parent in that situation is it's hard to know when the right time is to come into a child's life, after having poison dumped in their minds for years. They have loyalty and love for the parent that told them the lies, and they don't want to disbelieve them. Trust me, it's a life-altering experience to ever imagine a parent could do something so hurtful to you, and a kid has to come to grips with that too. I applaud those who realize that and are there when the decision is made.

SleazyDream · 09-13-2003, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by grogan
eye openers?

flavors for tonight (I only did the one on the left, they are both kinda cute actually.)

I'm willing to be you didn't tell her you made a PUBLIC post on a message baord telling the world that you fucked her.

but I know your number and I'm gona start callign at random till I hear a girls voice answer. then I'm gona tell her everything.

Amputate Your Head · 09-13-2003, 01:20 PM

well, carrie.... you're wrong. and that's all I got to say on it. Sorry you feel that way, but I'm done arguing with you, and I'm done explaining to you. You don't know the deal, you refuse to hear anything other that what you want, and you believe what you wanna believe. Doesn't matter. I'm done with this. So go ahead and rant on. I won't be checking back on this thread again.

optikalz · 09-13-2003, 02:24 PM

Carrie, you are very eloquent and a damn intelligent debater.
Much Respect to ya!

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
Keep being the better parent??
Paying a check is being a better parent?
The kid was nothing more than a BILL to him!
Did he change the shitty diapers? Did he sit up with the colic? Did he deal with the chicken pox? With the struggle over learning the alphabet, reading, doing math? With the confusion over girls? With puberty? With deciding what he wants to do with his life?
Did he fix lunch and dinner and sit arguing with a stubborn child who decided he didn't want to eat? Did he clean the house time and time again because a cute toddler thought the floor looked better covered in colorful toys?

Fuck that. Paying a check is NOT being a better parent.
If you think that, you're as fucked in the head as he is.

Oh, and Amp, you DID change your story. The proof is out there. Repeating yourself over and over that you didn't, doesn't make it true.
And now you're a serial killer. Ooooooooh, I'm so afraid.

Fucking please.
We drop the issue in another thread and you go starting a second thread to try to maximize the attention - what a cute little drama queen you are.

You are a fantastic designer - but that's all you've got going for you, and you know it. Hence your hate for the world.

Live with it. You ousted yourself and got caught showing what a piece of shit you are, changing your story and then whining about it in another thread.

Fucking grow up. The only person who gives a flying fuck about you, IS you. Being a self-centered asshole won't make it any better.

Gemini · 09-13-2003, 03:51 PM

Amp you know I'm NOT your best buddy. But I know what you are saying. I could tell you stories that would scare the tats and spikes right from your stupid hair. lol And THAT was from my own daughter.

Now we're dealing with it from the hubbys side. And have to pull out the lawyers this time to deal with it. His son totally is ignoring him too and has for several years. BUT, when I went to pick up his daughter (after 3+ yrs of NO word from her or them) , his son was in his ROTC uniform, saluted me AND opened my car door. I was a yes Ma'am, no ma'am, may I help you with that ma'am. He may be ticced from what his Mom had to say but he's a good kid. (19 also)

You have to do whatchu got to do sometimes. Your boy will come around. Later more than sooner being he's male. ;-)

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09-13-2003, 12:21 AM	#76
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	"A lot of problems in this country are caused by deadbeat dads." False. The problems concerning laws to parenting are the problem. Women/girls know they have the upper hand legally. Many choose to live the welfare life, poppin out children after finding a sperm doner. Many women work the system and they work it hard. So again. Wear a condom. To add to the condom thing, besure when ya take the condom off ya put tobasco sauce in it when ya throw it away, some bitches will fiend on on the condom to get the sperm out and in there pussy or make sure the damn thing flushes. Lets see Fathers paying child support is pretty huge depending on the fathers income. Its not a flat fee its a curve. However women using the welfare system over the period of time take a heavy toll on the system in itself. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \| Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 09-13-2003 at 12:24 AM..

09-12-2003, 11:52 PM	#53
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	Its easy to say you wouldnt abandon a child now if you are living well and have the means to support yourself and the child comfortably. But 18 years ago who knows how well/bad Amp was and what circumstances surrounded the child being born, etc, so while its easy to pass judgement, its all a bunch of B.S. until you face the same situation. And literally the same situation, because its easy to not abandon a child when you got the cash and time to care, but throw in inexperience, possibly a worse financial situation, and deranged mother and we'll see how quickly your morals start to fade.

09-12-2003, 11:53 PM	#55
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	Some women are so hardcore bitter after a sour relationship, they do everything they can to prevent the dad from seeing his son, and even go so far as to fill the kid's head with lies about his ol man, which makes it all that much harder for the dad to establish a relationship with his son. I think in some cases, it might actually be best for dad to keep away until the kid is older, because you might only screw the kid up worse. I'm all for men being good fathers... I have a 3 month old myself now who I'm able to be with 24/7. But I can see how good intentions can get twisted into fucked up circumstances.

09-12-2003, 11:57 PM	#62
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	Oh, ouch, I may just kill myself because of the hate in your words. Please, try again Lithium boy.

