NastyJack

You guys have been paying 20% of sales for years now so when are you going to start paying us 50%?

I have to sale $500.00 with of smut to earn $100.00 and I think it's time you guys start giving us a bigger cut.

Do what you have to but for goodness sake 20% of sales is a fuck'n joke!

Sure you pay on time and you have fantastic content but damn guys - 20% - I'm sure you could do much better then that.

jimmyf

don't use them

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Snake Doctor

That's a different business model than a regular paysite.
I'm pretty sure their content providers take a pretty hefty % per rental.

The only other site I know of that offers something similar is dreamzotic, they pay 30%.

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SykkBoy

Send more traffic and you could probably negotiate yourself a better deal....

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Far-L

I disagree.

You are a referrer and don't have any costs of production and distribution. Your overhead is nil. Bandwidth zilch. Effort, nada.

Justify why you should make 20% and not just 15% like a marketer in any other industry?

Why should they do all the work and give you 50%?

What effort do you really make to "earn" a sale? Use their graphics, their content, their system, etc.?

What am I missing here?

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NastyJack

Haha... The reason there only paying out 20% is because there
fuck'n cheap. I could ask for more until I'm blue in the face, it's
not going to help.

These guys have been making a killing for years with there bullshit 20% - it's time to pass the buck!

NastyJack

Lol... Get your 20% - www.aebn.com -

NastyJack

Okay, 50% would be to high but 20% is by far to little.
What I'm trying to say here is that I think it's time for them
to give us a bigger cut. It doesn't have to be 50% but I
figure that it should at least be around 30%!

If you feel otherwise sign up for your 20% - www.aebn.com

It's bullshit!

justsexxx

Well what is wrong with it?

They payout 20% and you know it...Don't like it, don't use them...

Or do you like

We pay you 50% and shave 30%?

Andre

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Sly_RJ

And how exactly do you know they've been making a killing? You know their overhead?

Watching affiliates bitch about sponsors payouts is getting real old. Try building something with substance, you'll see how much money you have to stick in and maybe change your tune.

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Ross

I agree. Make them want your traffic. Make more signups and they will pay you more to keep you there!

Lonny

pe cash pays out 35%.
I droped aebn along time ago.

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NastyJack

Who here would sign up for an affiliate program that only pays out 20%? Remember, you have to sale $500.00 to earn $100.00

I understand that they have fantastic content and they always pay on time but again - 20% is a fuck'n joke!

basschick

aebn has to pay the owners of the movies their percentage, then they pay the bandwidth as well. paysites lease the content and the bandwidth is included in the lease price or else they own the content and only pay bandwidth.

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dirtyone

I know I am not the greatest adult webmaster here... or anywhere for that matter but am I missing something? Thier not paying out enough (for you) so you come here an complain about it? Why not drop them a get another sponsor?

Not enough drama points maybe?

Lonny

you may not like it butheres one
http://8ish.inadult.com/ they pay
15% thou.
Just another bookmark of mine

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JMM

You all should be ashamed of yourselves for not recognizing his post for what it is.

Duh.

Especially you Far-L

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Joe Average

So, is anyone making a fortune with AEBN?

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besterman

I really disagree with this assessment. Referrer overhead is not nil, in fact, far from it.

Affiliates are business partners that have a very important role to play in an adult site's business plan. Unless the site is well-capitalized and has the expertise to market on it's own, affiliates provide a very valuable service, often investing their own funds and having their own distribution overhead...

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NastyJack

At 20% no one is getting rich off of AEBN.
I did however ask allot of people how they where doing
and as it turned out I'm making more money with AEBN then anyone I spoke with.

The problem here is that they've been paying us 20% for
years now so it's time they start paying us a little more.

30% would be okay since they do have fantastic content
and what have you but this 20% is just not worth it - it's a
fuck'n joke.

They have the money - there just to cheap to pass the buck!

rockbear

This is why I don't use them anymore.. 20% it's a joke.

beemk

if they have people like you still promoting me for years at 20%... why would they raise the payout?

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Joe Average

I DO agree that 30% would be a more appropriate payout percentage.

Anyone from AEBN have a comment?

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Matt_WildCash

I'd say they negociated a 50% rate or something with the video studios. I bet the studio's are a pain in the ass to deal with when doing this and they wouldn't want to give out to much to AEBN. I'd say if they paid you 50% they'd make a big fat loss.

FetishTom

Yeah ok 20% sucks but I do like them and what the hell its a cheap filler on some top lists we run and other places - oh and just checked my stats and made a whole $12 this evening!

Plat

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NastyJack............... 20%

I'll tell you what. I'll give you 50% ONLY if you cover the bandwidth costs for everything we host for you. Free clips, graphics, whatever.

