Mercedes E55 AMG?s vs Ford Mustang Cobra Modified - GoFuckYourself.com

slaphappy · 09-08-2003, 09:52 PM

If you have 3 mins to kill, check out this video.

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BigFish · 09-08-2003, 09:59 PM

bad ass

chowda · 09-08-2003, 10:00 PM

i cry

HEARTBREAKER · 09-08-2003, 10:01 PM

bad link...

beemk · 09-08-2003, 10:02 PM

lol ive seen those animated smileys on gfy

ytcracker · 09-08-2003, 10:03 PM

amg bitch nothing better

shima · 09-08-2003, 10:04 PM

So who wins? I'm on GPRS right now, it will take me forever to download 10MB. But I'm curios. I don't beleive that Found On Road Dead could beat the Mercedes.

BigFish · 09-08-2003, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by shima
So who wins? I'm on GPRS right now, it will take me forever to download 10MB. But I'm curios. I don't beleive that Found On Road Dead could beat the Mercedes.

e55 kicked cobra's ass

OneHungLo · 09-08-2003, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by shima
So who wins? I'm on GPRS right now, it will take me forever to download 10MB. But I'm curios. I don't beleive that Found On Road Dead could beat the Mercedes.

benz won by about 3 cars

lil2rich4u2 · 09-08-2003, 10:12 PM

think that benz is stock?

are they really that fast?

Swiftone · 09-08-2003, 10:31 PM

DIdn't watch the video because im on the 56k now, but whoever said 'Is the AMG stock?', theres two things that could have happened here.

1.) It was a 99 or 2001 Cobra, or 2.) The AMG was quite modded.

You're comparing a 390hp/390ft lb torque weight 3650 car to a 349hp/391tq weight 4800+. It will take heavy mods for the AMG to even get past the weight disadvantage on a stock Cobra let alone one modded.

shima · 09-08-2003, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
think that benz is stock?

are they really that fast?

Not sure about this one, but stock Mercedes SLR McLaren Edition is 3.9s to 60mph.

Swiftone · 09-08-2003, 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by shima

Not sure about this one, but stock Mercedes SLR McLaren Edition is 3.9s to 60mph.

e55 not nearly that fast.

Muffin · 09-08-2003, 10:36 PM

Hands down, Merc. The E55 on its own is a bad assed, kick ass, you better move if it comes up your rear on the highway car!!!!

BigFish · 09-08-2003, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
DIdn't watch the video because im on the 56k now, but whoever said 'Is the AMG stock?', theres two things that could have happened here.

1.) It was a 99 or 2001 Cobra, or 2.) The AMG was quite modded.

You're comparing a 390hp/390ft lb torque weight 3650 car to a 349hp/391tq weight 4800+. It will take heavy mods for the AMG to even get past the weight disadvantage on a stock Cobra let alone one modded.

Where u getting ur facts at. AMG:

Net power 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm

Net torque 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm

>>>>>>>at 2650 RPM!!!

Oh yeah. And it's supercharged hence the jet engine noise in the video.

Nanda · 09-08-2003, 10:37 PM

That cobra is sweet...

magicmike · 09-08-2003, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
DIdn't watch the video because im on the 56k now, but whoever said 'Is the AMG stock?', theres two things that could have happened here.

1.) It was a 99 or 2001 Cobra, or 2.) The AMG was quite modded.

You're comparing a 390hp/390ft lb torque weight 3650 car to a 349hp/391tq weight 4800+. It will take heavy mods for the AMG to even get past the weight disadvantage on a stock Cobra let alone one modded.

The '03 E55 AMG is

Net power 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm

Net torque 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm

Edit * Haha took me too long to post I think

P-K · 09-08-2003, 10:39 PM

Anyone ever test drive CL600 or SL 500 new models? If you did, how are your thoughts on it?

TurboTrucker · 09-08-2003, 10:40 PM

Slaphappy do you post at LS1.com?

Actually it was a 2003 cobra and they said that it dynoed 450 RWHP.

Quote:

Originally posted by Swiftone
DIdn't watch the video because im on the 56k now, but whoever said 'Is the AMG stock?', theres two things that could have happened here.

1.) It was a 99 or 2001 Cobra, or 2.) The AMG was quite modded.

You're comparing a 390hp/390ft lb torque weight 3650 car to a 349hp/391tq weight 4800+. It will take heavy mods for the AMG to even get past the weight disadvantage on a stock Cobra let alone one modded.

