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dwesley1 · 08-30-2003, 11:07 AM

I was referred to this guy because he apparently was the best of the best in the adult biz....here we go:

Chris Wilson: I heard you were looking for a consultant or something for some sites you have. Hit me up when u have some time and maybe we can work something out ?

Me: Chris, sounds good please let me know your rates?

Chris Wilson: I usually charge companies 500.00/month for consultation fees, but if that is out of your budget I can take 300.00/month and some traffic from your site. Such as placing some of my galleries and such..

It would be a per month thing so no contract or anything. If you don't want advice for a month or so no problem.

Me:

Sounds interesting you come highly recommended from Don, and would like to get started doing this...how do I go about sending payment? Credit card money order
paypal?

Chris:
Well I will be honest w/ you. There are two basic ways to so it, you can put in loads of money or loads of time. It won't happen overnight unless you are willing to spend a small fortune (10k or so) So what you have to substitute money for is time.

Yes having a site already helps but you still need to make it work for you, so that takes time. I wish I could a better number as in sales or money but I can't. To many variables. I can assure you it will be more than you have now though =)

Paypal is fine or money order is ok too. Whatever you prefer. Hit me up tomorrow and we can work it out. I will give you AIM and ICQ handles so you can reach me.

Me: So I send payment for $300.00 and a couple of days later, and review of my sites I get:

Chris:

As a consultant I will tell you that you are going to run into a long
hard road with this site if you expect to just makes sales overnight. I am going to revise my opinion a little and say that with your current ability's as they are and the current assets you have in this industry, the best advice I can give you would to be sell. This advice only comes as a straight business decision with nothing personal involved.

This only after he reviewed my sites, my abilitites beforehand and taking my MF money!!!!!...as he said "no need to be a network admin"

Stay away from this crooked, scamming bitch:

Chris Wilson
[email protected]

polish_aristocrat · 08-30-2003, 11:14 AM

Do you thin that if someone is "the best in the industry", he will tell you his secrets for $300 per month ?

NoCarrier · 08-30-2003, 11:21 AM

Man, you need to learn how to stay away from that kind of scam. Paypal me 250$ now and I will tell you how.

robfantasy · 08-30-2003, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dwesley1
I was referred to this guy because he apparently was the best of the best in the adult biz....here we go:

Chris Wilson: I heard you were looking for a consultant or something for some sites you have. Hit me up when u have some time and maybe we can work something out ?

Me: Chris, sounds good please let me know your rates?

Chris Wilson: I usually charge companies 500.00/month for consultation fees, but if that is out of your budget I can take 300.00/month and some traffic from your site. Such as placing some of my galleries and such..

It would be a per month thing so no contract or anything. If you don't want advice for a month or so no problem.

Me:

Sounds interesting you come highly recommended from Don, and would like to get started doing this...how do I go about sending payment? Credit card money order
paypal?

Chris:
Well I will be honest w/ you. There are two basic ways to so it, you can put in loads of money or loads of time. It won't happen overnight unless you are willing to spend a small fortune (10k or so) So what you have to substitute money for is time.

Yes having a site already helps but you still need to make it work for you, so that takes time. I wish I could a better number as in sales or money but I can't. To many variables. I can assure you it will be more than you have now though =)

Paypal is fine or money order is ok too. Whatever you prefer. Hit me up tomorrow and we can work it out. I will give you AIM and ICQ handles so you can reach me.

Me: So I send payment for $300.00 and a couple of days later, and review of my sites I get:

Chris:

As a consultant I will tell you that you are going to run into a long
hard road with this site if you expect to just makes sales overnight. I am going to revise my opinion a little and say that with your current ability's as they are and the current assets you have in this industry, the best advice I can give you would to be sell. This advice only comes as a straight business decision with nothing personal involved.

This only after he reviewed my sites, my abilitites beforehand and taking my MF money!!!!!...as he said "no need to be a network admin"

Stay away from this crooked, scamming bitch:

Chris Wilson
[email protected]

whats your site?

spamofon · 08-30-2003, 11:22 AM

hahahahahaha i would be able to give you an advise like that

sell the site bob!!

Libertine · 08-30-2003, 11:24 AM

If you post the urls of your sites, I'll tell you if he was right or not for free

AWC · 08-30-2003, 11:24 AM

take his advice...

Why · 08-30-2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Man, you need to learn how to stay away from that kind of scam. Paypal me 250$ now and I will tell you how.

fuck this guy, ill do it for $240.

Ic3m4nZ · 08-30-2003, 11:30 AM

What a lamer.

Chaldoray · 08-30-2003, 11:33 AM

Your stupid for listening to him... What the fuck would you want advice for? Go read and learn very simple...

dwesley1 · 08-30-2003, 11:54 AM

does anybody know of this guy in the biz?

sites are analvalley.net
megacock.net
stickyhq.com

amph · 08-30-2003, 12:17 PM

Oh my

Send me $200 and i tell you how to nail the guy

robfantasy · 08-30-2003, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dwesley1
does anybody know of this guy in the biz?

sites are analvalley.net
megacock.net
stickyhq.com

he gave you good advice. why are you complaining? here is some more advice, use blue design studios or envisionext to design your tour.

ok now where do i send the bill to?