09-13-2003, 12:02 AM	#65
hybrid So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Backseat of a Ford Escort Hatchback Posts: 3,253	you're a fucking loser.

09-13-2003, 12:08 AM	#69
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	damn, looks like I missed some drama ! whats the original thread ?

09-13-2003, 12:09 AM	#70
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Amp, my final post about this: Only you know how hard you tried. If you honestly tried, keep trying. You'll eventually get your chance to get through to your son. If you didn't try, you should. You say you grew up without a dad. The cycle continues until someone breaks it. You can be that someone. Deadbeat dads are my pet peeve. A lot of problems in this country are caused by deadbeat dads. Men need to start being men and take some responsibility. And I can't fathom how a man could stand to be away from his child. Mine is my world. If I was unjustly hard on you I sincerely apologize. Maybe the intentions of the way you came across early in the other post was to prove your opinions on abortion. If that's the case, I can understand the reversal in your story. If not... well, you know what I think. And so many others feel the same way. Only you know the truth.

09-13-2003, 12:32 AM	#77
VanHeusen Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 536	i know of 2 uncles in my family who have had there relationships poisned by the mother. certain women can be real bitches and turn the child against the father. __________________ XXXClusivePorn $1 per email

09-13-2003, 12:34 AM	#78
PersianKitty Meow Media Inc. Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: In the valley of the sun, cactus, tacos, tequila, and nod Posts: 7,785	At the risk of getting pounded on myself here (yeah go ahead throw stones).. I CHOOSE to feel that no one can judge anyone else unless they've lived that person's life. Typing things here on a keyboard and reading them off the screen doesn't give anyone the true tone of the words.. whether they are joyful, sorryful, regretful, or anything in between. All trying to pass judgement does is to cause everyone to get on the defensive and before you know it, you've spent the whole day angry at what someone you've never met types from behind a monitor thousands of miles away. __________________ Wondering what webmaster programs PK uses? Check them out here! Last edited by PersianKitty; 09-13-2003 at 12:38 AM..

09-13-2003, 02:36 AM	#86
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	Keep being the better parent?? Paying a check is being a better parent? The kid was nothing more than a BILL to him! Did he change the shitty diapers? Did he sit up with the colic? Did he deal with the chicken pox? With the struggle over learning the alphabet, reading, doing math? With the confusion over girls? With puberty? With deciding what he wants to do with his life? Did he fix lunch and dinner and sit arguing with a stubborn child who decided he didn't want to eat? Did he clean the house time and time again because a cute toddler thought the floor looked better covered in colorful toys? Fuck that. Paying a check is NOT being a better parent. If you think that, you're as fucked in the head as he is. Oh, and Amp, you DID change your story. The proof is out there. Repeating yourself over and over that you didn't, doesn't make it true. And now you're a serial killer. Ooooooooh, I'm so afraid. Fucking please. We drop the issue in another thread and you go starting a second thread to try to maximize the attention - what a cute little drama queen you are. You are a fantastic designer - but that's all you've got going for you, and you know it. Hence your hate for the world. Live with it. You ousted yourself and got caught showing what a piece of shit you are, changing your story and then whining about it in another thread. Fucking grow up. The only person who gives a flying fuck about you, IS you. Being a self-centered asshole won't make it any better.

09-13-2003, 03:21 AM	#89
grogan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: CHICAGO Posts: 2,284	eye openers? flavors for tonight (I only did the one on the left, they are both kinda cute actually.)

09-13-2003, 01:02 PM	#93
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	Shit Amp is gonna kick ass.......

09-13-2003, 01:20 PM	#97
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	well, carrie.... you're wrong. and that's all I got to say on it. Sorry you feel that way, but I'm done arguing with you, and I'm done explaining to you. You don't know the deal, you refuse to hear anything other that what you want, and you believe what you wanna believe. Doesn't matter. I'm done with this. So go ahead and rant on. I won't be checking back on this thread again. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

09-13-2003, 03:51 PM	#99
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	Amp you know I'm NOT your best buddy. But I know what you are saying. I could tell you stories that would scare the tats and spikes right from your stupid hair. lol And THAT was from my own daughter. Now we're dealing with it from the hubbys side. And have to pull out the lawyers this time to deal with it. His son totally is ignoring him too and has for several years. BUT, when I went to pick up his daughter (after 3+ yrs of NO word from her or them) , his son was in his ROTC uniform, saluted me AND opened my car door. I was a yes Ma'am, no ma'am, may I help you with that ma'am. He may be ticced from what his Mom had to say but he's a good kid. (19 also) You have to do whatchu got to do sometimes. Your boy will come around. Later more than sooner being he's male. ;-) __________________ <center><a target="_blank" href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac"><img border="0" src="http://216.130.172.224/gfy/gsig.gif" width="490" height="100"></a><br><a href="http://dev.datedollars.com/index.php?s=signup&aid=535&cfg=aac" target="_blank"><b><font face="Arial"><font color="#FF99FF"> Buy me away from Slavedriver Smokey!<br>It's May Sig Sweeps!<font></b></center>