Swiftone · 09-08-2003, 10:42 PM

Whoops, I didn't know the 2003 model was upgraded, I only had the 2002 spec memorized, the non supercharged edition.

the Shemp · 09-08-2003, 10:43 PM

that wasnt a 1/4 mile race. inconclusive.

Swiftone · 09-08-2003, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish

Where u getting ur facts at. AMG:

Net power 469 hp @ 6,100 rpm

Net torque 516 lb-ft. @ 2,650 - 4,500 rpm

>>>>>>>at 2650 RPM!!!

Oh yeah. And it's supercharged hence the jet engine noise in the video.

I was looking at the 2002 model that I guess wasnt supercharged, thats pretty sweet. Is it's weight still 4810 tho? A guy mentioned the Cobra was 450rwhp which equates to over 520 flywheel hp, so I still maintain the e55 has isn't stock. I think the guy who has the e55 actually posts on SVTPERFORMANCE.com perhaps, because I remember some guy there posting a couple of days ago a video of his e55 (He says it runs about 11.3 in the 1/4) racing a friends 450rwhp 03 Cobra.

Btw I wasn't trying to insult the e55's I know they are badass.

BigFish · 09-08-2003, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
I was looking at the 2002 model that I guess wasnt supercharged, thats pretty sweet. Is it's weight still 4810 tho? A guy mentioned the Cobra was 450rwhp which equates to over 520 flywheel hp, so I still maintain the e55 has isn't stock. I think the guy who has the e55 actually posts on SVTPERFORMANCE.com perhaps, because I remember some guy there posting a couple of days ago a video of his e55 (He says it runs about 11.3 in the 1/4) racing a friends 450rwhp 03 Cobra.

Btw I wasn't trying to insult the e55's I know they are badass.

Both cars are badass!!!!!!!

quiet · 09-08-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by P-K
Anyone ever test drive CL600 or SL 500 new models? If you did, how are your thoughts on it?

i've driven the brand new SL500, less than two weeks ago (days before i bought my new C4S). i came away thinking the car had waaaay too many dodads and gadgets (over 750 page manual!!). i was seriously considering getting one, but as much as i like the car, it just wasn't for for me. i love sports cars too much...

Swiftone · 09-08-2003, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish

Both cars are badass!!!!!!!

Indeed.

Swiftone · 09-08-2003, 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

i've driven a brand new SL500.i came away thinking the car had waaaay too many dodads and gadgets (over 750 page manual!!). i was seriously considering getting one, but as much as i like the car, it just wasn't for for me. i love sports cars too much...

Tell me about it. People are always harassing me about my Cobra 'ooh why didnt you get a ___insert luxury car model here__ it has leet features'. I just don't need in dash navigations, climate control that utilizes force fields, features that drive the car for me and make sure I dont hit the person in front of me, etc.

magicmike · 09-08-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
I just don't need in dash navigations, climate control that utilizes force fields,

What they have that now

Doctor Dre · 09-08-2003, 11:09 PM

That benz aiin't stock or the mustang suck bad . Anyways who knows .

p00p · 09-08-2003, 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by Swiftone

You're comparing a 390hp/390ft lb torque weight 3650 car

390 rw or flywheel hp in a stock 2003 Cobra?

Swiftone · 09-08-2003, 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

390 rw or flywheel hp in a stock 2003 Cobra?

It's rated 390 flyhweel, but the average 03 stock cobra dyno after 2500 miles (breakin) is around 375rwhp, so its more like 425 flywheel stock. Under rated quite a bit, for once.

09-08-2003, 11:58 PM

It is strange, but Mercedes faster

p00p · 09-09-2003, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by Swiftone
It's rated 390 flyhweel, but the average 03 stock cobra dyno after 2500 miles (breakin) is around 375rwhp, so its more like 425 flywheel stock. Under rated quite a bit, for once.

Odd. I've seen dyno charts posted on the net, and they are all near 360 rwhp. Do you have a dyno of yours?

Jakke PNG · 09-09-2003, 01:00 AM

Do you people really like Mustangs? I wouldn't take one even if I got it for free. Not saying it must be a nice car putting up with an AMG merc, but still...

Big E · 09-09-2003, 07:48 AM

[Disclaimer: I own an '01 Cobra vert]

1) The AMG *is* really that fast.. 0-60 in 4.3 seconds (http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/detai...nt=performance)

2) The '03 Cobras stock are really, REALLY fun cars to drive.. lots of HP and lots of torque for a very cheap price.

3) There was no 2002 Cobra (99-01-03-05)..

