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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-08-2003 09:10 PM

Hey I know, install your own PPV scripts and call the video companies:)

Set up aint so tough.

Far-L 09-08-2003 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


i can admit when I made a mistake - I wrote down the wrong name. Sorry about that, didn't mean to include you.

I offer you a PUBLIC apology

Graciously accepted. Everyone makes mistakes. I apologize for my harsh reaction.

SleazyDream 09-08-2003 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L


Graciously accepted. Everyone makes mistakes. I apologize for my harsh reaction.

you had a right to a harsh reaction - i made a mistake

:thumbsup

Zoe 09-08-2003 11:32 PM

Errrr.............our new program www.cseliveshows.com pays 40% Is that high enough?

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Mutt 09-08-2003 11:40 PM

20% is fair, since nobody seems to be beating it. as Alien says it's not exactly rocket science to set up PPV, go make the same deals with the video studios and pay webmasters 30% and you might become king of the PPV heap.

i'm amazed how they got so many studios involved, pretty good achievment. i remember when AEBN was a live strip club feed site with probably 5 members.

Gamelink pays what % on PPV streaming?

NastyJack 09-08-2003 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average
I think you will find people would push AEBN products harder if you bumped it to say 25%-30%.

Finally someone said it!
People would push AEBN if they paid more.

Who here would sign up to push a site that only
pays you 20% of sales?

Again, you have to sale $500.00 worth of smut to earn
$100.00 - that's allot of porn guys.

Anyway, I've been pushing them for a few years and
I think it's time to move on.

There a good bunch of people but there just not paying
enough.

imJason 09-09-2003 12:22 AM

hey dude, its bottom line money that matters,

and the relationships you build with your sponsors,

yes 20% is lower than say a 50/50 program, so its less money up front, but consider this,

largest content database on the web, best quality, pay per view billing options, so no chargebacksj,

so think diversification from current visa tensions, this is NOT a recurring model,

also understand, that they are giving a high quality co branded theater, and they sell awesome plug in and so on,

and they do very well, so if the market demanded 30% or more they would have to adapt, but I think they do fine the way they are,

you guys who are kncking them really dont have any buisness telling them how to run there business,

very few programs have full length full screen, jenna jameson videos, which is probably the most in demand content on the web,

and keep in mind there business model requires that they pay the producer a royalty, so the content owner gets a cut ,the processors get a cut and they get a cut, with you, so its a 4 way battle, everyone wants to get the biggest %,

maybe you should bitch less and maybe work on your sals reps at aebn for a raise,???

PS here are my aebn stats, proof they that are not full of shit, notice the numbers go up, not down,

http://jasonangell.com/aebn.jpg

CoolE 09-09-2003 12:36 AM

I for one am very happy with AEBN and my 20%. I do very well with them thank you very much.

sexeducation 09-09-2003 12:41 AM

I've got my $750 buck saved up for my ePASSPORTe.com account and intend to use AEBN.com for their "educational" feeds.

I've not heard or read anything negative about them.
So far anyways ...

They charge the price they do because it works.

NastyJack 09-09-2003 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imJason
http://jasonangell.com/aebn.jpg
Nice photoshop job there!

If you expect me to believe that your making that
kind of money your out of your fucking mind.

Prove it - post your URLs.

Anyone can edit images so prove it.

imJason 09-09-2003 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NastyJack


Nice photoshop job there!

lol,

1. you dont beleive those numbers are real? you have low expectations man, those numbers are very real, and many other sites push similar and even much higher numbers with aebn,

2. you cant make money with 20%, boohoo,

:321GFY

stocktrader23 09-09-2003 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NastyJack


Nice photoshop job there!

If you expect me to believe that your making that
kind of money your out of your fucking mind.

Prove it - post your URLs.

Anyone can edit images so prove it.


:1orglaugh

Dear NastyJack,

Regardless of what you may think you do not rule the internet in traffic. There are people with more traffic that make more money than you. Even YOU should realize that much.

imJason 09-09-2003 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NastyJack


Nice photoshop job there!

If you expect me to believe that your making that
kind of money your out of your fucking mind.

Prove it - post your URLs.

Anyone can edit images so prove it.

dude, you cant be serious,

aebn is my # 3 sponsor? what kinda money you think people are making in this world? in this industry?

I do 6 figures, many people in this industry do 6 figures

a few peeps are doing 7 .


anways Ill humor you,

my aebn site is

vidsondemand.com

my main site is vidsvidsvids.com

number #16 on sextracker, ranks.sextracker.com

now what you got to say?