If you think we're so bad, then drop us, but honestly, look at it.

We have to pay the bandwidth, hosting, etc... then pay out the manuf. and then pay the affiliates.

Sure we could offer 50% but that would put US in the negatives... and i mean, come on... we're a buisness.... we need to make money just like you do.

So yeah, 20% may be low.... but if you do the math, it's better than anyone else that's offering the same services.......

that's my

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Doctor Dre

Deal with him for 25 % :P lol

Joe Average

Fair enough. You have a lot of expenses, that is easy to understand. However, I think you will find people would push AEBN products harder if you bumped it to say 25%-30%.

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SleazyDream

NastyJack and Far-L

who the fuck are you to tell someone else, and a successful someone else at that, how to run their business.


fucking idiot

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Plat

He's just giving his input, which is cool......

I just don't think a lot of people understand the overhead involved in what we're doing. hell, i don't understand it.

but, whatever. 20% has always been the rule and I don't see it changing..........

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Far-L

Please tell me what expense the referring webmaster has when they are including AEBN in their member's area?

There is no production cost, ie models to pay, videos to encode, editing, etc. and there is no post production in adding it to a site, setting up processing or what have you.

This is not the same referral relationship a webmaster has that is using galleries to send traffic to a sponsor and has to pay for bw, make galleries. get traffic or whatever.

The webmaster has precious little to do to make money off of a pay per view product like AEBN. That is why they should not get the same percentage of the referral relationship that you are referring to, imo.

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Far-L

Where do you think I am telling anyone how to run there business?

Maybe you should read what I wrote again or just go back to posting the nonsense you typically post.

I merely asked for Nasty Jack to justify his asking for a better percentage and I gave reasons why I thought the percentage was fair.

If you can't handle that professionally, which obviously Nasty Jack had the courteousy to do in a matter of discussion between us and which does not concern you in the least... then....

Go fuck yourself.

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SleazyDream

i can admit when I made a mistake - I wrote down the wrong name. Sorry about that, didn't mean to include you.

I offer you a PUBLIC apology

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Honeyslut

and you can offer them 60% of your paysite fees and they still think they are getting ripped off

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If you don't like the 20% why did you signup

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Far-L

Graciously accepted. Everyone makes mistakes. I apologize for my harsh reaction.

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SleazyDream

you had a right to a harsh reaction - i made a mistake

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Zoe

Errrr.............our new program www.cseliveshows.com pays 40% Is that high enough?

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Mutt

20% is fair, since nobody seems to be beating it. as Alien says it's not exactly rocket science to set up PPV, go make the same deals with the video studios and pay webmasters 30% and you might become king of the PPV heap.

i'm amazed how they got so many studios involved, pretty good achievment. i remember when AEBN was a live strip club feed site with probably 5 members.

Gamelink pays what % on PPV streaming?

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NastyJack

Finally someone said it!
People would push AEBN if they paid more.

Who here would sign up to push a site that only
pays you 20% of sales?

Again, you have to sale $500.00 worth of smut to earn
$100.00 - that's allot of porn guys.

Anyway, I've been pushing them for a few years and
I think it's time to move on.

There a good bunch of people but there just not paying
enough.

imJason

hey dude, its bottom line money that matters,

and the relationships you build with your sponsors,

yes 20% is lower than say a 50/50 program, so its less money up front, but consider this,

largest content database on the web, best quality, pay per view billing options, so no chargebacksj,

so think diversification from current visa tensions, this is NOT a recurring model,

also understand, that they are giving a high quality co branded theater, and they sell awesome plug in and so on,

and they do very well, so if the market demanded 30% or more they would have to adapt, but I think they do fine the way they are,

you guys who are kncking them really dont have any buisness telling them how to run there business,

very few programs have full length full screen, jenna jameson videos, which is probably the most in demand content on the web,

and keep in mind there business model requires that they pay the producer a royalty, so the content owner gets a cut ,the processors get a cut and they get a cut, with you, so its a 4 way battle, everyone wants to get the biggest %,

maybe you should bitch less and maybe work on your sals reps at aebn for a raise,???

PS here are my aebn stats, proof they that are not full of shit, notice the numbers go up, not down,

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CoolE

I for one am very happy with AEBN and my 20%. I do very well with them thank you very much.

sexeducation

I've got my $750 buck saved up for my ePASSPORTe.com account and intend to use AEBN.com for their "educational" feeds.

I've not heard or read anything negative about them.
So far anyways ...

They charge the price they do because it works.

NastyJack

Nice photoshop job there!

If you expect me to believe that your making that
kind of money your out of your fucking mind.

Prove it - post your URLs.

Anyone can edit images so prove it.