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Old 09-02-2003, 01:01 PM   #1
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trailers on reality sites

It seems that trailers on reality sites are getting longer. The sufer does not even have to signup he can just jerk off to the free preview clips.
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:04 PM   #2
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It seems that trailers on reality sites are getting longer. The sufer does not even have to signup he can just jerk off to the free preview clips.
bump, I agree... same thing on tgps. Some of these clips are 50-60 sec's
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:07 PM   #3
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Good point, and for the most part, I agree. A surfer these days has almost no reason to join when they can see basically the meat of the action for that episode in that trailer!
I'm all for making trailers "teasers", that's the way they should be IMHO. Fast snippets of action, loud music, and NO cumshot...
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:08 PM   #4
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:09 PM   #5
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I can cum 3 times in a good 60 second trailer.
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:11 PM   #6
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Look i tried the trailer thing and then tried a single compbo sample clip (no way someone jerkin to it) and in my case im doing weay better with the combo clip.
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:16 PM   #7
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It seems that trailers on reality sites are getting longer. The sufer does not even have to signup he can just jerk off to the free preview clips.
BD, ya damned mindreader! I just spent the last hour or so signing up at some new sponsors. Took several different video tours of various movie/reality paysites and thought the same exact thing: "Damn, the surfers are going to get-off before they ever see a join page".

Insane!! Might be time for some paysite owners to actual start paying attention to what they tell their newbie webmasters!
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:29 PM   #8
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We agree. Check out our trailers on ClubFlashers From illCash
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:42 PM   #9
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I agree. I had the trailers to about 20-30 seconds on our new site www.bigmouthfuls.com. Just enough to hook them hard.
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Old 09-02-2003, 01:45 PM   #10
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people.. .people... people.. read this:

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Old 09-02-2003, 01:48 PM   #11
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:09 PM   #12
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Agreed.

Need to bear in mind we are selling ... not giving away porn!
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:11 PM   #13
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i'm going to redesign my paysite :-)
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:11 PM   #14
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:13 PM   #15
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:25 PM   #16
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Thanks for the article Redshoe...
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:48 PM   #17
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:51 PM   #18
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We agree. Check out our trailers on ClubFlashers From illCash

We had trailers at first and noticed that users were just watching them ...and not buying ..

We switched to no trailers and conversions increased 5-10 fold..


The more you give for free the less they are interested in buying .


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Old 09-02-2003, 02:53 PM   #19
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i dont why some of the larger programs out there give away the trailers with the entire cumshot at the end ... defeats the entire purpose of the trailers which are supposed to be teasers to get the surfers to sign up.
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:56 PM   #20
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my best numbers come form a site that I cannot find a "join here" button anywhere and they have tons of free content. So if it works for them...
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Old 09-02-2003, 02:57 PM   #21
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Redshoe... Bring back the running sig.


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Old 09-02-2003, 02:57 PM   #22
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trailers should not be more than 15 secs.
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Old 09-02-2003, 03:21 PM   #23
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i dont why some of the larger programs out there give away the trailers with the entire cumshot at the end ... defeats the entire purpose of the trailers which are supposed to be teasers to get the surfers to sign up.
Two different views on this: Why should we "give away" the cumshot? The trailer should be able to tease the surfer enough well before the cumshot. But I can see your point of view...
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Old 09-02-2003, 03:23 PM   #24
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Less is more.

Also, unless the site is a blowjob or facial site, keep the tour as softcore as possible.
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Old 09-02-2003, 03:30 PM   #25
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Redshoe... that's some good shit right there.
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Old 09-02-2003, 03:32 PM   #26
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Old 09-02-2003, 03:38 PM   #27
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how about this trailer? http://www.povporn.com/media/pov_intro_32_logo.wmv

see the hook in the end?
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Old 09-02-2003, 05:22 PM   #28
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Thats a kick ass trailer, and if your suing it make sure its the only one they can view.

The only thing id chage is the bitrate settings.
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Old 09-02-2003, 05:24 PM   #29
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how about this trailer? http://www.povporn.com/media/pov_intro_32_logo.wmv

see the hook in the end?
awesome. very good.
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Old 09-02-2003, 05:43 PM   #30
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i dont why some of the larger programs out there give away the trailers with the entire cumshot at the end ... defeats the entire purpose of the trailers which are supposed to be teasers to get the surfers to sign up.
Exactly why show the cumshot that should be the part that you want people to pay for.You might as well got to a surfers house grab his cock and start jerking off for him
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Old 09-02-2003, 09:36 PM   #31
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I agree some of these trailers I see seem way too long. I kept my trailers to 30 secs. and tried to show only the very beginning of the cumshot as a tease before the clip ends.
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Old 09-02-2003, 11:00 PM   #32
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This is something that we have struggled with on both:

http://www.GloryHoleGirlz.com
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http://www.CrackWhoreConfessions.com

The videos in the members area are about 30 min long.
We show about 60-90 seconds for the promo...
I try to keep the hardcore stuff to a bare minimum in the promo.

Let me know what you think? should they be shorter? are they about right? will people be intriqued enough to buy or just click on every free video?

Great Thread, BTW
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Old 09-03-2003, 12:18 AM   #33
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i agree everyone is giving away 2 much

i remember when you would go to a paysite and get a 1 20 sec clip tops, it wasent that long ago
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Old 09-03-2003, 12:49 AM   #34
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i agree everyone is giving away 2 much

i remember when you would go to a paysite and get a 1 20 sec clip tops, it wasent that long ago
I remember when downloading a 10 second clip took 6 minutes, and it was crappy as hell.

I remember downloading slideshows on a 14.4k

I'd almost like to set up a little shit pc with a 14.4K just to show the kids what I used to go thru. Damn kids and their MTV generation.
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Old 09-03-2003, 03:03 AM   #35
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I use 20 sec clips... 30 - 45 sec on my conetnt sites for webmasters to see but not general public
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Old 09-03-2003, 05:32 AM   #36
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This is something that we have struggled with on both:

http://www.GloryHoleGirlz.com
and
http://www.CrackWhoreConfessions.com

The videos in the members area are about 30 min long.
We show about 60-90 seconds for the promo...
I try to keep the hardcore stuff to a bare minimum in the promo.

Let me know what you think? should they be shorter? are they about right? will people be intriqued enough to buy or just click on every free video?

Great Thread, BTW

Nice crackhead site.Those girls seem like real crack heads
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