4) The stock '03s are running around 370 rwhp, when the claim by Ford is 390 flywheel HP.. severly underrated - they are probably 425 flywheel.

5) Cobra vs MB? Not even close.. take the MB every time, but we're talking a $37k car vs an $80k car.. who in their right mind would take the cheaper car? If you wantd the Cobra, take the Benz, sell it and mod the shit out of the Cobra.. =)

The stock Cobra is really a great car for the money, but if you took an '01 and threw a Vortech SC and some other simple mods, you'd have a 550-575hp monster for less than either the '03 or the E55.. and you'd be a sleeper - no one would know until you blew their doors off. Not saying that anyone's done that.. ;-)

slaphappy · 09-09-2003, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by TurboTrucker
Slaphappy do you post at LS1.com?

Sure don't. My brother is a Mustang enthusiast and he passed this video on to me..

com · 09-09-2003, 08:01 AM

Thats almost as good as the video of the 91 civic hatch back smoking the viper!

http://www.streetracing.com/media/videos/2/hcvdv.mpeg

candyflip · 09-09-2003, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by com
Thats almost as good as the video of the 91 civic hatch back smoking the viper!

http://www.streetracing.com/media/videos/2/hcvdv.mpeg

I have one of a Rabbit laying waste to a 911. Trying to dig it up.

com · 09-09-2003, 08:18 AM

That wasn't shot at the SD street races was it? I bore witness to an old VW rabbit laying waste to several blown V8s, only fucker who took it was this camarow w/slicks that would do wheelies down the road.

p00p · 09-09-2003, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Big E

4) The stock '03s are running around 370 rwhp, when the claim by Ford is 390 flywheel HP.. severly underrated - they are probably 425 flywheel.

No, they are yet again over-rated by Ford. 350-360 rwhp. Stock.
Of course all the peeps on the boards that don't even own a Cobra, have never driven one, or dynoed one will disagree with actual proof.

http://users.ev1.net/~haskett/cobra/dyno.html
http://www.mafterburner.com/Baseline_dyno.htm
http://www.seanhylandmotorsport.com/...obra_400hp.pdf
http://www.cnlperformance.com/95mm_03cobra.html

Big E · 09-09-2003, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by p00p
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No, they are yet again over-rated by Ford. 350-360 rwhp. Stock.
Of course all the peeps on the boards that don't even own a Cobra, have never driven one, or dynoed one will disagree with actual proof.

A lot of people talk shit out of their ass.. all I know is that the dynos I saw at JBA Racing (San Diego) on a stock '03 were ~370hp.

However, keep in mind that the Ford production line for '03 Cobras was shut down and re-tooled after the 1st run of cars (I never did hear what the problem was but I know it happened because I was wait-listed for the second production run). It's likely that the performance was modifed (either up or down).

ytcracker · 09-09-2003, 09:02 AM

my buddy has a vortec supercharged 98 cobra - they are sweet cars. my first car was an 85 5.o - mustangs are dope.

the thing about mercedes is you can smoke ricers in your heated leather seats while you sip your latte.

i have an 89 crx with a NA jspec sir b16 swap that runs the quarter in 14.5. i had a 98 turbo integra gsr that ran a 12.7. the fact is those cars might be faster than some traditional luxury cars, but you have to understand that at the end of the day its still just an integra or a crx.

buy a crx for 2k spend 2500 on a motor and 3k on internals and turbo = 7k and yes you will beat a lot of cars

but just because you can beat a ferrari doesnt mean youre going to pull more hoes in a crx that mentality is retarded.

p00p · 09-09-2003, 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Big E

A lot of people talk shit out of their ass.. all I know is that the dynos I saw at JBA Racing (San Diego) on a stock '03 were ~370hp.

However, keep in mind that the Ford production line for '03 Cobras was shut down and re-tooled after the 1st run of cars (I never did hear what the problem was but I know it happened because I was wait-listed for the second production run). It's likely that the performance was modifed (either up or down).

Odd. From what dyno charts I could find of stock 2003's, I could not find one much over 360hp.
I am not 100% sure, but I believe they stopped production because of quality issues with the heads?
We were actually looking at Cobras at an SVT dealer yesterday. We are going to be buying a Lightning.

BradShaw · 09-09-2003, 09:10 AM

E55 is a sweet ride. I was all set to get one, until I saw how small they actually are. Car is actually as fast my Ferrari.

com · 09-09-2003, 09:20 AM

I have 30 ferraris!

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