NastyJack 09-09-2003 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imJason


lol,

1. you dont beleive those numbers are real? you have low expectations man, those numbers are very real, and many other sites push similar and even much higher numbers with aebn,

2. you cant make money with 20%, boohoo,

:321GFY

No I don't beleive you - post your links so we can see
the kind of sites you have that are making all this money
and we'll see.

Mind you I'm not being rude with you, I'm telling you up
front that I don't beleive you.

It's a photoshop job if you ask me.

Post your links.

imJason 09-09-2003 01:16 AM

way ahead of you, look up, or for gods sake, see sig

NastyJack 09-09-2003 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imJason
anways Ill humor you,

my aebn site is

vidsondemand.com

my main site is vidsvidsvids.com

number #16 on sextracker, ranks.sextracker.com

now what you got to say?

Congratulations... My hat's off to yea!

imJason 09-09-2003 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NastyJack


Congratulations... My hat's off to yea!

so you admit not photoshop???

NastyJack 09-09-2003 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imJason


so you admit not photoshop???

I see you have a shit load of traffic but I can't bring
myself to believe anyone is making that kind of money
with AEBN - sorry I just can't do it.

It's just to fantastic! :Graucho

Matt_WildCash 09-09-2003 01:32 AM

Mate AEBN have 60+ staff, you think there not making HUGE fucking money??? Get a life, there are millions being made every month by a huge number of webmasters. Your small fry, and I totally agree, 20% is fine considering that nobody can match it right now

NastyJack 09-09-2003 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Driven
Mate AEBN have 60+ staff, you think there not making HUGE fucking money??? Get a life, there are millions being made every month by a huge number of webmasters. Your small fry, and I totally agree, 20% is fine considering that nobody can match it right now
I'm not goint to take this any further cause it's turning ugly but
if there doing so good they could offer us small fries a better deal.

20% is a joke.

Good night...

Joe Average 09-09-2003 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imJason
way ahead of you, look up, or for gods sake, see sig
Congratulations on your AEBN stats.

If you don't mind my asking, how many members do you need to generate that kind of monthy revenue?

Wade 09-09-2003 03:46 AM

AEBN rocks, 20% is fair, and im sure if you were doing any sort of decent volume you could do a deal for more %. AEBN is great in so many ways.

Seriously why should they raise it anyway? If you dont like it then dont promote it. Same for any sponsor! If you think you can do better, build your own ;p

imJason 09-09-2003 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wade
AEBN rocks, 20% is fair, and im sure if you were doing any sort of decent volume you could do a deal for more %. AEBN is great in so many ways.

Seriously why should they raise it anyway? If you dont like it then dont promote it. Same for any sponsor! If you think you can do better, build your own ;p

hey dude, lonf time no speak,

how far we have come huh???

imJason 09-09-2003 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Average


Congratulations on your AEBN stats.

If you don't mind my asking, how many members do you need to generate that kind of monthy revenue?

like 200 free joins a month, keeps it going,

Meeyatch 09-09-2003 06:28 AM

Jason could'nt use photoshop if he tried ... lol

Those ARE real numbers folks.

Sure you may not see a huge check in the beginning. But notice how payout goes up constantly...this is due to return users that come back to shop in the PPV theatre time and time again.

Jason sends the same traffic every month and makes more $$$ .. go figure.

Here's an idea .... go look around and find another solution to make money if you don't like our product.

Obviously, you have no earthly idea how much time, money, hard-work, and dedication it takes to build a good PPV product.

hmmmm .... maybe we can pay you more if we let our customers down and give them a crappy service

Erin 09-09-2003 06:59 AM

This has been a quite interesting read.

Thanks to those who see the Real Value of AEBN--sorry to those who don't.

I wish the best of luck to you.
Erin

:2 cents:

JoeA 09-09-2003 07:02 AM

I'm negotiating a deal with AEBN now to supply them with Indian video content that I shoot...

I can't say what my % is from direct sales from my own sites but.. I will get less from affiliate sales but with 17,000 affiliates I'm not moaning.

They have very high costs and so this must be taken in to consideration.. 20% for being an affiliate isn't too bad and if you know how to sell their programme like any other.. You should be earning decent $$$ easily.

Bishop 09-09-2003 07:16 AM

As someone who has been around for five years and who has been with AEBN now for like 2-3 months - 20% is a fair payout.