Libertine · 08-30-2003, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dwesley1
does anybody know of this guy in the biz?

sites are analvalley.net
megacock.net
stickyhq.com

His advice was pretty insightful, I'm afraid. stickyhq.com doesn't work, and the other two are nothing more than fpa's with free galleries to screw up conversion ratios.

swami · 08-30-2003, 02:52 PM

Quote:

sites are analvalley.net

Your sites definitely need some work and some guidance which he could have given for the $300 he got.
I dont know where you get your traffic from but if you are aiming for search engines you better read up on links,Dmoz,PR and keyword text.
Goog Luck.

KRL · 08-30-2003, 03:04 PM

Consulting is always profitable.

Plan9 · 08-30-2003, 03:21 PM

Damn, next time, come to me - I'll tell you your sites suck for free. Seriously though, you paid this guy 300 bucks to review a TGP and two FPA's?

Unless Im missing something here...

stocktrader23 · 08-30-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

Consulting is always profitable.

And these guys are acting like this isn't the norm. True for several k you can get pretty graphs, charts, and a report but "sell your sites" doesn't really require that much info.

idle · 08-30-2003, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dwesley1

sites are analvalley.net
megacock.net
stickyhq.com

stickyhq doesn't work.

analvalley has a blatant spelling mistake on the front page, and it and megacock are riddled with grammatical errors.

I'm ignoring the fact that they suck because everybody's already told you that. I'm not judging that.

first thing I would do is hire somebody who knows what marketing is who can write you some good copy.

then I would get someone who knows english to go over that copy.

I think that $300 was well spent. It was to discourage you from shelling out thousands for these sites which will result in you losing even more money.

but I'm a n00b, so what do I know?

Mutt · 08-30-2003, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dwesley1

Chris Wilson: I usually charge companies 500.00/month for consultation fees, but if that is out of your budget I can take 300.00/month and some traffic from your site. Such as placing some of my galleries and such..

chris wilson = xanax

he's registered member on GFY and here are the very originally named DNS servers he's hosted on

NS1.WHYDONTYOUGFY.COM 216.67.250.147
NS2.WHYDONTYOUGFY.COM 216.67.250.148

08-30-2003, 11:07 AM	#1
dwesley1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10	stay away from this asshole!!! I was referred to this guy because he apparently was the best of the best in the adult biz....here we go: Chris Wilson: I heard you were looking for a consultant or something for some sites you have. Hit me up when u have some time and maybe we can work something out ? Me: Chris, sounds good please let me know your rates? Chris Wilson: I usually charge companies 500.00/month for consultation fees, but if that is out of your budget I can take 300.00/month and some traffic from your site. Such as placing some of my galleries and such.. It would be a per month thing so no contract or anything. If you don't want advice for a month or so no problem. Me: Sounds interesting you come highly recommended from Don, and would like to get started doing this...how do I go about sending payment? Credit card money order paypal? Chris: Well I will be honest w/ you. There are two basic ways to so it, you can put in loads of money or loads of time. It won't happen overnight unless you are willing to spend a small fortune (10k or so) So what you have to substitute money for is time. Yes having a site already helps but you still need to make it work for you, so that takes time. I wish I could a better number as in sales or money but I can't. To many variables. I can assure you it will be more than you have now though =) Paypal is fine or money order is ok too. Whatever you prefer. Hit me up tomorrow and we can work it out. I will give you AIM and ICQ handles so you can reach me. Me: So I send payment for $300.00 and a couple of days later, and review of my sites I get: Chris: As a consultant I will tell you that you are going to run into a long hard road with this site if you expect to just makes sales overnight. I am going to revise my opinion a little and say that with your current ability's as they are and the current assets you have in this industry, the best advice I can give you would to be sell. This advice only comes as a straight business decision with nothing personal involved. This only after he reviewed my sites, my abilitites beforehand and taking my MF money!!!!!...as he said "no need to be a network admin" Stay away from this crooked, scamming bitch: Chris Wilson [email protected] __________________ Dan Wesley

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08-30-2003, 11:54 AM	#11
dwesley1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10	does anybody know of this guy in the biz? sites are analvalley.net megacock.net stickyhq.com __________________ Dan Wesley

08-30-2003, 11:22 AM	#5
spamofon Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,999	hahahahahaha i would be able to give you an advise like that sell the site bob!!

08-30-2003, 11:24 AM	#7
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08-30-2003, 11:30 AM	#9
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08-30-2003, 11:33 AM	#10
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08-30-2003, 12:17 PM	#12
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08-30-2003, 03:21 PM	#17
Plan9 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,801	Damn, next time, come to me - I'll tell you your sites suck for free. Seriously though, you paid this guy 300 bucks to review a TGP and two FPA's? Unless Im missing something here...