I've seen the numbers on this side of the fence. Webmasters are getting a fair shake with AEBN.

AllisonWonderland 09-10-2003 05:34 PM

http://www.qgiftsonline.com/store/me...t%20header.jpg

Just for you, Erin :winkwink:

Dravyk 09-10-2003 05:40 PM

The only joke here is Nasty Jack who has not a single freaking clue about business. You don't get it, you never will, and your old fry station misses you terribly.

Bishop, keep up the good work!

JDog 09-10-2003 05:45 PM

www.nscash.com <- they pay 60%/60% for lifetime of the membership!

jDoG

chris71 09-10-2003 06:26 PM

Well, as a *consumer* of AEBN.NET, I can tell you, their product *kicks* ass.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

I've been an affiliate webmaster for about 4 years, and sure, I've balked at the 20% at first. Mike sent an email to me a few years back when they were a *lot* smaller than they are now. Their product based continues to grow, adding more and more niches and videos and *options* of how you want to purchase time/rentals.

Hell, every time I need to seriously jack off for 10 minutes, I know *exactly* where to go. pornpayperview.com, thank you very much. And save for a few network gliches (usually because of a dsl issue on MY end), I've never been happier as a consumer. So happy that I definitely need to find a way to promote them more as I haven't made a cent off them yet (that's because of so many projects, so little time I'm afraid).

I'm not sure AEBN fits into my business model. I'll have to take a serious look at introducing their free clips to on some of my toplists.

It never ceases to amaze me why people complain about payouts when there's a whack of options out there for you. Complain on GFY when you don't get paid in a timely manner by your sponsors. That's one thing.

Otherwise, quit your bitchin' and find a better way to make money, quit the program you're bitchin' about and join a new one, or try selling personals or some other "mainstream" program that pays only per lead or hell, by an amazon affiliate for 5-15%.

*yawn*

AEBN. this webmaster consumer says you're one class act
:thumbsup

Keep it up.

Chris

xxxjay 09-10-2003 06:36 PM

i never could make any money with them

Plat 09-13-2003 08:57 PM

:glugglug

Meeyatch 10-10-2003 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chris71
Well, as a *consumer* of AEBN.NET, I can tell you, their product *kicks* ass.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

I've been an affiliate webmaster for about 4 years, and sure, I've balked at the 20% at first. Mike sent an email to me a few years back when they were a *lot* smaller than they are now. Their product based continues to grow, adding more and more niches and videos and *options* of how you want to purchase time/rentals.

Hell, every time I need to seriously jack off for 10 minutes, I know *exactly* where to go. pornpayperview.com, thank you very much. And save for a few network gliches (usually because of a dsl issue on MY end), I've never been happier as a consumer. So happy that I definitely need to find a way to promote them more as I haven't made a cent off them yet (that's because of so many projects, so little time I'm afraid).

I'm not sure AEBN fits into my business model. I'll have to take a serious look at introducing their free clips to on some of my toplists.

It never ceases to amaze me why people complain about payouts when there's a whack of options out there for you. Complain on GFY when you don't get paid in a timely manner by your sponsors. That's one thing.

Otherwise, quit your bitchin' and find a better way to make money, quit the program you're bitchin' about and join a new one, or try selling personals or some other "mainstream" program that pays only per lead or hell, by an amazon affiliate for 5-15%.

*yawn*

AEBN. this webmaster consumer says you're one class act
:thumbsup

Keep it up.

Chris


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sexyclicks 10-10-2003 09:12 AM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

webgurl 10-10-2003 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imJason
way ahead of you, look up, or for gods sake, see sig
Hey ImJason :thumbsup

EZRhino 10-10-2003 09:23 AM

Do it yourself

Twisted Dollar 10-10-2003 10:23 AM

We have been with good old AEBN for years now ... We use all there consoles, galleries, and paysite feeds... The best thing is we make more money every month. You can also pick your phone up at any time and get the help you need. As far as I'm concerned they are one of the best sponsers around .... The members come back and buy more time because they keep there content fresh ... If you can't make money with ZERO overhead you may be in the wrong buisness !!! AEBN makes it easy for everyone to bank .... Shit I still make 500$ - 600 $ bucks a month off people I refered 2 years ago at 5%..... :thumbsup

Matrix 10-10-2003 10:31 AM

Thanks Fabian C. I heard Urentdvds.com converts like crazy, it's about time to try it.

:thumbsup


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